OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?

2011-06-15 Thread Gary Kline

we had a power out here this morning and besides it costing most of
my day, it blew out my Brother laser printer.  i just got it working 
FINALLY with our cups stuff.  don't asked me how; other than i was
using our olden lpr/lpd and had /etc/printcap.

is there a laser other than the brother {tm}?  i mean, that the
members of this org would go for?

tia,

gary


PS: I THink it may be a fuse--wild guess



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Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?

2011-06-16 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:28:08 -0700, Gary Kline  wrote:
> is there a laser other than the brother {tm}?  i mean, that the
> members of this org would go for?

Yes: Office printers, even used ones are fine. Pay attention
that they have:
- ethernet port
- postscript
- if not: PCL

I'm using a HP Laserjet 4000 with duplex unit myself for many
years now - HAPPILY, as I can honestly admit, and in the past,
I've been using a HP Laserjet 4 attached to the parellel port.
All those "old" printers work wonderfully using just system
tools (lpr), as they speak PS, which is the default output
format for printing from any UNIX application. If they don't
speak PS or are slow processing it, use apsfilter from ports
together with gs (Ghosescript) to make PCL from any input.
You can do funny things like add "pretty printing" to any
text input (e. g. LaTeX), or even issue "lpr picture.jpg"
from the command line. Integration of the system tools to
image processing or office software is no problem.

Don't mess with USB and inkpee, it will cost you more in the
final calculation.

I also read that some of the brother printers are quite good,
as well as Kyocera, but I don't have own experience with them,
so I traditionally suggest getting a HP printer. Office printer.
Used office printer. For cheap. Really. :-)



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Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?

2011-06-16 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 16.06.2011 08:28, Gary Kline wrote:
> 
> we had a power out here this morning and besides it costing most of
> my day, it blew out my Brother laser printer.  i just got it working 
> FINALLY with our cups stuff.  don't asked me how; other than i was
> using our olden lpr/lpd and had /etc/printcap.
> 
> is there a laser other than the brother {tm}?  i mean, that the
> members of this org would go for?

I'm very happy with my Xerox Phaser 6180 (color), but I've also used the
Phaser 3250. Both handle postscript + lpr just fine (and most other
standards), and priced affordable.

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Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?

2011-06-16 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Gary Kline  wrote:
>
> we had a power out here this morning and besides it costing most of
> my day, it blew out my Brother laser printer.  i just got it working
> FINALLY with our cups stuff.  don't asked me how; other than i was
> using our olden lpr/lpd and had /etc/printcap.
>
> is there a laser other than the brother {tm}?  i mean, that the
> members of this org would go for?

At home, I'm using an HP LaserJet 1320 over USB on FreeBSD
with CUPS. I understand that the networked version would be
even easier to install and use, but the 1320 was what I got, and
it's okay for light non-commercial use. Of course, with native
Postscript support (I've upgraded the RAM on the unit so that
it prints very complex graphics faster, but that's not strictly
necessary).

BTW, I fully agree with Polytropon: those old HP LaserJet 4000s
are absolutely GREAT, even if used. It's a shame that they don't
make 'em anymore: they were simply too good and didn't comply
with the current standard of crappiness, cheap plastics and badly
engineered trays etc... so obviously, they had to go. :-(

-cpghost.

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Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?

2011-06-16 Thread Warren Block

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Gary Kline wrote:


we had a power out here this morning and besides it costing most of
my day, it blew out my Brother laser printer.  i just got it working
FINALLY with our cups stuff.  don't asked me how; other than i was
using our olden lpr/lpd and had /etc/printcap.

is there a laser other than the brother {tm}?  i mean, that the
members of this org would go for?


I prefer used HP business-class lasers with instant-on fusers.
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/usedlasers.html

Also, see "lpd Printing With FreeBSD"
http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html
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Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?

2011-06-16 Thread Arthur Chance

On 06/16/11 07:28, Gary Kline wrote:

is there a laser other than the brother {tm}?  i mean, that the
members of this org would go for?


It depends how much printing you need it for, so check the 
manufacturer's specs. I've got a Kyocera FS-C5200DN, which is rated as a 
workgroup printer good for 1000s of pages a month. It gets used 
regularly for printing leaflets, brochures, etc in 100s at a time and 
works out considerably cheaper than Staples or other local copy shops 
for that sort of thing - below 2p per page ($0.03) for b&w, below 7p 
($0.11) for colour according to the reviews.


Reasonably fast (except on stuff from the Mac's word processor program 
for some reason), seems reliable but we've only had it about 8 months so 
not long enough to see any long term problems.


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Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?

2011-06-16 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 07:00:30 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block  
wrote:
> Also, see "lpd Printing With FreeBSD"
> http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html

It's worth mentioning that real office printers (those that
come with Ethernet) traditionally contain their own "lpd
subsystem", so you can submit printing jobs directly into
the printer and manipulate _that_ queue using the system's
lp* tools.

This is very comfortable when you have more than one computer
in the house. You don't need to mess with silly "drivers", you
simply point to the printer's IP. Yes, it _is_ that simple.
Now all PCs in the (home) network can send their jobs directly
into the printer.

Another point is that office hardware, if old enough, lasts
nearly forever. I know that my experience is very limited,
but the HP Laserjet 4 which I do own for nearly 20 years now
is the best example. I got it as a used (!) printer, so I can't
tell what the former owner did to it. I did excessively use
that printer for many years now, and it is STILL WORKING. I
can even get spare parts for that old device if needed.

But go ahead, buy a "cheap" USB inkpee printer, and we'll
discuss in 20 years if it is still working. :-)


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