Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration

2007-08-24 Thread Bahman M.
  Then my configuration is not minimal I'd say :-)
  Thanks.

 so make use of it's huge power. first make gateway, then add squid at
 least. possibly mail etc.
A question out of subject:
Do I need to install in such conditions: a network composed of one
gateway and two other nodes at maximum and a slow connection? I mean
does it improve anything?

Bahman
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Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration

2007-08-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar

(cheap) PC to act as the gateway. The hardware specification is
CPU: Pentium II at 433MHz
RAM: 128MB
HDD: IDE 4GB
LAN Card: D-Link 538FE

Internet connection is a slow one below 512Kbps and there is only one
other node than the gateway in the network.

Is the configuration enough?


for pure gateway/nat 486 with 8MB RAM is enough with netbsd, and with 
freebsd will be too but i'm not sure FreeBSD can be used on 8MB, for sure it can 
on 16.


i'm using such configurations (486/25 to 50, 8MB RAM) many places. 
hardware was for free.


on machine you specified you may use squid and make your mailserver etc. 
without problems.

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Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration

2007-08-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar



Then my configuration is not minimal I'd say :-)
Thanks.


so make use of it's huge power. first make gateway, then add squid at 
least. possibly mail etc.

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Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration

2007-08-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar

One other question -a bit silly:
If I use that configuration as the gateway, can it be left on and
working 24x7? I mean, regarding the _hardware_, how often does it need
to be powered off: once a day, once a week, ... to prevent hardware
failures such as HDD crash?


actually disks feel better when running 24/7. other elements too.
stable temperature etc...
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Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration

2007-08-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar

You will be pleasantly surprised to find out that with adequate cooling
and a good quality power supply, most standard PCs can go on for ages
without a single problem, no shutdowns, no reboots. A UPS is also


such low end (by today standards) machine is actually better. it rarely 
overheats.

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Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration

2007-08-22 Thread Bahman M.
One other question -a bit silly:
If I use that configuration as the gateway, can it be left on and
working 24x7? I mean, regarding the _hardware_, how often does it need
to be powered off: once a day, once a week, ... to prevent hardware
failures such as HDD crash?

Bahman

On 8/21/07, Bahman M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Note: You need two LAN cards:  One for the outside connection and one
  to your internal network.  (You probably already know that, but since you
  referred to 'LAN Card' in the singular I thought I should mention it
  anyway.)
 
 Yes, the machine has 2 D-Link cards.

  More than enough.
 
  I use a Pentium I @ 133MHz w/ 64MB RAM as a gateway with a faster Internet
  connection (8Mbps down / 1Mbps up) and it has no problem keeping up.
 
  Earlier I had only 512 Kbps connection, and at that time used a 386sx @
  33MHZ w/ 8MB RAM as gateway.  It had no problem handling that speed.
 
 Then my configuration is not minimal I'd say :-)
 Thanks.

 Bahman

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Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration

2007-08-22 Thread Manolis Kiagias


Bahman M. wrote:
 One other question -a bit silly:
 If I use that configuration as the gateway, can it be left on and
 working 24x7? I mean, regarding the _hardware_, how often does it need
 to be powered off: once a day, once a week, ... to prevent hardware
 failures such as HDD crash?

 Bahman


   
You will be pleasantly surprised to find out that with adequate cooling
and a good quality power supply, most standard PCs can go on for ages
without a single problem, no shutdowns, no reboots. A UPS is also
recommended but definitely not required if the machine will not have
mission critical data (as I understand, yours will not have any data at
all...). In fact, from my experience, the 24/7 machines may be more
reliable than others since they will not go the endless power up / down
cycles that actually stresses components, both electronic and mechanical
(like disks). Hard disks mostly wear out from constant head movement and
not just by simply spinning idly. Low load machines, where IO bound
processes are few, will have no problems with disk reliability. Just
test the components (ie memtest, disk surface etc. esp. if old),
install, turn on and forget. FreeBSD will happily do the rest...
forever that is :)
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Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration

2007-08-22 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 04:07:42PM +0330, Bahman M. wrote:
 One other question -a bit silly:
 If I use that configuration as the gateway, can it be left on and
 working 24x7? I mean, regarding the _hardware_, how often does it need
 to be powered off: once a day, once a week, ... to prevent hardware
 failures such as HDD crash?

As long as it doesn't overheat (and as long as you do not care overly much
about increasing the electricity bill) you can pretty much leave it on all
the time.




 
 Bahman
 
 On 8/21/07, Bahman M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Note: You need two LAN cards:  One for the outside connection and one
   to your internal network.  (You probably already know that, but since you
   referred to 'LAN Card' in the singular I thought I should mention it
   anyway.)
  
  Yes, the machine has 2 D-Link cards.
 
   More than enough.
  
   I use a Pentium I @ 133MHz w/ 64MB RAM as a gateway with a faster Internet
   connection (8Mbps down / 1Mbps up) and it has no problem keeping up.
  
   Earlier I had only 512 Kbps connection, and at that time used a 386sx @
   33MHZ w/ 8MB RAM as gateway.  It had no problem handling that speed.
  
  Then my configuration is not minimal I'd say :-)
  Thanks.
 
  Bahman
 
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Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration

2007-08-22 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 04:07:42PM +0330, Bahman M. wrote:

 One other question -a bit silly:
 If I use that configuration as the gateway, can it be left on and
 working 24x7? I mean, regarding the _hardware_, how often does it need
 to be powered off: once a day, once a week, ... to prevent hardware
 failures such as HDD crash?

On average, the less you power it off the better.
Power cycling is more stressful than running.
The exception would be if it is getting too hot while running and
that is a totally different problem, not fixable by powering it off
and on.

jerry

 
 Bahman
 
 On 8/21/07, Bahman M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Note: You need two LAN cards:  One for the outside connection and one
   to your internal network.  (You probably already know that, but since you
   referred to 'LAN Card' in the singular I thought I should mention it
   anyway.)
  
  Yes, the machine has 2 D-Link cards.
 
   More than enough.
  
   I use a Pentium I @ 133MHz w/ 64MB RAM as a gateway with a faster Internet
   connection (8Mbps down / 1Mbps up) and it has no problem keeping up.
  
   Earlier I had only 512 Kbps connection, and at that time used a 386sx @
   33MHZ w/ 8MB RAM as gateway.  It had no problem handling that speed.
  
  Then my configuration is not minimal I'd say :-)
  Thanks.
 
  Bahman
 
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Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration

2007-08-22 Thread Bahman M.
Thank you all! Very surprising! I didn't know that.

Bahman
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Minimal gateway hardware configuration

2007-08-21 Thread Bahman M.
Hi all,

I'd like to setup a small home network therefore I plan to buy an old
(cheap) PC to act as the gateway. The hardware specification is
CPU: Pentium II at 433MHz
RAM: 128MB
HDD: IDE 4GB
LAN Card: D-Link 538FE

Internet connection is a slow one below 512Kbps and there is only one
other node than the gateway in the network.

Is the configuration enough?

Thanks in advance,
Bahman
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Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration

2007-08-21 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 01:32:28PM +0330, Bahman M. wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'd like to setup a small home network therefore I plan to buy an old
 (cheap) PC to act as the gateway. The hardware specification is
 CPU: Pentium II at 433MHz
 RAM: 128MB
 HDD: IDE 4GB
 LAN Card: D-Link 538FE

Note: You need two LAN cards:  One for the outside connection and one 
to your internal network.  (You probably already know that, but since you
referred to 'LAN Card' in the singular I thought I should mention it
anyway.)

 
 Internet connection is a slow one below 512Kbps and there is only one
 other node than the gateway in the network.
 
 Is the configuration enough?

More than enough.

I use a Pentium I @ 133MHz w/ 64MB RAM as a gateway with a faster Internet
connection (8Mbps down / 1Mbps up) and it has no problem keeping up.

Earlier I had only 512 Kbps connection, and at that time used a 386sx @
33MHZ w/ 8MB RAM as gateway.  It had no problem handling that speed.



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Re: Minimal gateway hardware configuration

2007-08-21 Thread Bahman M.
 Note: You need two LAN cards:  One for the outside connection and one
 to your internal network.  (You probably already know that, but since you
 referred to 'LAN Card' in the singular I thought I should mention it
 anyway.)

Yes, the machine has 2 D-Link cards.

 More than enough.

 I use a Pentium I @ 133MHz w/ 64MB RAM as a gateway with a faster Internet
 connection (8Mbps down / 1Mbps up) and it has no problem keeping up.

 Earlier I had only 512 Kbps connection, and at that time used a 386sx @
 33MHZ w/ 8MB RAM as gateway.  It had no problem handling that speed.

Then my configuration is not minimal I'd say :-)
Thanks.

Bahman
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