OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?
we had a power out here this morning and besides it costing most of my day, it blew out my Brother laser printer. i just got it working FINALLY with our cups stuff. don't asked me how; other than i was using our olden lpr/lpd and had /etc/printcap. is there a laser other than the brother {tm}? i mean, that the members of this org would go for? tia, gary PS: I THink it may be a fuse--wild guess -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:28:08 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > is there a laser other than the brother {tm}? i mean, that the > members of this org would go for? Yes: Office printers, even used ones are fine. Pay attention that they have: - ethernet port - postscript - if not: PCL I'm using a HP Laserjet 4000 with duplex unit myself for many years now - HAPPILY, as I can honestly admit, and in the past, I've been using a HP Laserjet 4 attached to the parellel port. All those "old" printers work wonderfully using just system tools (lpr), as they speak PS, which is the default output format for printing from any UNIX application. If they don't speak PS or are slow processing it, use apsfilter from ports together with gs (Ghosescript) to make PCL from any input. You can do funny things like add "pretty printing" to any text input (e. g. LaTeX), or even issue "lpr picture.jpg" from the command line. Integration of the system tools to image processing or office software is no problem. Don't mess with USB and inkpee, it will cost you more in the final calculation. I also read that some of the brother printers are quite good, as well as Kyocera, but I don't have own experience with them, so I traditionally suggest getting a HP printer. Office printer. Used office printer. For cheap. Really. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?
On 16.06.2011 08:28, Gary Kline wrote: > > we had a power out here this morning and besides it costing most of > my day, it blew out my Brother laser printer. i just got it working > FINALLY with our cups stuff. don't asked me how; other than i was > using our olden lpr/lpd and had /etc/printcap. > > is there a laser other than the brother {tm}? i mean, that the > members of this org would go for? I'm very happy with my Xerox Phaser 6180 (color), but I've also used the Phaser 3250. Both handle postscript + lpr just fine (and most other standards), and priced affordable. //Svein -- +---+--- /"\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Gary Kline wrote: > > we had a power out here this morning and besides it costing most of > my day, it blew out my Brother laser printer. i just got it working > FINALLY with our cups stuff. don't asked me how; other than i was > using our olden lpr/lpd and had /etc/printcap. > > is there a laser other than the brother {tm}? i mean, that the > members of this org would go for? At home, I'm using an HP LaserJet 1320 over USB on FreeBSD with CUPS. I understand that the networked version would be even easier to install and use, but the 1320 was what I got, and it's okay for light non-commercial use. Of course, with native Postscript support (I've upgraded the RAM on the unit so that it prints very complex graphics faster, but that's not strictly necessary). BTW, I fully agree with Polytropon: those old HP LaserJet 4000s are absolutely GREAT, even if used. It's a shame that they don't make 'em anymore: they were simply too good and didn't comply with the current standard of crappiness, cheap plastics and badly engineered trays etc... so obviously, they had to go. :-( -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Gary Kline wrote: we had a power out here this morning and besides it costing most of my day, it blew out my Brother laser printer. i just got it working FINALLY with our cups stuff. don't asked me how; other than i was using our olden lpr/lpd and had /etc/printcap. is there a laser other than the brother {tm}? i mean, that the members of this org would go for? I prefer used HP business-class lasers with instant-on fusers. http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/usedlasers.html Also, see "lpd Printing With FreeBSD" http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?
On 06/16/11 07:28, Gary Kline wrote: is there a laser other than the brother {tm}? i mean, that the members of this org would go for? It depends how much printing you need it for, so check the manufacturer's specs. I've got a Kyocera FS-C5200DN, which is rated as a workgroup printer good for 1000s of pages a month. It gets used regularly for printing leaflets, brochures, etc in 100s at a time and works out considerably cheaper than Staples or other local copy shops for that sort of thing - below 2p per page ($0.03) for b&w, below 7p ($0.11) for colour according to the reviews. Reasonably fast (except on stuff from the Mac's word processor program for some reason), seems reliable but we've only had it about 8 months so not long enough to see any long term problems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 07:00:30 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: > Also, see "lpd Printing With FreeBSD" > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html It's worth mentioning that real office printers (those that come with Ethernet) traditionally contain their own "lpd subsystem", so you can submit printing jobs directly into the printer and manipulate _that_ queue using the system's lp* tools. This is very comfortable when you have more than one computer in the house. You don't need to mess with silly "drivers", you simply point to the printer's IP. Yes, it _is_ that simple. Now all PCs in the (home) network can send their jobs directly into the printer. Another point is that office hardware, if old enough, lasts nearly forever. I know that my experience is very limited, but the HP Laserjet 4 which I do own for nearly 20 years now is the best example. I got it as a used (!) printer, so I can't tell what the former owner did to it. I did excessively use that printer for many years now, and it is STILL WORKING. I can even get spare parts for that old device if needed. But go ahead, buy a "cheap" USB inkpee printer, and we'll discuss in 20 years if it is still working. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"