Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-14 Thread Arthur Chance

On 03/13/12 19:54, Carmel wrote:

On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:45 -0500
Adam Vande More articulated:


Are you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a DLNA
server?  Such need can be met by net/mediatomb or other port.


A couple of people have replied to this thread. The Samba shares are
configured correctly and are visible on my Windows based PCs. I have no
idea if the TVs are using DLNA. I never had to configure anything,
other than sharing the folders, on my Microsoft PCs, so am I to assume
that DLNA is always available on that OS? Anyway, I will try your
suggestion.


I have a Sony networked TV, and it definitely needs a DLNA server and is 
very picky about what formats are served. I'm not a Windows user but I 
have the impression Home or Home Premium versions of Vista/Win7 have 
DLNA support built in.


Alexander Leidinger has written a couple of blog posts on getting Sony 
TVs working with FBSD. Take a look at this and the related posts:


http://www.leidinger.net/blog/2011/09/15/sony-bravia-tv-dlna-formats/
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Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-14 Thread Carmel
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:26:43 +
Arthur Chance articulated:

 On 03/13/12 19:54, Carmel wrote:
  On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:45 -0500
  Adam Vande More articulated:
 
  Are you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a DLNA
  server?  Such need can be met by net/mediatomb or other port.
 
  A couple of people have replied to this thread. The Samba shares are
  configured correctly and are visible on my Windows based PCs. I
  have no idea if the TVs are using DLNA. I never had to configure
  anything, other than sharing the folders, on my Microsoft PCs, so
  am I to assume that DLNA is always available on that OS? Anyway, I
  will try your suggestion.
 
 I have a Sony networked TV, and it definitely needs a DLNA server and
 is very picky about what formats are served. I'm not a Windows user
 but I have the impression Home or Home Premium versions of Vista/Win7
 have DLNA support built in.
 
 Alexander Leidinger has written a couple of blog posts on getting
 Sony TVs working with FBSD. Take a look at this and the related posts:
 
 http://www.leidinger.net/blog/2011/09/15/sony-bravia-tv-dlna-formats/

I did some checking. Win7, all versions, have support built into it.
Apparently Vista and WinXP were updated with support via the Microsoft
Update system. I have to admit, that does make for a very user
friendly environment. Obviously Microsoft anticipated user needs quite
successfully. I have several friends who have integrated their TVs with
their home PC quite successfully and painlessly.

I am still studying how to make FreeBSD similarly user friendly.
Thanks for the link.

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Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-14 Thread Carmel
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:45:36 +0100
Polytropon articulated:

 //* OFFLIST
 
 On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 06:39:08 -0400, Carmel wrote:
  Obviously Microsoft anticipated user needs quite
  successfully. I have several friends who have integrated their TVs
  with their home PC quite successfully and painlessly.
 
 This has changed with the upcoming version of their Windows.
 Check out this video and have a good laugh.
 
 http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-pick/a-real-user-proves-windows-8-fails-on-the-desktop-20120312/
 
 ;-)

Ah yes, your basic FUD rubbish. Win8 has not even been released. Many
of the features are still in a state of flux. Complaining about
something in an unreleased version of Windows is like complaining that
FreeBSD-10 is a failure because (you fill in the blank). When it is
released, then proper comparisons can be made.

BTW, I read on another blog by a typical MS Hater that he hated the
new interface because the mouse was no longer usable in the system. It
turns out the genius was not aware of how to enable or disable the
mouse. And yes, the idiot is a charter member of slashdot. Go
figure ...

In addition, I really do not appreciate your trolling.

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Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-14 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 07:32:44 -0400, Carmel wrote:
 On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:45:36 +0100
 Polytropon articulated:
 
  //* OFFLIST

As you carried this on-list again, allow me to reply
in public. I do not appreciate your lack of humour
(see explaination at the end).



  On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 06:39:08 -0400, Carmel wrote:
   Obviously Microsoft anticipated user needs quite
   successfully. I have several friends who have integrated their TVs
   with their home PC quite successfully and painlessly.
  
  This has changed with the upcoming version of their Windows.
  Check out this video and have a good laugh.
  
  http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-pick/a-real-user-proves-windows-8-fails-on-the-desktop-20120312/
  
  ;-)
 
 Ah yes, your basic FUD rubbish. Win8 has not even been released. Many
 of the features are still in a state of flux.

Your basic FUD rubbish. Specific features have been
confirmed to be in the final release. The absence
of the well-known interaction starting point is
one of them.

While I like some of Windows 8's concepts especially
for the mobile market, transitioning them 1:1 to the
desktop _and its users_ will cause trouble, as you
can see in the video.



 Complaining about
 something in an unreleased version of Windows is like complaining that
 FreeBSD-10 is a failure because (you fill in the blank). When it is
 released, then proper comparisons can be made.

We will see.

The main effect of failure will be when problems
start hitting the support queues. Re-learning things
has never been a great strength in Windows land,
but maybe a radical change in usage paradigm isn't
that bad. Also architectural changes (e. g. abandoning
decades of legacy) are welcome by supporters and also
by programmers.

As I said, we will see.



 BTW, I read on another blog by a typical MS Hater that he hated the
 new interface because the mouse was no longer usable in the system. It
 turns out the genius was not aware of how to enable or disable the
 mouse.

That's really stupid.

Do not confuse me with a MICROS~1 hater. You would be
surprised by the truth.



 And yes, the idiot is a charter member of slashdot. Go
 figure ...

I don't consume that kind of web content, sorry.



 In addition, I really do not appreciate your trolling.

You missed reading and interpreting the ;-) appended.
Better luck next time.



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RE: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-14 Thread Graeme Dargie


-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Arthur Chance
Sent: 14 March 2012 10:27
To: FreeBSD
Cc: Carmel
Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

On 03/13/12 19:54, Carmel wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:45 -0500
 Adam Vande More articulated:

 Are you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a DLNA server?  
 Such need can be met by net/mediatomb or other port.

 A couple of people have replied to this thread. The Samba shares are 
 configured correctly and are visible on my Windows based PCs. I have 
 no idea if the TVs are using DLNA. I never had to configure anything, 
 other than sharing the folders, on my Microsoft PCs, so am I to assume 
 that DLNA is always available on that OS? Anyway, I will try your 
 suggestion.

I have a Sony networked TV, and it definitely needs a DLNA server and is very 
picky about what formats are served. I'm not a Windows user but I have the 
impression Home or Home Premium versions of Vista/Win7 have DLNA support built 
in.

Alexander Leidinger has written a couple of blog posts on getting Sony TVs 
working with FBSD. Take a look at this and the related posts:

http://www.leidinger.net/blog/2011/09/15/sony-bravia-tv-dlna-formats/
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I would have to disagree with some of the stuff in that blog, all be it I have 
a Bravia 5810 rather than a 5800 where he states that you cannot stream HD 
formats in PAL I would disagree, I am using different software as well but it 
does happily steam HD 720 and 1080 in PAL. IIRC Sony UK now officially 
recommend Serviio as a steaming solution for their products. I used to use 
ushare which worked great with the xbox 360 but the TV would not go near it and 
I wanted a solution that did not require extra machines to be on to use, hence 
not going down the Windows media player router, that and it was never happy if 
the media was remote.  I really did spend close to a year looking for a 
solution, and I even asked on the list if anyone knew of anything, the key is 
not so much in the DLNA support but in the media transcoding, for Sony you need 
something that will take your xvid / divx / mkv file and convert that in real 
time to a MPEG2 stream which the TV will then display.

Regards

Graeme
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Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-14 Thread Peter Harrison

   So= rry for top posting - my 'phone makes it difficult.
   I use Mediatomb = very successfully to serve video from my FreeBSD
   server to my DLNA digibox.= Moderately easy to setup and a breeze once
   up and running.
   = span id=signature

   --
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   = From: Carmel
   Sent: Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10= :39
   To: FreeBSD
   Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folde= rs on FreeBSD visible on HD
   TV
   On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 10:26:43 += 
   Arthur Chance articulated:
   
On 03/13/12 19:54, = Carmel wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:45 -0500
   =  Adam Vande More articulated:

 Are = you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a
   DLNA
g= t; server? Such need can be met by net/mediatomb or other
   port.
   = 
 A couple of people have replied to this thread. The S= amba shares
   are
 configured correctly and are visible on my = Windows based PCs.
   I
 have no idea if the TVs are using DLNA= . I never had to
   configure
 anything, other than sharing t= he folders, on my Microsoft PCs,
   so
 am I to assume that DLN= A is always available on that OS? Anyway,
   I
 will try your s= uggestion.

I have a Sony networked TV, and it defini= tely needs a DLNA server
   and
is very picky about what formats ar= e served. I'm not a Windows
   user
but I have the impression Home = or Home Premium versions of
   Vista/Win7
have DLNA support built i= n.

Alexander Leidinger has written a couple of blog = posts on
   getting
Sony TVs working with FBSD. Take a look at this= and the related
   posts:

http://www.leidinger.net/blo   g/2011/09/15/sony-bravia-tv-dlna-formats/
   
   I did some checking.= Win7, all versions, have support built into
   it.
   Apparently Vista and= WinXP were updated with support via the
   Microsoft
   Update system. I h= ave to admit, that does make for a very user
   friendly environment. = Obviously Microsoft anticipated user needs
   quite
   successfully. I have= several friends who have integrated their TVs
   with
   their home PC qui= te successfully and painlessly.
   
   I am still studying how to mak= e FreeBSD similarly user
   friendly.
   Thanks for the link.
   
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Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-13 Thread Carmel
Presently, I have three HD TVs, two Samsung and one Sony. On these TVs
there is a menu where I can access remote devices to access music or
videos. By marking the folders shared in Windows, these folders are
available on these TVs. I have found no way to accomplish the same
thing with my FreeBSD-8.2 PC. Simply using Samba and creating a shared
music or video directory does not work. I contacted Samsung and they
told me that they do not support architecture other than Microsoft  MAC
and that I should contact whoever wrote the OS I am working with for
assistance. I didn't bother with Sony since I assume I would have only
gotten the same response.

If anyone understands what I am talking about and has a feasible
solution I would love to hear. I had considered either mapping a drive
in Windows that pointed to the FreeBSD share or creating a link to it.
I would prefer not to have to go that route however, even if it did
work.

I probably should add that this entire system is wireless with the
exception of the FreeBSD machine that is hard wired to the wireless
router.

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Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-13 Thread Stas Verberkt

Carmel schreef op 13-03-2012 18:29:
Presently, I have three HD TVs, two Samsung and one Sony. On these 
TVs

there is a menu where I can access remote devices to access music or
videos. By marking the folders shared in Windows, these folders are
available on these TVs. I have found no way to accomplish the same
thing with my FreeBSD-8.2 PC. Simply using Samba and creating a 
shared

music or video directory does not work. I contacted Samsung and they
told me that they do not support architecture other than Microsoft  
MAC

and that I should contact whoever wrote the OS I am working with for
assistance. I didn't bother with Sony since I assume I would have 
only

gotten the same response.

If anyone understands what I am talking about and has a feasible
solution I would love to hear. I had considered either mapping a 
drive
in Windows that pointed to the FreeBSD share or creating a link to 
it.

I would prefer not to have to go that route however, even if it did
work.

I probably should add that this entire system is wireless with the
exception of the FreeBSD machine that is hard wired to the wireless
router.


My guess would still be Samba, as this is an implementation of the 
shared

folders of Windows. Maybe your configuration was not perfect?
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Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-13 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Presently, I have three HD TVs, two Samsung and one Sony. On these TVs
 there is a menu where I can access remote devices to access music or
 videos. By marking the folders shared in Windows, these folders are
 available on these TVs. I have found no way to accomplish the same
 thing with my FreeBSD-8.2 PC.


Are you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a DLNA server?  Such
need can be met by net/mediatomb or other port.


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RE: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-13 Thread Sean Cavanaugh


 -Original Message-
 From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Stas Verberkt
 Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:14 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV
 
 Carmel schreef op 13-03-2012 18:29:
  Presently, I have three HD TVs, two Samsung and one Sony. On these TVs
  there is a menu where I can access remote devices to access music or
  videos. By marking the folders shared in Windows, these folders are
  available on these TVs. I have found no way to accomplish the same
  thing with my FreeBSD-8.2 PC. Simply using Samba and creating a shared
  music or video directory does not work. I contacted Samsung and they
  told me that they do not support architecture other than Microsoft 
  MAC and that I should contact whoever wrote the OS I am working with
  for assistance. I didn't bother with Sony since I assume I would have
  only gotten the same response.
 
  If anyone understands what I am talking about and has a feasible
  solution I would love to hear. I had considered either mapping a drive
  in Windows that pointed to the FreeBSD share or creating a link to it.
  I would prefer not to have to go that route however, even if it did
  work.
 
  I probably should add that this entire system is wireless with the
  exception of the FreeBSD machine that is hard wired to the wireless
  router.
 
 My guess would still be Samba, as this is an implementation of the shared
 folders of Windows. Maybe your configuration was not perfect?
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Make sure that the SAMBA shares are not hidden. Test from a windows PC to see 
that they are listed properly.

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Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-13 Thread Carmel
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:45 -0500
Adam Vande More articulated:

 Are you sure these devices aren't trying to connect to a DLNA
 server?  Such need can be met by net/mediatomb or other port.

A couple of people have replied to this thread. The Samba shares are
configured correctly and are visible on my Windows based PCs. I have no
idea if the TVs are using DLNA. I never had to configure anything,
other than sharing the folders, on my Microsoft PCs, so am I to assume
that DLNA is always available on that OS? Anyway, I will try your
suggestion.

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RE: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-13 Thread Graeme Dargie
Been here ... cursed that, your TV is not seeing the folders directly at least 
not in the traditional sense, it is likely that it is using WMP as a DLNA 
server which will transcode the media in to a format that your TV can play by 
streaming. 
You solution is in ports /net/serviio 

You can find more information here http://www.serviio.org 

Do not worry that it mentions Win Mac and Linux, it does work great on FreeBSD .

Regards 

Graeme

-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Carmel
Sent: 13 March 2012 17:30
To: FreeBSD
Subject: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

Presently, I have three HD TVs, two Samsung and one Sony. On these TVs there is 
a menu where I can access remote devices to access music or videos. By marking 
the folders shared in Windows, these folders are available on these TVs. I 
have found no way to accomplish the same thing with my FreeBSD-8.2 PC. Simply 
using Samba and creating a shared music or video directory does not work. I 
contacted Samsung and they told me that they do not support architecture other 
than Microsoft  MAC and that I should contact whoever wrote the OS I am 
working with for assistance. I didn't bother with Sony since I assume I would 
have only gotten the same response.

If anyone understands what I am talking about and has a feasible solution I 
would love to hear. I had considered either mapping a drive in Windows that 
pointed to the FreeBSD share or creating a link to it.
I would prefer not to have to go that route however, even if it did work.

I probably should add that this entire system is wireless with the exception of 
the FreeBSD machine that is hard wired to the wireless router.

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Re: Making Music / Video folders on FreeBSD visible on HD TV

2012-03-13 Thread Da Rock

On 03/14/12 03:29, Carmel wrote:

Presently, I have three HD TVs, two Samsung and one Sony. On these TVs
there is a menu where I can access remote devices to access music or
videos. By marking the folders shared in Windows, these folders are
available on these TVs. I have found no way to accomplish the same
thing with my FreeBSD-8.2 PC. Simply using Samba and creating a shared
music or video directory does not work. I contacted Samsung and they
told me that they do not support architecture other than Microsoft  MAC
and that I should contact whoever wrote the OS I am working with for
assistance. I didn't bother with Sony since I assume I would have only
gotten the same response.
Ironic, considering Sony use FreeBSD for PS... might have had more 
success than Samsung :)


There's a DLNA server in ports you could try.


If anyone understands what I am talking about and has a feasible
solution I would love to hear. I had considered either mapping a drive
in Windows that pointed to the FreeBSD share or creating a link to it.
I would prefer not to have to go that route however, even if it did
work.

I probably should add that this entire system is wireless with the
exception of the FreeBSD machine that is hard wired to the wireless
router.



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