Re: OT: Cable management
On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 01:38:55PM -0700, Kevin Stevens wrote: If you're new to cable management, remember to tag both ends of the cables BEFORE running them through any conduit. Once they get bundled together in any way, that's all you have to go by. If you do get into a situation where you don't know which cable is which, you can always tone them. It's a PITA and works best wiht two people, but it works. It's not a bad idea to have a toner on hand, because even labeled cables can run into trouble. The ink might rub off, or you might accidentally cut off some excess slack without relableling. -- -- Skylar Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- http://www.cs.earlham.edu/~skylar/ pgprbJ7ofyz0d.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: Cable management
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004, Skylar Thompson wrote: On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 01:38:55PM -0700, Kevin Stevens wrote: If you're new to cable management, remember to tag both ends of the cables BEFORE running them through any conduit. Once they get bundled together in any way, that's all you have to go by. If you do get into a situation where you don't know which cable is which, you can always tone them. It's a PITA and works best wiht two people, but it works. It's not a bad idea to have a toner on hand, because even labeled cables can run into trouble. The ink might rub off, or you might accidentally cut off some excess slack without relableling. A pair of cheap walkie-talkies can also be invaluable for toning out cables unless you love shouting. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``It's time to feed the hogs'' -- Unintended Consequences ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Cable management
On Jun 30, 2004, at 12:46, Bill Campbell wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2004, Skylar Thompson wrote: On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 01:38:55PM -0700, Kevin Stevens wrote: If you're new to cable management, remember to tag both ends of the cables BEFORE running them through any conduit. Once they get bundled together in any way, that's all you have to go by. If you do get into a situation where you don't know which cable is which, you can always tone them. It's a PITA and works best wiht two people, but it works. It's not a bad idea to have a toner on hand, because even labeled cables can run into trouble. The ink might rub off, or you might accidentally cut off some excess slack without relableling. A pair of cheap walkie-talkies can also be invaluable for toning out cables unless you love shouting. Y'all are doing a great job of making my point. ;) KeS ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT: Cable management
Considering this is what I do for a living, the best, and cheapest trick, provided you own a multimeter (or a 9V battery and a flashlight bulb) is to short out one end (for the multimeter part) and set the multimeter for diode/continuity test. If you just have the 9V and bulb, apply the lightbulb to one end and the battery to the other. If the bulb lights, you've got it. At the most, this will cost you a few batteries. You'll know you're on the wrong pair if the battery gets really warm really quick. ;) Otherwise, give me a call (only if you're in Minneapolis) and buy me a beer. I'm willing to relabel and tone for you. HTH Eric F Crist President AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc (612) 998-3588 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Stevens Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 11:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Cable management On Jun 30, 2004, at 12:46, Bill Campbell wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2004, Skylar Thompson wrote: On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 01:38:55PM -0700, Kevin Stevens wrote: If you're new to cable management, remember to tag both ends of the cables BEFORE running them through any conduit. Once they get bundled together in any way, that's all you have to go by. If you do get into a situation where you don't know which cable is which, you can always tone them. It's a PITA and works best wiht two people, but it works. It's not a bad idea to have a toner on hand, because even labeled cables can run into trouble. The ink might rub off, or you might accidentally cut off some excess slack without relableling. A pair of cheap walkie-talkies can also be invaluable for toning out cables unless you love shouting. Y'all are doing a great job of making my point. ;) KeS ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/free bsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Cable management
Bill Sawyer wrote: Jorn Argelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/26 3:25 PM Main point is, I want to get rid of VGA cables, power cables, PS2 cables, USB cables etcetera. So I have more use of a big cable gutter then a patch panel. Jorn, Sounds like you're a good candidate for a KVM switch, if you have more than one computer in the same workspace. I'd recommend looking on eBay for Cybex KVM switches. Bill Sawyer Information Systems Six Flags St. Louis (636) 938-5300 x. 231 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I already have a KVM switch :-) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Cable management
Bill Sawyer wrote: Hey all, I need to come up with a good solution for managing cables. Basically, I've got a $500 budget, and about 26 systems to deal with. I have ten wires that I'll be dealing with. The PC sits on top of the desktop, and cables are fed through a hole in the desk to a power strip on the ground. All the peripherals are also on the desk, and those wires are haphazardly spilling out behind the computer. I know my verbal description won't necessarily help too much when it comes to picking a solution, but I'd like to hear what products and solutions any of you use. Any ideas will be helpful. Thanks, Bill Sawyer Information Systems Six Flags St. Louis (636) 938-5300 x. 231 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Bill, I got a similair problem as you have. Since my sister is moving out of the house I am moving over to her room. Now I reckoned that I should just hang a big cable gutter (gutter, pipe, or however you call those things) right below my desk, and _hopefully_ all the network cables and cables for three PCs fit right in there. If they don't fit all, too bad then, but at least I got a bunch cables away from sight. Anyway, I hope this can help you a bit. Cheers, Jorn ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Cable management
Jorn Argelo writes: Bill Sawyer wrote: Hey all, I need to come up with a good solution for managing cables. Basically, I've got a $500 budget, and about 26 systems to deal with. I have ten wires that I'll be dealing with. The PC sits on top of the desktop, and cables are fed through a hole in the desk to a power strip on the ground. All the peripherals are also on the desk, and those wires are haphazardly spilling out behind the computer. I know my verbal description won't necessarily help too much when it comes to picking a solution, but I'd like to hear what products and solutions any of you use. Any ideas will be helpful. Thanks, Bill Sawyer Information Systems Six Flags St. Louis (636) 938-5300 x. 231 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Bill, I got a similair problem as you have. Since my sister is moving out of the house I am moving over to her room. Now I reckoned that I should just hang a big cable gutter (gutter, pipe, or however you call those things) right below my desk, and _hopefully_ all the network cables and cables for three PCs fit right in there. If they don't fit all, too bad then, but at least I got a bunch cables away from sight. Anyway, I hope this can help you a bit. Cheers, Jorn ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Google/e-bay on structure cabling, patch panels - $100 roughly, nice switches - $100-300 or more. The more expensive are managed and are better: For example Surecom Switch 24Port10/100 2Port10/100/1000, EP-726DG-L, Management is a good one. It costs about 300usd in my country. Check other options from lower classes - pure 10/100mbit managed switches and other vendors also. Pick several kinds of colour duck tape to mark the cables so that you can recognize them easily in the panel and a stand from Home Depot to put the boxes on. If you have place for the boxes, spent the rest of your budget on beverages of your taste. You will need them during your network setup. Enjoy! Dimitar ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Cable management
dvv wrote: Jorn Argelo writes: Bill Sawyer wrote: Hey all, I need to come up with a good solution for managing cables. Basically, I've got a $500 budget, and about 26 systems to deal with. I have ten wires that I'll be dealing with. The PC sits on top of the desktop, and cables are fed through a hole in the desk to a power strip on the ground. All the peripherals are also on the desk, and those wires are haphazardly spilling out behind the computer. I know my verbal description won't necessarily help too much when it comes to picking a solution, but I'd like to hear what products and solutions any of you use. Any ideas will be helpful. Thanks, Bill Sawyer Information Systems Six Flags St. Louis (636) 938-5300 x. 231 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Bill, I got a similair problem as you have. Since my sister is moving out of the house I am moving over to her room. Now I reckoned that I should just hang a big cable gutter (gutter, pipe, or however you call those things) right below my desk, and _hopefully_ all the network cables and cables for three PCs fit right in there. If they don't fit all, too bad then, but at least I got a bunch cables away from sight. Anyway, I hope this can help you a bit. Cheers, Jorn ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Google/e-bay on structure cabling, patch panels - $100 roughly, nice switches - $100-300 or more. The more expensive are managed and are better: For example Surecom Switch 24Port10/100 2Port10/100/1000, EP-726DG-L, Management is a good one. It costs about 300usd in my country. Check other options from lower classes - pure 10/100mbit managed switches and other vendors also. Pick several kinds of colour duck tape to mark the cables so that you can recognize them easily in the panel and a stand from Home Depot to put the boxes on. If you have place for the boxes, spent the rest of your budget on beverages of your taste. You will need them during your network setup. Enjoy! Dimitar ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your advice Dimitar, but I don't have the money, nor am I in need a patch panel or a switch of that budget. I am merely a student who can't afford such equipment. Besides, we just got four PCs in the house here, so I don't really need an entire patch panel for just four PCs ;) Main point is, I want to get rid of VGA cables, power cables, PS2 cables, USB cables etcetera. So I have more use of a big cable gutter then a patch panel. Cheers, Jorn ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Cable management
Jorn Argelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/26 3:25 PM Main point is, I want to get rid of VGA cables, power cables, PS2 cables, USB cables etcetera. So I have more use of a big cable gutter then a patch panel. Jorn, Sounds like you're a good candidate for a KVM switch, if you have more than one computer in the same workspace. I'd recommend looking on eBay for Cybex KVM switches. Bill Sawyer Information Systems Six Flags St. Louis (636) 938-5300 x. 231 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Cable management
On Jun 26, 2004, at 12:44, dvv wrote: Jorn Argelo writes: Google/e-bay on structure cabling, patch panels - $100 roughly, nice switches - $100-300 or more. The more expensive are managed and are better: For example Surecom Switch 24Port10/100 2Port10/100/1000, EP-726DG-L, Management is a good one. It costs about 300usd in my country. Check other options from lower classes - pure 10/100mbit managed switches and other vendors also. Pick several kinds of colour duck tape to mark the cables so that you can recognize them easily in the panel and a stand from Home Depot to put the boxes on. If you have place for the boxes, spent the rest of your budget on beverages of your taste. You will need them during your network setup. Enjoy! Dimitar If you're new to cable management, remember to tag both ends of the cables BEFORE running them through any conduit. Once they get bundled together in any way, that's all you have to go by. KeS ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Cable management
On Jun 26, 2004, at 13:25, Jorn Argelo wrote: Thanks for your advice Dimitar, but I don't have the money, nor am I in need a patch panel or a switch of that budget. I am merely a student who can't afford such equipment. Besides, we just got four PCs in the house here, so I don't really need an entire patch panel for just four PCs ;) Main point is, I want to get rid of VGA cables, power cables, PS2 cables, USB cables etcetera. So I have more use of a big cable gutter then a patch panel. IKEA has some nice cable management stuff for cheap: split conduit, cable bags, small cable reels. All of it cheap, generally well thought out. KeS ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Cable management
Hey all, I need to come up with a good solution for managing cables. Basically, I've got a $500 budget, and about 26 systems to deal with. I have ten wires that I'll be dealing with. The PC sits on top of the desktop, and cables are fed through a hole in the desk to a power strip on the ground. All the peripherals are also on the desk, and those wires are haphazardly spilling out behind the computer. I know my verbal description won't necessarily help too much when it comes to picking a solution, but I'd like to hear what products and solutions any of you use. Any ideas will be helpful. Thanks, Bill Sawyer Information Systems Six Flags St. Louis (636) 938-5300 x. 231 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
