Need vinum info/advice, fast.

2004-04-21 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
A client has hired me to do some work, part of which is replacing Red 
Hat 9, which is end-of-lifed at the end of this month. I'd convinced him 
to let me install FreeBSD, right up until I told him that - to my 
knowledge - you cannot trivially set up software raid on FreeBSD, during 
install, as you can with Red Hat Linux.

I'm supposed to build the new server tomorrow. *Is* there any way I can 
set up software raid of two ide disks, during install, and for all 
partitions? This is just to mirror the system disk, so that we can avoid 
downtime, and going to backups in case of a disk failure. If it can be 
done, how do I do it? I've never used vinum before, and only know what 
it is, but nothing about it.

I wish I had more than one night to figure this out, but I don't. If it 
isn't FreeBSD, he going to likely want me to install Fedora Core 2 
Linux, instead.

TIA,
-ste
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Re: Need vinum info/advice, fast.

2004-04-21 Thread Bill Moran
Shaun T. Erickson wrote:
A client has hired me to do some work, part of which is replacing Red 
Hat 9, which is end-of-lifed at the end of this month. I'd convinced him 
to let me install FreeBSD, right up until I told him that - to my 
knowledge - you cannot trivially set up software raid on FreeBSD, during 
install, as you can with Red Hat Linux.

I'm supposed to build the new server tomorrow. *Is* there any way I can 
set up software raid of two ide disks, during install, and for all 
partitions? This is just to mirror the system disk, so that we can avoid 
downtime, and going to backups in case of a disk failure. If it can be 
done, how do I do it? I've never used vinum before, and only know what 
it is, but nothing about it.
I believe this is still valid:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum-root.html
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Re: Need vinum info/advice, fast.

2004-04-21 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday, 21 April 2004 at 18:28:47 -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> Shaun T. Erickson wrote:
>> A client has hired me to do some work, part of which is replacing Red
>> Hat 9, which is end-of-lifed at the end of this month. I'd convinced him
>> to let me install FreeBSD, right up until I told him that - to my
>> knowledge - you cannot trivially set up software raid on FreeBSD, during
>> install, as you can with Red Hat Linux.
>>
>> I'm supposed to build the new server tomorrow. *Is* there any way I can
>> set up software raid of two ide disks, during install, and for all
>> partitions? This is just to mirror the system disk, so that we can avoid
>> downtime, and going to backups in case of a disk failure. If it can be
>> done, how do I do it? I've never used vinum before, and only know what
>> it is, but nothing about it.
>
> I believe this is still valid:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum-root.html

I don't see anything incorrect in it.  You may find the description at
http://www.vinumvm.org/cfbsd/vinum.pdf easier to understand.

Greg
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Re: Need vinum info/advice, fast.

2004-04-21 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

On Wednesday, 21 April 2004 at 18:28:47 -0400, Bill Moran wrote:

I believe this is still valid:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum-root.html
Thanks. I just read that chapter, and, while it makes some sense, it 
didn't tell me anything about how to do mirroring during install, or how 
to mirror an existing drive after installation of the OS.

I don't see anything incorrect in it.  You may find the description at
http://www.vinumvm.org/cfbsd/vinum.pdf easier to understand.
Thanks. Will read that now, and then post any questions I have.

I appreciate the rapid responses, guys. :)

-ste
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Re: Need vinum info/advice, fast.

2004-04-21 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum-root.html 

http://www.vinumvm.org/cfbsd/vinum.pdf
Ok. I've read both documents, which were quite educational. Thanks. :)

It seems that what I want to do is install to the first system disk, as 
normally, and then convert that disk to a vinum disk, using the method 
described starting on page 237 of the above vinum.pdf.

The steps aren't entirely clear to me, after that, as to how to make the 
second disk a vinum drive that is a mirror of the first.

Do I just partition it as normally, but saying that the partition types 
are type vinum? Then do I format those new partitions, and then describe 
the volume, plexes and subdisks in the configuration file, adding each 
subdisk to the existing setup so it will mirror? Do I ever even have to 
format thos partitions, or does vinum just recreate the filesystems bit 
by bit?

I'm not sure I'm asking the right questions. Pointers are most welcome. :)

-ste
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Re: Need vinum info/advice, fast.

2004-04-21 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Wednesday, 21 April 2004 at 20:34:38 -0400, Shaun T. Erickson wrote:
>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum-root.html
>
>> http://www.vinumvm.org/cfbsd/vinum.pdf
>
> Ok. I've read both documents, which were quite educational. Thanks. :)
>
> It seems that what I want to do is install to the first system disk, as
> normally, and then convert that disk to a vinum disk, using the method
> described starting on page 237 of the above vinum.pdf.
>
> The steps aren't entirely clear to me, after that, as to how to make the
> second disk a vinum drive that is a mirror of the first.
>
> Do I just partition it as normally, but saying that the partition types
> are type vinum? Then do I format those new partitions, and then describe
> the volume, plexes and subdisks in the configuration file, adding each
> subdisk to the existing setup so it will mirror? Do I ever even have to
> format thos partitions, or does vinum just recreate the filesystems bit
> by bit?
>
> I'm not sure I'm asking the right questions. Pointers are most
> welcome. :)

Page 229, "Adding plexes to an existing volume", tells you what to do.

Greg
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