Re: List Administration, was: Re: your mail
Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So who is mocking. Not I. I would consider voluntarily > moderating this list as a monumental job - well beyond anything You don't understand. Its only about moderating postings from non members. Regards, Frank ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: List Administration, was: Re: your mail
> So who is mocking. Not I. I would consider voluntarily moderating this list as a monumental job - well beyond anything I would have time for. jerry > Jerry McAllister wrote: > [ ... ] > >> I'm volunteering my time, network bandwidth, > > > > Whew. > > Neighbor, for choice I try to be polite, even in the face of sarcastic comments, > false admiration, rhetorical games, and all of the other bullshit that some > people exhibit. > > Most of the time, I leave it at that. > > However, I sometimes wonder whether people who are trying to be impolite to me > have the background to understand what I consider a "real problem". Most people > don't think of pain as being educational, I've learned. Most people have the > choice of not thinking about pain at all, much less wonder whether they should > think of pain as a friend or only an old, familiar acquaintance. Sad, hmm? > > I don't mock people for being ignorant, Jerry; I envy them. > > And while it may be true that I envy someone for their blind ignorance, I've > rarely found it beneficial to explain this perspective to other people. Troy > Settle pushed hard enough to get a taste of reality rather than courtesy from > me. Troy apparently was intelligent enough to learn from the experience. Are > you also capable of learning behavior, Jerry? > > -- > -Chuck > > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: List Administration, was: Re: your mail
Jerry McAllister wrote: [ ... ] >> I'm volunteering my time, network bandwidth, Whew. Neighbor, for choice I try to be polite, even in the face of sarcastic comments, false admiration, rhetorical games, and all of the other bullshit that some people exhibit. Most of the time, I leave it at that. However, I sometimes wonder whether people who are trying to be impolite to me have the background to understand what I consider a "real problem". Most people don't think of pain as being educational, I've learned. Most people have the choice of not thinking about pain at all, much less wonder whether they should think of pain as a friend or only an old, familiar acquaintance. Sad, hmm? I don't mock people for being ignorant, Jerry; I envy them. And while it may be true that I envy someone for their blind ignorance, I've rarely found it beneficial to explain this perspective to other people. Troy Settle pushed hard enough to get a taste of reality rather than courtesy from me. Troy apparently was intelligent enough to learn from the experience. Are you also capable of learning behavior, Jerry? -- -Chuck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: List Administration, was: Re: your mail
> > Jerry McAllister wrote: > [ ... ] > > Yah, and that one has been covered a hundred times too. > > Oddly enough, several other FreeBSD lists have become moderated in recent > times. Yes. But they have more specifically limited scope. jerry > > > You want to pay a couple of full time salaries to people to > > sit around and moderate the list, cough up. > > Sure, I'm willing to "cough up". I'm volunteering my time, network bandwidth, Whew. > and resources to help...or try to, anyway. I've had one person also express > willingness to moderate. > > -- > -Chuck > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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Jerry McAllister wrote: [ ... ] Yah, and that one has been covered a hundred times too. Oddly enough, several other FreeBSD lists have become moderated in recent times. You want to pay a couple of full time salaries to people to sit around and moderate the list, cough up. Sure, I'm willing to "cough up". I'm volunteering my time, network bandwidth, and resources to help...or try to, anyway. I've had one person also express willingness to moderate. -- -Chuck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: List Administration, was: Re: your mail
> > Jerry McAllister wrote: > [ ... ] > > Gee whiz. Another round of this argument. Seems it comes along > > about every 2 or 3 months and is all the same and seems to generate > > as much unnecessary traffic as spamers do. It just indicates that > > the advocates do not understand the function or operation of this list. > > Modern mailing lists are capable of holding unapproved postings for moderator > approval. If <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was moderated, the spam would be read once > by a member of the team of moderators, and then discarded rather than being > forwarded to all of the members of the list. Yah, and that one has been covered a hundred times too. You want to pay a couple of full time salaries to people to sit around and moderate the list, cough up. jerry > > Legitimate list traffic from members of the list would be approved by default, > with a few exceptions (ie, administrivia postings like "unsubscribe"). > > Legitmate list traffic from non-members of the list would be approved after > moderator review. If there is sufficient interest-- being defined as at least > two other people who are willing to act as moderators (*)-- I'll set up a > moderated version of this list and let the user community decide for themselves. > > -Chuck > > --- > (*): Having several people moderate makes the task load easier, tends to balance > out bursts of held postings, and makes a second opinion available for boundary > cases. > > > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
List Administration, was: Re: your mail
Jerry McAllister wrote: [ ... ] Gee whiz. Another round of this argument. Seems it comes along about every 2 or 3 months and is all the same and seems to generate as much unnecessary traffic as spamers do. It just indicates that the advocates do not understand the function or operation of this list. Modern mailing lists are capable of holding unapproved postings for moderator approval. If <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was moderated, the spam would be read once by a member of the team of moderators, and then discarded rather than being forwarded to all of the members of the list. Legitimate list traffic from members of the list would be approved by default, with a few exceptions (ie, administrivia postings like "unsubscribe"). Legitmate list traffic from non-members of the list would be approved after moderator review. If there is sufficient interest-- being defined as at least two other people who are willing to act as moderators (*)-- I'll set up a moderated version of this list and let the user community decide for themselves. -Chuck --- (*): Having several people moderate makes the task load easier, tends to balance out bursts of held postings, and makes a second opinion available for boundary cases. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
