Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-27 Thread Jeff Rollin

Hi.

On 01/03/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

Sorry this question is a little off-topic...

We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are running
freebsd.

The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial support :(

We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform 3
(http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be available for
freebsd until the end of the year...

So I will need to setup a machine with linux.

I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone recommend one to
me please.

We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions, will act
as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports and
upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go with Redhat
or any commercial distribution.

I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing with
software installation and updates and I am looking for something equivalent
on a linux distribution.

Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've check
ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend...

Thanks




The Zend vendor (Zendor?!) is most likely to support Redhat but if you
are feeling brave or lucky you could try Gentoo, for which I'll add my
vote. Slackware and Arch are nice too but Slackware leaves all the
compiling and installing to you (unless you use one of the packages
like slapt-get, etc., which aren't the official solution for
installing packages) and when I tried it, Arch (a) had a smaller
package selection than Gentoo and (b) had less complete documentation.

Debian is good too if you have supported hardware (I've found their hw
support not to be as good as say Gentoo's or Arch's) but if you prefer
freebsd ports to packages then you may wish to avoid it, as although
apt-get appears to have a mechanism for installing from source, it
looks complicated cf. Gentoo's.

My £0.02

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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: Rick Apichairuk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd



 Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've
check
 ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend...

 Thanks

 I recommend Gentoo or Slackware. I feel that these are most similar to
FreeBSD
 in organization, configuration and third party software management.
Personally,
 I use Gentoo when I can't use FreeBSD. With Gentoo, you can compile
everything
 to be optimized for your specific processor if you want to do so.


How exactly do you compile a binary-only product like Zend Platform to be
optimiized for your CPU?

I realize you mean well but this is commercial software, he needs to call
Zend
technical support first and ask them which specific linux distro they prefer
to
use.  If he does not do this then at 4pm in the afternoon when there is a
problem he may get we didn't test it on that linux distro from Zend tech
support.

Ted

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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-23 Thread Rick Apichairuk
Hi,
 
Sorry this question is a little off-topic...
 
We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are running
freebsd.
 
The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial support :(
 
We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform 3
(http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be available for
freebsd until the end of the year...
 
So I will need to setup a machine with linux.
 
I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone recommend one to
me please.
 
We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions, will act
as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports and
upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go with Redhat
or any commercial distribution.
 
I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing with
software installation and updates and I am looking for something equivalent
on a linux distribution.
 
Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've check
ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend...
 
Thanks 
 
I recommend Gentoo or Slackware. I feel that these are most similar to FreeBSD
in organization, configuration and third party software management. Personally,
I use Gentoo when I can't use FreeBSD. With Gentoo, you can compile everything
to be optimized for your specific processor if you want to do so.
 
Best Regards,
 
Rick Apichairuk
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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-03 Thread bram

Hi

I'm not really pro-linux and I really like freebsd but if have to use 
linux (because I need things not available on bsd).
I always use fedora, it's fast to install lot's of info on the net and 
it is not time consuming (1 hour to install).





Danny Pansters schreef:
If you have a (Free)BSD mindset and like your rc.conf but don't mind 
typing pacman instead of pkg_* or portupgrade -P * and you don't mind using 
something called ABS for src packages, which is like ports, only with a stage 
install before live-system install, then you may just like ArchLinux.


I tried many but besides Debian, Arch is the only one I really enjoyed toying 
with. Haven't used Arch on serious production system, but it appears that 
other people do. Gentoo is nice (and keeps you busy/entertained) until it 
blows up on you.


Just my 0.02 as a long time FreeBSD user. The linux I used most was Debian but 
that was long ago before I landed at BSD.


Dan
 
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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-03 Thread David Robillard

If you have a (Free)BSD mindset and like your rc.conf but don't mind
typing pacman instead of pkg_* or portupgrade -P * and you don't mind using
something called ABS for src packages, which is like ports, only with a stage
install before live-system install, then you may just like ArchLinux.


Yes, I agree with Danny. Arch Linux is as close to FreeBSD that you
can get with Linux. I don't run any core business services on it, but
a friend does run his webservers on it and so far he's happy.

Again, my 0.02 on this topic :)

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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-03 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:57:18 -0600
Erik Osterholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No binary packages?  Could have fooled me.
 
 From:  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#ebuilds
 
 For full ISO releases, we create a full suite of binary packages in
 an enhanced .tbz2 format, which is .tar.bz2 compatible with
 meta-information attached to the end of the file. These can be used to
 install a working (though not fully optimized) version of the package
 quickly and efficiently.

Ah, what do you know :) thanks for making me a little bit less ignorant :)

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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-02 Thread Danny Pansters
If you have a (Free)BSD mindset and like your rc.conf but don't mind 
typing pacman instead of pkg_* or portupgrade -P * and you don't mind using 
something called ABS for src packages, which is like ports, only with a stage 
install before live-system install, then you may just like ArchLinux.

I tried many but besides Debian, Arch is the only one I really enjoyed toying 
with. Haven't used Arch on serious production system, but it appears that 
other people do. Gentoo is nice (and keeps you busy/entertained) until it 
blows up on you.

Just my 0.02 as a long time FreeBSD user. The linux I used most was Debian but 
that was long ago before I landed at BSD.

Dan
 
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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-01 Thread Uwe Laverenz
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 06:46:13PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've check
 ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend...

If you want a professional and well supported system, but don't need
commercial support, CentOS is the way to go: http://www.centos.org

CentOS is a free version of Redhat's Enterprise Linux and is available
for several platforms, including amd64. Everything that is certified for
RHEL will run without problems on CentOS. The current version is 4.4 but
a new version of RHEL is expected to be released during the next weeks
(which will be followed by a new version of CentOS).

If you want an entirely free system with a large software repository and
don't care for certifications from software or hardware vendors, I'd
strongly recommend Debian Etch (will be the stable release in a short
while). Commercial support is available from Hewlett Packard IIRC.

bye,
Uwe
 
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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-01 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 10:07:12 +0100
Uwe Laverenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you want a professional and well supported system, but don't need
 commercial support, CentOS is the way to go: http://www.centos.org
 
 CentOS is a free version of Redhat's Enterprise Linux and is available
 for several platforms, including amd64. Everything that is certified for
 RHEL will run without problems on CentOS. The current version is 4.4 but
 a new version of RHEL is expected to be released during the next weeks
 (which will be followed by a new version of CentOS).

I'll agree with Uwe here - Centos is very nice and stable. I've given up on
gentoo, ubuntu , and RHEL (any more lock in and they might as well move to
Redmond...). 

( mainly using Centos as a host for VMWare server since it wont run on
FBSD :( , and FreeBSD on XEN isn't there yet, i think... maybe i ought to try
Netbsd... )

I haven't touched slackware since 1995 - if it's still so good I will give it
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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-01 Thread Stephen Liu

--- DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Patrick Bowen wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Sorry this question is a little off-topic...
 
  We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are
 
  running
  freebsd.
 
  The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial
 support :(
 
  We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform
 3
  (http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be
 available for
  freebsd until the end of the year...
 
  So I will need to setup a machine with linux.
 
  I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone
 recommend 
  one to
  me please.
 
  We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions,
 will 
  act
  as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports
 and
  upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go
 with 
  Redhat
  or any commercial distribution.
 
  I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing
 with
  software installation and updates and I am looking for something 
  equivalent
  on a linux distribution.
 
  Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production,
 we've 
  check
  ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users
 recommend...
 
  Thanks
 
 
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  Take a look at Slackware.
  
  http://www.slackware.com
  
  Patrick
 
 Seconded, if I got to run Linux, I run Slackware (and I have in 
 production). If you need it there is a port of Slack to AMD64 called 
 slamd64, http://www.slamd64.com/.
 
 FreeBSD users will appreciate it's simplicity and it's stability.


slamd64-11.0 has issue on nVidia driver, same as FreeBSD 6.2-amd64. 
Besides you need to recompile kernel to enable smp technology.  Each
time after recompiling/upgrading kernel you need to reinstall the
driver download on nVidia.com.  The situation is better than FBSD.  I
can't locate driver for FBSD x86_64 on their website, only x_86
available.  The onboard NIC fails to work and X can't work properly 
However smp technology is already enabled on FBSD.

I have slamd64-11.0 and FreeBSD 6.2-amd64 running here.

I have no knowledge on CentOS.  I'm prepared to try it.  According to
folks on their forum CentOS supports nVidia chipset without problem.   


B.R.
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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-01 Thread Simon Gao

Stephen Liu wrote:

--- DAve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Patrick Bowen wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Hi,

Sorry this question is a little off-topic...

We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are

running

freebsd.

The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial


support :(


We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform


3


(http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be


available for


freebsd until the end of the year...

So I will need to setup a machine with linux.

I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone

recommend 


one to
me please.

We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions,

will 


act
as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports


and


upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go

with 


Redhat
or any commercial distribution.

I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing


with

software installation and updates and I am looking for something 
equivalent

on a linux distribution.

Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production,

we've 


check
ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users


recommend...


Thanks


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Take a look at Slackware.

http://www.slackware.com

Patrick
  
Seconded, if I got to run Linux, I run Slackware (and I have in 
production). If you need it there is a port of Slack to AMD64 called 
slamd64, http://www.slamd64.com/.


FreeBSD users will appreciate it's simplicity and it's stability.




slamd64-11.0 has issue on nVidia driver, same as FreeBSD 6.2-amd64. 
Besides you need to recompile kernel to enable smp technology.  Each

time after recompiling/upgrading kernel you need to reinstall the
driver download on nVidia.com.  The situation is better than FBSD.  I
can't locate driver for FBSD x86_64 on their website, only x_86
available.  The onboard NIC fails to work and X can't work properly 
However smp technology is already enabled on FBSD.


I have slamd64-11.0 and FreeBSD 6.2-amd64 running here.

I have no knowledge on CentOS.  I'm prepared to try it.  According to
folks on their forum CentOS supports nVidia chipset without problem.   



B.R.
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Why not give Gentoo Linux (www.gentoo.org) a try. By using Gentoo Linux, 
you not only get the similar port system, portage, as with FreeBSD, but 
also enjoy all the benefits Linux can provide. Gentoo Linux is very 
flexible and has a very good support community.


Simon


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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-01 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:17:10 -0800
Simon Gao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why not give Gentoo Linux (www.gentoo.org) a try. By using Gentoo Linux, 
 you not only get the similar port system, portage, as with FreeBSD, but 
 also enjoy all the benefits Linux can provide. Gentoo Linux is very 
 flexible and has a very good support community.

risking making this a discussion about linux : I've used gentoo... portage is
OK but is nowhere near as good as the ports collection, IMHO. First, you
need to build everything from scratch, no binary packages. There is an annoying
split of portage sections (dev | production | good | bad | pink ..whatever),
that someone else puts on you, rather than allow you to chose what to use. And
masked ports?!
-USE flags are confusing, to me (global? local? ) Anyway..maybe I haven't got
the patience needed for linuxi rather get on with life :D

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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-01 Thread Stephen Liu

--- Simon Gao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Stephen Liu wrote:
 
  Take a look at Slackware.
 
  http://www.slackware.com
 
  Patrick

  Seconded, if I got to run Linux, I run Slackware (and I have in 
  production). If you need it there is a port of Slack to AMD64
 called 
  slamd64, http://www.slamd64.com/.
 
  FreeBSD users will appreciate it's simplicity and it's stability.
  
 
 
  slamd64-11.0 has issue on nVidia driver, same as FreeBSD 6.2-amd64.
 
  Besides you need to recompile kernel to enable smp technology. 
 Each
  time after recompiling/upgrading kernel you need to reinstall the
  driver download on nVidia.com.  The situation is better than FBSD. 
 I
  can't locate driver for FBSD x86_64 on their website, only x_86
  available.  The onboard NIC fails to work and X can't work properly
 
  However smp technology is already enabled on FBSD.
 
  I have slamd64-11.0 and FreeBSD 6.2-amd64 running here.
 
  I have no knowledge on CentOS.  I'm prepared to try it.  According
 to
  folks on their forum CentOS supports nVidia chipset without
 problem.   
 
 
  B.R.
  Stephen Liu
   
 Why not give Gentoo Linux (www.gentoo.org) a try. By using Gentoo
 Linux, 
 you not only get the similar port system, portage, as with FreeBSD,
 but 
 also enjoy all the benefits Linux can provide. Gentoo Linux is very 
 flexible and has a very good support community.


I have 64 bit Gentoo box here.  It also has nVidia driver problem.  My
20 Philips LCD display can't display resolution  1024x768.  I have
to download a driver from nVidia.com.  Now it displays correct
resolution 1680x1050.  I don't know whether I need to reinstall the
said driver if after upgrading/recompiling the kernel.  Because it is
running on a single core AMD Athlon64 PC.  I don't need to recompile
kernel to enable smp.

I'm now searching a rigid OS, either Unix or Linux, to be run as
server.  For time saving I don't expect building the same myself, HLFS.
 I need X for running web browser to communicate outside World.  Text
browser such as elinks etc. won't serve my need.  I won't have X
started at boot.  I only start it at need.  That is my purpose to test
CentOS.

B.R.
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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-03-01 Thread Erik Osterholm
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 08:55:41AM +1100, Norberto Meijome wrote:
 On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:17:10 -0800 Simon Gao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Why not give Gentoo Linux (www.gentoo.org) a try. By using Gentoo
  Linux, you not only get the similar port system, portage, as with
  FreeBSD, but also enjoy all the benefits Linux can provide. Gentoo
  Linux is very flexible and has a very good support community.
 
 risking making this a discussion about linux : I've used gentoo...
 portage is OK but is nowhere near as good as the ports
 collection, IMHO. First, you need to build everything from scratch,
 no binary packages. There is an annoying split of portage sections
 (dev | production | good | bad | pink ..whatever), that someone else
 puts on you, rather than allow you to chose what to use. And masked
 ports?!  -USE flags are confusing, to me (global? local? )
 Anyway..maybe I haven't got the patience needed for linuxi
 rather get on with life :D

No binary packages?  Could have fooled me.

From:  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#ebuilds

For full ISO releases, we create a full suite of binary packages in
an enhanced .tbz2 format, which is .tar.bz2 compatible with
meta-information attached to the end of the file. These can be used to
install a working (though not fully optimized) version of the package
quickly and efficiently.

Erik
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Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-02-28 Thread mailing-lists
Hi,

Sorry this question is a little off-topic...

We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are running
freebsd.

The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial support :(

We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform 3
(http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be available for
freebsd until the end of the year...

So I will need to setup a machine with linux.

I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone recommend one to
me please.

We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions, will act
as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports and
upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go with Redhat
or any commercial distribution.

I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing with
software installation and updates and I am looking for something equivalent
on a linux distribution.

Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've check
ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend...

Thanks 



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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-02-28 Thread Patrick Bowen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

Sorry this question is a little off-topic...

We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are running
freebsd.

The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial support :(

We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform 3
(http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be available for
freebsd until the end of the year...

So I will need to setup a machine with linux.

I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone recommend one to
me please.

We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions, will act
as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports and
upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go with Redhat
or any commercial distribution.

I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing with
software installation and updates and I am looking for something equivalent
on a linux distribution.

Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've check
ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend...

Thanks 




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Take a look at Slackware.

http://www.slackware.com

Patrick
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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-02-28 Thread Pablo Mora
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Sorry this question is a little off-topic...
 
 We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are running
 freebsd.
 
 The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial support :(
 
 We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform 3
 (http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be available for
 freebsd until the end of the year...
 
 So I will need to setup a machine with linux.
 
 I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone recommend one to
 me please.
 
 We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions, will act
 as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports and
 upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go with Redhat
 or any commercial distribution.
 
 I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing with
 software installation and updates and I am looking for something equivalent
 on a linux distribution.
 
 Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've check
 ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend...
 
 Thanks 


Gentoo: http://www.gentoo.org

Portage:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=1

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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-02-28 Thread Patrick Bowen

Patrick Bowen wrote:

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Hi,

Sorry this question is a little off-topic...

We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are 
running

freebsd.

The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial 
support :(


We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform 3
(http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be available 
for

freebsd until the end of the year...

So I will need to setup a machine with linux.

I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone recommend 
one to

me please.

We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions, 
will act

as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports and
upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go with 
Redhat

or any commercial distribution.

I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing with
software installation and updates and I am looking for something 
equivalent

on a linux distribution.

Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've 
check

ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend...

Thanks


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Take a look at Slackware.

http://www.slackware.com

Patrick
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Sorry, my bad. Slackware doesn't support amd64 extensions. However, 
there is a  an unofficial port of Slackware to amd64 at 
http://slamd64.com/home.html.


Patrick

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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-02-28 Thread Colin Percival
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform 3
 (http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be available for
 freebsd until the end of the year...

Have you tried the linux emulation layer?

 Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've check
 ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend...

I recommend FreeBSD. :-)

Colin Percival
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Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd

2007-02-28 Thread DAve

Patrick Bowen wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

Sorry this question is a little off-topic...

We've been using Freebsd for many years and all of our servers are 
running

freebsd.

The only thing that is a pain with freebsd, is poor commercial support :(

We are running in a situation where a customer needs Zend platform 3
(http://www.zend.com/products/zend_platform) which won't be available for
freebsd until the end of the year...

So I will need to setup a machine with linux.

I don't know much about linux distributions, could someone recommend 
one to

me please.

We are looking for a platform that will support amd64 extensions, will 
act

as a console only server and that has a good way to install ports and
upgrade. We want something secure and stable. We don't wanna go with 
Redhat

or any commercial distribution.

I really like the cvsup/make install/portupgrade way of dealing with
software installation and updates and I am looking for something 
equivalent

on a linux distribution.

Could you recommend a distribution you are using in production, we've 
check

ubuntu, fedora and Debian, but I wonder what freebsd users recommend...

Thanks


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Take a look at Slackware.

http://www.slackware.com

Patrick


Seconded, if I got to run Linux, I run Slackware (and I have in 
production). If you need it there is a port of Slack to AMD64 called 
slamd64, http://www.slamd64.com/.


FreeBSD users will appreciate it's simplicity and it's stability.

DAve


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