Re: Kerberos keytab

2008-11-10 Thread Da Rock

On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 07:18 -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote:
 Does anyone know what is the actual purpose of the Kerberos krb5.keytab
 file?
 
  
 
  I have a freebsd 7 configured to authenticate users via Kerberos (both
 apache and ssh).
 
  
 
 Although the authentication between apache and browser is still basic and
 between the ssh client and server is still keyboard interactive. FreeBSD
 validates the account in the background using Kerberos to AD. 

Actually from my understanding (which may very well be basic, but I have
done some very extensive research) browser auth with kerberos and apache
may be possible on firefox 2 and IE6. The older browsers are a dead
loss, but it will fallback gracefully I've read. One thing that makes
this possible is navigating to about:config in firefox and updating
negotiate uri's. In IE6 you don't need to do anything, but that does
increase the security risk (ergo the firefox method of negotiate).

The keytab file (again, only from my understanding) contains the current
keys in use mapped to the users. These change as per the kerberos ttl
settings for tickets.

Check the kerberos site for further, more accurate info, and run a
google search for browser kerberos auth with apache. You do need the
right module for apache to achieve this though- mod_auth_kerb. Some only
offer a link between apache and kdc with base64 encryption.

I'm pretty sure of my facts here, but I'll appreciate a correction of my
comments.

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Re: Kerberos keytab

2008-11-10 Thread Mel
On Monday 10 November 2008 13:53:41 Da Rock wrote:


 Check the kerberos site for further, more accurate info, and run a
 google search for browser kerberos auth with apache. You do need the
 right module for apache to achieve this though- mod_auth_kerb. Some only
 offer a link between apache and kdc with base64 encryption.

Non-related to the OP's problem, but base64 is a transport encoding and not 
encryption. It is used as 7-bit transport for 8bit (or more) data, like 
attachments (email) and form uploads (web).

-- 
Mel

Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules
and never get to the software part.
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Kerberos keytab

2008-11-10 Thread Ansar Mohammed
Does anyone know what is the actual purpose of the Kerberos krb5.keytab
file?

 

 I have a freebsd 7 configured to authenticate users via Kerberos (both
apache and ssh).

 

Although the authentication between apache and browser is still basic and
between the ssh client and server is still keyboard interactive. FreeBSD
validates the account in the background using Kerberos to AD. 

 

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Re: Kerberos keytab

2008-11-10 Thread Da Rock

On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 14:17 +0100, Mel wrote:
 On Monday 10 November 2008 13:53:41 Da Rock wrote:
 
 
  Check the kerberos site for further, more accurate info, and run a
  google search for browser kerberos auth with apache. You do need the
  right module for apache to achieve this though- mod_auth_kerb. Some only
  offer a link between apache and kdc with base64 encryption.
 
 Non-related to the OP's problem, but base64 is a transport encoding and not 
 encryption. It is used as 7-bit transport for 8bit (or more) data, like 
 attachments (email) and form uploads (web).
 

Good to know the difference, but that still seems very poor against the
kerberos security available. Good to know that the newer browsers are
addressing this issue...

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