Max Email Users

2002-10-29 Thread Matt Delaine
We are running FreeBSD 4.6 on a PIII 600 with 256 Meg RAM as our mail
server.  At what point (how many users) will we start running into trouble
(have problems allowing us to send and receive email?)  Thanks.

Matt Delaine
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Re: Max Email Users

2002-10-29 Thread DaleCo Help Desk
From: Matt Delaine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Max Email Users


 We are running FreeBSD 4.6 on a PIII 600 with 256 Meg RAM as our
mail
 server.  At what point (how many users) will we start running into
trouble
 (have problems allowing us to send and receive email?)  Thanks.

 Matt Delaine
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Anecdotal, and from memory, but IIRC Yahoo was handling
2 million messages/diem on 166's in 1997.  I suppose it's
possible that disk space would give you trouble before
anything else.

Kevin Kinsey,
DaleCo, S.P.


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Re: Max Email Users

2002-10-29 Thread Anthony Abby
We are running FreeBSD 4.6 on a PIII 600 with 256 Meg RAM as our mail
server.  At what point (how many users) will we start running into trouble
(have problems allowing us to send and receive email?)  Thanks.


Well that depends on exactly how your users are using the mail server.  If all they're 
doing is accessing it via smtp/pop then the answer would be GOBS of users.  Sorry for 
that highly technical answer, but I honestly don't know how many users a 600mhz PIII 
will support, but I know it's hundreds at the very least.  I ran mailing lists with 
over 100k total subscribers on an old Cyrix MIII based Linux box that had no problem 
keeping up with the load.

If your users are using web-based email on your system, like hotmail or yahoo, then 
the number of users you'll be able to support will be significantly less.

Anthony

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Re: Max Email Users

2002-10-29 Thread MikeM
On 10/29/02 at 8:03 AM Matt Delaine wrote:

|We are running FreeBSD 4.6 on a PIII 600 with 256 Meg RAM as our mail
|server.  At what point (how many users) will we start running into trouble
|(have problems allowing us to send and receive email?)  Thanks.
 =

Mail servers tend to be more disk-intensive than CPU intensive.  As such,
your i/o throughput capability (or lack thereof) may be the bottleneck.




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Re: Max Email Users

2002-10-29 Thread Doug Hardie
On Tuesday, Oct 29, 2002, at 06:03 US/Pacific, Matt Delaine wrote:


We are running FreeBSD 4.6 on a PIII 600 with 256 Meg RAM as our mail
server.  At what point (how many users) will we start running into 
trouble
(have problems allowing us to send and receive email?)  Thanks.

I run an ISP and was using a PIII 200 MHz machine with 512 Meg Ram and 
supporting around 4000 active email accounts.  It also handled outgoing 
mail,  our admin functions, name service, YP master and some other low 
usage functions.   I recently upgraded to a newer machine because it 
was available an had more disk space.

With the old machine, I only say idle times under 90% when a user had 
their POP3 client set to not delete mail from the server and their 
mailbox grew to 100 MB or so.  Then the POP3 server has to do a lot of 
I/O to get to the new messages.  The issue is not so much the disk 
space as the time it takes to wade through all the old stuff.  I try to 
convince users to correct their configurations.


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Re: Max Email Users

2002-10-29 Thread erk!
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:28:08 -0500
Anthony Abby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well that depends on exactly how your users are using the mail server.
  If all they're doing is accessing it via smtp/pop then the answer
  would be GOBS of users.  Sorry for that highly technical answer, but
  I honestly don't know how many users a 600mhz PIII will support, but
  I know it's hundreds at the very least.  I ran mailing lists with
  over 100k total subscribers on an old Cyrix MIII based Linux box that
  had no problem keeping up with the load.

just to add to this, i've even heard of people running *bsd on a 486,
and still being able to handle hundreds of users.  in particular, i read
about a firewall box running openbsd awhile back that received hundreds
of hack attempts over a week-long period, and never skipped a beat.  the
same appears to be true for mail servers, too.

- erk

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