Re: Online school for FreeBSD
herbert langhans writes: > I sign here too - Lucas' Absolute FreeBSD covers practically all > the aspects when you new to Unix. Its a good choice. A seperate > computer for trying out and break'n'reinstall is also a good idea > for a start. > > Its like learning a foreign language. At the beginning you may > wonder how anybody can ever understand this mumbo jumbo. Then you > will get an idea of it and go into an experimental stage where > many things go wrong. And after some years you wonder that there > was a time before where you could not understand such an obvious, > logical concept. For UNIX novices willing to read, I strongly recomment _UNIX System Administration Handbook_ (http://www.amazon.com/UNIX-System-Administration-Handbook-3rd/dp/0130206016/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271073058&sr=1-1). My version, now out of date, covers Solaris, HP-UX, Red Hat, and FreeBSD. It's very readable, and while it doesn't cover everything it teaches enough (including some "how" and "why" to be able to figure things out from the man pages or third-party documentation. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Online school for FreeBSD
I sign here too - Lucas' Absolute FreeBSD covers practically all the aspects when you new to Unix. Its a good choice. A seperate computer for trying out and break'n'reinstall is also a good idea for a start. Its like learning a foreign language. At the beginning you may wonder how anybody can ever understand this mumbo jumbo. Then you will get an idea of it and go into an experimental stage where many things go wrong. And after some years you wonder that there was a time before where you could not understand such an obvious, logical concept. Good luck! herb langhans On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 09:34:59PM -0800, jt wrote: > I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been > trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicated, I > get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good. > > My goal is simply this. I want to open a small business, A server, To lease > out web space, domains, etc etc. I want to start small and possibly expand to > a rack of servers and so on. > > I've been searching all say and cannot find ANY online schools that teach > FreeBSD. From what I understand, FreeBSD is the best for security and > control. I'll be leasing out shell space too so I need security like > sh3lls.net. A company like that is eventually what Id like to accomplish. But > I need to know the ground up. I don't want to trust an employee with root > access to my server. > > I remember seeing a book out there specific to what I'm trying to do. > > Anyway, I hope you can hook me up with a school. Or the proper books anyway. > FreeBSD for dummies or something. > > You guys do excellent work. I hope not only to learn but someday contribute > back to the freebsd community. > > Thanks for you're time. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" -- sprachtraining langhans herbert langhans, warschau http://www.langhans.com.pl herbert dot raimund at gmx dot net +0048 603 341 441 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Online school for FreeBSD
On Sat 10 Apr 2010 at 16:14:36 PDT David Newman wrote: On 4/10/10 3:08 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 09:34:59PM -0800, jt wrote: I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicated, I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good. You can download the book "The Complete FreeBSD" from http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ There is also Absolute FreeBSD http://www.absolutefreebsd.com/ Only available for purchase though. +1 I've found this and other books by Mr. Lucas to be informative, accessible and even entertaining, well worth their price. Yes, I agree. Another good book is Dru Lavigne's _The Best of FreeBSD Basics_. I also like Dru's earlier book _BSD Hacks_. It's not BSD-specific, but the _Unix Power Tools_ book from O'Reilly is packed with lots of interesting tidbits. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Online school for FreeBSD
Sorry David for the mail before, I've got the wrong address! +1 :) I like the books of M.W.Lucas, easy to read, funny and on the other hand they have the needed details about the subject. On 11 April 2010 01:14, David Newman wrote: > On 4/10/10 3:08 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > Roland Smith wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 09:34:59PM -0800, jt wrote: > >> > >>> I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've > >>> been > >>> trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting > >>> complicated, > >>> I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good. > >> > >> You can download the book "The Complete FreeBSD" from > >> http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ > > > > There is also Absolute FreeBSD > > http://www.absolutefreebsd.com/ > > Only available for purchase though. > > +1 > > I've found this and other books by Mr. Lucas to be informative, > accessible and even entertaining, well worth their price. > > dn > > > > > Chris > > ___ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Online school for FreeBSD
On 4/10/10 3:08 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Roland Smith wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 09:34:59PM -0800, jt wrote: >> >>> I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've >>> been >>> trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting >>> complicated, >>> I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good. >> >> You can download the book "The Complete FreeBSD" from >> http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ > > There is also Absolute FreeBSD > http://www.absolutefreebsd.com/ > Only available for purchase though. +1 I've found this and other books by Mr. Lucas to be informative, accessible and even entertaining, well worth their price. dn > > Chris > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Online school for FreeBSD
Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 09:34:59PM -0800, jt wrote: I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicated, I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good. You can download the book "The Complete FreeBSD" from http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ There is also Absolute FreeBSD http://www.absolutefreebsd.com/ Only available for purchase though. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Online school for FreeBSD
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 09:34:59PM -0800, jt wrote: > I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been > trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicated, > I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good. Check out http://www.bsdcertification.org/ > My goal is simply this. I want to open a small business, A server, To lease > out web space, domains, etc etc. I want to start small and possibly expand > to a rack of servers and so on. If you are new to FreeBSD and other UNIX-like systems, you should not begin with starting a business! Learn something about the OS first. Install FreeBSD om your computer and experiment with it. Subscribe to the freebsd-questions mailing list and read through the archives of that mailing list. Install and configure typical server programs; apache, bind, postfix, mysql. Learn about jail(8). Do read the handbook, because it does contain a lot of useful information. > I've been searching all say and cannot find ANY online schools that teach > FreeBSD. Personally, I learned first Linux and then FreeBSD by just installing and using them. I think a lot of people start that way. You can download the book "The Complete FreeBSD" from http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ > But I need to know the ground up. I don't want to trust an > employee with root access to my server. If you have a hosting business, clients might expect support 24 hours a day, 7 days per week. No single person can manage that! Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpYkck7HQ3e9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Online school for FreeBSD
jt writes: > I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've > been trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting > complicated, I get stuck. The handbook don't do a lot of good. > > My goal is simply this. I want to open a small business, A server, > To lease out web space, domains, etc etc. I want to start small and > possibly expand to a rack of servers and so on. While there is applicable information, based on your description I do not believe this is a job the Handbook was ever intended to address. > I've been searching all say and cannot find ANY online schools that > teach FreeBSD. From what I understand, FreeBSD is the best for > security and control. I'll be leasing out shell space too so I need > security like sh3lls.net. A company like that is eventually what Id > like to accomplish. But I need to know the ground up. I don't want > to trust an employee with root access to my server. What is there in what you want to do that is specific to FreeBSD? Based on an uninformed guess, it sounds like 90+ percent of these tasks are UNIX-generic; what's left could easily vary with your unique case and might be best handled to questions to targeted mailing lists. > I remember seeing a book out there specific to what I'm trying to > do. However, if someone _has_ done this having that on the record would be nice. > You guys do excellent work. I hope not only to learn but someday > contribute back to the freebsd community. See? You have already. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Online school for FreeBSD
I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been trying to learn on an off for years but when it starts getting complicated, I get stuck. The handbook don't do allot of good. My goal is simply this. I want to open a small business, A server, To lease out web space, domains, etc etc. I want to start small and possibly expand to a rack of servers and so on. I've been searching all say and cannot find ANY online schools that teach FreeBSD. From what I understand, FreeBSD is the best for security and control. I'll be leasing out shell space too so I need security like sh3lls.net. A company like that is eventually what Id like to accomplish. But I need to know the ground up. I don't want to trust an employee with root access to my server. I remember seeing a book out there specific to what I'm trying to do. Anyway, I hope you can hook me up with a school. Or the proper books anyway. FreeBSD for dummies or something. You guys do excellent work. I hope not only to learn but someday contribute back to the freebsd community. Thanks for you're time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
