Older versions

2003-01-07 Thread lattera
I have a VERY, VERY old laptop (1.9 Megs of memory IBM), and I was wondering 
if I could get FreeBSD 1 for it. If so, where? Thanks! 

lattera

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Re: Older versions

2003-01-07 Thread Andrew Prewett
Today Nathan Kinkade wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 02:30:57PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I have a VERY, VERY old laptop (1.9 Megs of memory IBM), and I was
> > wondering if I could get FreeBSD 1 for it. If so, where? Thanks!
> >
> > lattera
> >
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> What type of processor does it have?  1.9MB of RAM is not very much.
> Even PicoBSD, the single floppy version of FreeBSD, would like to have
> 8MB of memory.  I have serious doubts that you will be able to get
> virtually anything to run in 1.9MB of memory.  I could be wrong, and if
> someone knows of a tiny OS that will run under these conditions I'd be
> curious to know about it.  I have recently been looking around at some
> tiny Linux installations, but even those absolutely require at least 4MB
> of memory.

minix?

from the minix install.txt:
...
1. REQUIREMENTS
   The minimum system MINIX can be installed on comfortably  is
   an  IBM PC/AT or PS/2 with a 286 processor, 640 KB memory, a
   720 kb diskette drive, and 25-30 MB free  space  on  an  AT,
   ESDI, or SCSI hard disk (the latter controlled by an Adaptec
   1540.)  MINIX for the  386  (MINIX-386  for  short)  can  be
   installed on a machine with at least a 386sx processor, 3 MB
   memory and at least 25-30 MB of disk space.
...

-andrew


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Re: Older versions

2003-01-07 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 12:00:02AM +0100, Andrew Prewett wrote:
> Today Nathan Kinkade wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 02:30:57PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I have a VERY, VERY old laptop (1.9 Megs of memory IBM), and I was
> > > wondering if I could get FreeBSD 1 for it. If so, where? Thanks!
> > >
> > > lattera
> > >
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> >
> > What type of processor does it have?  1.9MB of RAM is not very much.
> > Even PicoBSD, the single floppy version of FreeBSD, would like to have
> > 8MB of memory.  I have serious doubts that you will be able to get
> > virtually anything to run in 1.9MB of memory.  I could be wrong, and if
> > someone knows of a tiny OS that will run under these conditions I'd be
> > curious to know about it.  I have recently been looking around at some
> > tiny Linux installations, but even those absolutely require at least 4MB
> > of memory.
> 
> minix?
> 
> from the minix install.txt:
> ...
> 1. REQUIREMENTS
>The minimum system MINIX can be installed on comfortably  is
>an  IBM PC/AT or PS/2 with a 286 processor, 640 KB memory, a
>720 kb diskette drive, and 25-30 MB free  space  on  an  AT,
>ESDI, or SCSI hard disk (the latter controlled by an Adaptec
>1540.)  MINIX for the  386  (MINIX-386  for  short)  can  be
>installed on a machine with at least a 386sx processor, 3 MB
>memory and at least 25-30 MB of disk space.
> ...
> 
>   -andrew

Right, this is why I asked what type of processor he had.  Minix for
i386 wants 3MB - more than he apparently has...unless 1.9 was a type or
I misunderstood.  Thanks for the tip, though.  Although I have questions
about the utility of Minix on a 286 with 640KB RAM, I will nevertheless
take a look a it to see what can be done with such a system.

Thanks,
Nathan


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Re: Older versions

2003-01-07 Thread Andrew Prewett
On Jan 7 Nathan Kinkade wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 12:00:02AM +0100, Andrew Prewett wrote:
> > Today Nathan Kinkade wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 02:30:57PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > I have a VERY, VERY old laptop (1.9 Megs of memory IBM), and I was
> > > > wondering if I could get FreeBSD 1 for it. If so, where? Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > lattera
> > > >
> > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >
> > > What type of processor does it have?  1.9MB of RAM is not very much.
> > > Even PicoBSD, the single floppy version of FreeBSD, would like to have
> > > 8MB of memory.  I have serious doubts that you will be able to get
> > > virtually anything to run in 1.9MB of memory.  I could be wrong, and if
> > > someone knows of a tiny OS that will run under these conditions I'd be
> > > curious to know about it.  I have recently been looking around at some
> > > tiny Linux installations, but even those absolutely require at least 4MB
> > > of memory.
> >
> > minix?
> >
> > from the minix install.txt:
> > ...
> > 1. REQUIREMENTS
> >The minimum system MINIX can be installed on comfortably  is
> >an  IBM PC/AT or PS/2 with a 286 processor, 640 KB memory, a
> >720 kb diskette drive, and 25-30 MB free  space  on  an  AT,
> >ESDI, or SCSI hard disk (the latter controlled by an Adaptec
> >1540.)  MINIX for the  386  (MINIX-386  for  short)  can  be
> >installed on a machine with at least a 386sx processor, 3 MB
> >memory and at least 25-30 MB of disk space.
> > ...
> >
> > -andrew
>
> Right, this is why I asked what type of processor he had.  Minix for
> i386 wants 3MB - more than he apparently has...unless 1.9 was a type or
> I misunderstood.  Thanks for the tip, though.  Although I have questions
> about the utility of Minix on a 286 with 640KB RAM, I will nevertheless
> take a look a it to see what can be done with such a system.

I doesn't read the install.txt carefully, and didn't noticed the 3MB
memory requirements, but on the official minix homepage,
 (http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/minix.html)
the required ram for the 32bit version only 2MB, not 3MB - and 1.9 is
near 2 :-))

-andrew


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Re: Older versions

2003-01-07 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 02:30:57PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a VERY, VERY old laptop (1.9 Megs of memory IBM), and I was 
> wondering if I could get FreeBSD 1 for it. If so, where? Thanks! 
> 
> lattera
> 
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What type of processor does it have?  1.9MB of RAM is not very much.
Even PicoBSD, the single floppy version of FreeBSD, would like to have
8MB of memory.  I have serious doubts that you will be able to get
virtually anything to run in 1.9MB of memory.  I could be wrong, and if
someone knows of a tiny OS that will run under these conditions I'd be
curious to know about it.  I have recently been looking around at some
tiny Linux installations, but even those absolutely require at least 4MB
of memory.

Nathan

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Re: Older versions

2003-01-07 Thread Adam Maas
Slackware 2.x is another possibility. It'll run with 2MB off a alternate set
of boot disks (Included in the install package.)

--Adam

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From: "Andrew Prewett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:00 PM
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> Today Nathan Kinkade wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 02:30:57PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I have a VERY, VERY old laptop (1.9 Megs of memory IBM), and I was
> > > wondering if I could get FreeBSD 1 for it. If so, where? Thanks!
> > >
> > > lattera
> > >
> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
> >
> > What type of processor does it have?  1.9MB of RAM is not very much.
> > Even PicoBSD, the single floppy version of FreeBSD, would like to have
> > 8MB of memory.  I have serious doubts that you will be able to get
> > virtually anything to run in 1.9MB of memory.  I could be wrong, and if
> > someone knows of a tiny OS that will run under these conditions I'd be
> > curious to know about it.  I have recently been looking around at some
> > tiny Linux installations, but even those absolutely require at least 4MB
> > of memory.
>
> minix?
>
> from the minix install.txt:
> ...
> 1. REQUIREMENTS
>The minimum system MINIX can be installed on comfortably  is
>an  IBM PC/AT or PS/2 with a 286 processor, 640 KB memory, a
>720 kb diskette drive, and 25-30 MB free  space  on  an  AT,
>ESDI, or SCSI hard disk (the latter controlled by an Adaptec
>1540.)  MINIX for the  386  (MINIX-386  for  short)  can  be
>installed on a machine with at least a 386sx processor, 3 MB
>memory and at least 25-30 MB of disk space.
> ...
>
> -andrew
>
>
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Re: Older versions

2003-01-07 Thread Brian
1.9 is such an odd total as well, I do not know what to think of that..

Bri

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Re: Older versions

2003-01-08 Thread Kirk Strauser

At 2003-01-08T01:25:32Z, "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 1.9 is such an odd total as well, I do not know what to think of that..

Never owned an Amiga, eh?  You could add RAM in 64KB and 128KB chunks to the
various SCSI cards, motherboard sockets, etc, not to mention using un-paired
SIMMs to get weird memory sizes like 34.5MB.
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Re: Older versions

2003-01-08 Thread Brian
ok, odd for a pc, I've had old legacy stuff before I just wouldve expected
1, 1.384, 1.5, 1,768, or 2, but 1.9, I'd be curious what laptop this is,
knowing that a modest socket7 laptop can be had for about a c note.

Brian

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> At 2003-01-08T01:25:32Z, "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > 1.9 is such an odd total as well, I do not know what to think of that..
>
> Never owned an Amiga, eh?  You could add RAM in 64KB and 128KB chunks to
the
> various SCSI cards, motherboard sockets, etc, not to mention using
un-paired
> SIMMs to get weird memory sizes like 34.5MB.
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Re: Older versions

2003-01-09 Thread Shantanu Mahajan
+++ Nathan Kinkade [freebsd] [07-01-03 14:54 -0800]:
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| What type of processor does it have?  1.9MB of RAM is not very much.
| Even PicoBSD, the single floppy version of FreeBSD, would like to have
| 8MB of memory.  I have serious doubts that you will be able to get
| virtually anything to run in 1.9MB of memory.  I could be wrong, and if
| someone knows of a tiny OS that will run under these conditions I'd be
| curious to know about it.  I have recently been looking around at some
| tiny Linux installations, but even those absolutely require at least 4MB
| of memory.
| 
| Nathan
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maybe any version of DOS?

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Older versions of FreeBSD

2004-12-19 Thread Al Bincarousky
Hello:

I am looking for older versions of FreeBSD. Any version 3.5.1 to 4.4. Is it 
possible to still download these versions? If not can it still be purchased on 
CD? Thank you for any information that you may be able to provide.

Regards,

Al
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Re: Older versions of FreeBSD

2004-12-19 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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Single line paragraph.

On Sunday, 19 December 2004 at 22:33:48 -0500, Al Bincarousky wrote:
>
> I am looking for older versions of FreeBSD. Any version 3.5.1 to
> 4.4. Is it possible to still download these versions? If not can it
> still be purchased on CD? Thank you for any information that you may
> be able to provide.

A lot depends on why you want them.  If you're collecting CDs, then
only the CD will do.  If you want to run them, you should reconsider.
If you're interested in them for academic reasons, you can check out
any version back to 2.0 from CVS.  For reasons related to the USL
wars, the repository for release 1 of FreeBSD isn't available, though
Caldera (now called "SCO") released the license a couple of years ago,
so if you find one, you're now allowed to use it.

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Re: Older versions of FreeBSD

2004-12-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 10:33:48PM -0500, Al Bincarousky wrote:
> Hello:
> 

> I am looking for older versions of FreeBSD. Any version 3.5.1 to
> 4.4. Is it possible to still download these versions? If not can it
> still be purchased on CD? Thank you for any information that you may
> be able to provide.

http://mirrorlist.freebsd.org

Kris

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Aliasing Libraries or Installing Older Versions

2003-03-04 Thread John McClure
Thanks in advance for any help.

Trying to build mod_php4 (version 4.3.1) as a port,
basically not a big deal, BUT ... when I try to add
XSLT support via Sablotron, the Sablotron port builds
nicely from /usr/ports/textproc/sablotron but installs
a version of library that ldconfig -r lists as
lsablot.70.

The mod_php4 build complains (as pasted below) that is
can't find sablot.69. I rebuilt the library cache by
running ldconfig, but it appears that php is looking
specifically for sablot.69 and nothing else.

Can a library be aliased? Or should an older version
be installed? If so, how do I obtain that? Hints?
Suggestions?

* BEGIN ERROR PASTE *

===>   mod_php4-4.3.1 depends on shared library:
sablot.69 - not found
===>Verifying install for sablot.69 in
/usr/ports/textproc/sablotron
===>   Returning to build of mod_php4-4.3.1
Error: shared library "sablot.69" does not exist
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_php4.
*** Error code 1

* END ERROR PASTE 

uname -a *
FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE #0: Wed Oct  9
15:08:34 GMT 2002
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
 i386

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Re: Aliasing Libraries or Installing Older Versions

2003-03-04 Thread Jeff Jirsa
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, John McClure wrote:

> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Trying to build mod_php4 (version 4.3.1) as a port,
> basically not a big deal, BUT ... when I try to add
> XSLT support via Sablotron, the Sablotron port builds
> nicely from /usr/ports/textproc/sablotron but installs
> a version of library that ldconfig -r lists as
> lsablot.70.
>
> The mod_php4 build complains (as pasted below) that is
> can't find sablot.69. I rebuilt the library cache by
> running ldconfig, but it appears that php is looking
> specifically for sablot.69 and nothing else.
>


You should be able to just change the scripts/configure.php appropriately
(Just change the .69 to .70 in ports/www/mod_php4/scripts/configure.php.
diff below for clarity, watch the wrap):

# diff -u scripts/configure.php.orig scripts/configure.php
--- scripts/configure.php.orig  Tue Mar  4 13:45:11 2003
+++ scripts/configure.php   Tue Mar  4 13:45:19 2003
@@ -278,7 +278,7 @@
fi
;;
\"XSLT\")
-   echo "LIB_DEPENDS+= 
sablot.69:\${PORTSDIR}/textproc/sablotron"
+   echo "LIB_DEPENDS+= 
sablot.70:\${PORTSDIR}/textproc/sablotron"
echo "CONFIGURE_ARGS+=--enable-xslt 
--with-xslt-sablot=\${LOCALBASE}"
if [ -z "$XML" ]; then
set $* \"XML\"




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Re: Aliasing Libraries or Installing Older Versions

2003-03-04 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:
[...]
> nicely from /usr/ports/textproc/sablotron but installs
> a version of library that ldconfig -r lists as
> lsablot.70.
> The mod_php4 build complains (as pasted below) that is
> can't find sablot.69. I rebuilt the library cache by
> running ldconfig, but it appears that php is looking
> specifically for sablot.69 and nothing else.
> 
> Can a library be aliased? Or should an older version
> be installed? If so, how do I obtain that? Hints?
> Suggestions?

It sounds like you need to rebuild the mod_php4 port. Somehow, it
found a sablot.69 when it was built, and that's now gone. Rebuilding
it should find the sablot.70 library and use that. I'm not familiar
with either mod php or sablot, so I can't be sure if I'm right, but
that's the general case with libraries missing like that.

  http://www.mired.org/consulting.html
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possbility of a port for older versions of libintl?

2012-06-10 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin

Hey there,

I recently discovered that the vmware-tools package is compiled against 
libintl.so.8 -- yes, this is probably something that should be fixed at 
the vmware level, but VMware's love for FreeBSD isn't there.


As a workaround, it might be useful to have a port which compiles an older 
version of libintl (potential security issues notwithstanding, since it's 
assumed it will only be used by this one tool).


This seems to me to be somewhat *less* destabilizing than the 
commonly-suggested (and perhaps, oft-used) suggestion of symlinking 
/usr/lib/libintl.so.8 --> libintl.so.9


Thoughts?

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Re: possbility of a port for older versions of libintl?

2012-06-11 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:11:43 -0400 (EDT), Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
> As a workaround, it might be useful to have a port which compiles an older 
> version of libintl (potential security issues notwithstanding, since it's 
> assumed it will only be used by this one tool).

Maybe using the port compatx--. (which has
the required lib version you need) in combination with the
ld.so library mapping (see "man libmap.conf") will work?



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