PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950
Hi, I have a couple of new Dell PowerEdge 2950 with 16GB RAM and I found the following issue when trying to install FreeBSD. FreeBSD i386 6.4_RELENG === 8 GB RAM: OK except "acpi_alloc_makeop_handler: can't alloc wake memory" corrected with PR 120515 16GB RAM: panic: "pmap_mapdev: could'n allocate kernel vistual memory" when loading miibus 32GB RAM: panic as soon as the kernel loads, cannot read the error message (several pages) FreeBSD i386 7.1 Plain distribution, I have not yet upgraded to RELENG. It reports for each CPU, on GENERIC and PAE kernel: cpu0: on acpi0 est0: on cpu0 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 471b471b0600471b 8 GB RAM: OK 16GB RAM: OK 32GB RAM: panic as soon as the kernel loads I got the 32GB RAM by combining the memory from both servers. I'd prefer using legacy kernel (6.4) but I beleive 7.1 is OK too. One of the server will not be installed for a while and I could run test on it if I am directed what to doo. I can repost to a more appropriate list if I am told what list would be the best. TIA, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > I have a couple of new Dell PowerEdge 2950 with 16GB RAM and I found > the following issue when trying to install FreeBSD. > > FreeBSD i386 6.4_RELENG > === > > 8 GB RAM: OK except "acpi_alloc_makeop_handler: can't alloc wake > memory" corrected with PR 120515 > > 16GB RAM: panic: "pmap_mapdev: could'n allocate kernel vistual memory" > when loading miibus > > 32GB RAM: panic as soon as the kernel loads, cannot read the error > message (several pages) > > FreeBSD i386 7.1 > > > Plain distribution, I have not yet upgraded to RELENG. > > It reports for each CPU, on GENERIC and PAE kernel: > >cpu0: on acpi0 >est0: on cpu0 >est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. >est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 471b471b0600471b > > 8 GB RAM: OK > > 16GB RAM: OK > > 32GB RAM: panic as soon as the kernel loads > > I got the 32GB RAM by combining the memory from both servers. > > I'd prefer using legacy kernel (6.4) but I beleive 7.1 is OK too. > > One of the server will not be installed for a while and I could run > test on it if I am directed what to doo. > > I can repost to a more appropriate list if I am told what list would > be the best. > Hmm, while not adding any value, I thank God you started off this thread. I have two of those I should be installing any time now. However, I am going to use 7.1-STABLE on them. I see no reason why you should run 6.4 at all though. What's your motivation towards thaat angle? I suggest you install the 7.1 and update it to -STABLE then see if anything changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the magic word from the dedicated developers. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950
I see no reason why you should run 6.4 at all though. What's your motivation towards thaat angle? I suggest you install the 7.1 and update it to -STABLE then see if anything changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the magic word from the dedicated developers. -- why not simply use /amd64? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Wojciech Puchar < woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > >> I see no reason why you should run 6.4 at all though. What's your >> motivation >> towards thaat angle? >> >> I suggest you install the 7.1 and update it to -STABLE then see if >> anything >> changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the magic word >> from the dedicated developers. >> >> >> -- >> > why not simply use /amd64? You mean he changes the CPU? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950
anything changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the magic word from the dedicated developers. -- why not simply use /amd64? You mean he changes the CPU? it's that CPU 64-bit capable? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Remorque wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Wojciech Puchar < > woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > > > > >> I see no reason why you should run 6.4 at all though. What's your > >> motivation > >> towards thaat angle? > >> > >> I suggest you install the 7.1 and update it to -STABLE then see if > >> anything > >> changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the magic > word > >> from the dedicated developers. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > > why not simply use /amd64? > > > You mean he changes the CPU? > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a > baby." > - Natalie Wood > All CPUs generally shipped from Dell anymore are 64bit capable. Do you have the original specs (take the service tag, go to dell support -> warranty -> original system config) and paste that. It gives chip IDs that we can use online to see if it's amd64 capable. Good luck. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Remorque wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Wojciech Puchar < > woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > > > > >> I see no reason why you should run 6.4 at all though. What's your > >> motivation > >> towards thaat angle? > >> > >> I suggest you install the 7.1 and update it to -STABLE then see if > >> anything > >> changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the magic > word > >> from the dedicated developers. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > > why not simply use /amd64? > > > You mean he changes the CPU? > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a > baby." > - Natalie Wood > All CPUs generally shipped from Dell anymore are 64bit capable. Do you have the original specs (take the service tag, go to dell support -> warranty -> original system config) and paste that. It gives chip IDs that we can use online to see if it's amd64 capable. Good luck. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950
Hi, > However, I am going to use 7.1-STABLE on them. > > I see no reason why you should run 6.4 at all though. What's your > motivation towards thaat angle? > > I suggest you install the 7.1 and update it to -STABLE then see if > anything changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for > the magic word from the dedicated developers. With some delay in the reply: for a production server I try to keep with the legacy version of FreeBSD. And I stick to RELENG, not STABLE, because I want to patch security bugs, but I most probably does not need all the new bells and whistles of STABLE: this is a production server, I prefer to modify the machine as least as possible, unless it is expressely needed by a secuity issue (I won't apply security patches if they are not pertinent to a specific server and the services running on that machine). Bests, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950
Olivier Nicole wrote: [snip] > > And I stick to RELENG, not STABLE, because I want to patch security > bugs, but I most probably does not need all the new bells and whistles > of STABLE: this is a production server, I prefer to modify the machine > as least as possible, unless it is expressely needed by a secuity > issue (I won't apply security patches if they are not pertinent to a > specific server and the services running on that machine). > > Bests, > > Olivier I am of the same bent. For many security issues that do not mandate a reboot I just apply the patches following the instructions in the security advisory. 32 bit drivers such as NVidia on a desktop box mean you're stuck with i386. These same drivers usually have problems with PAE kernels as well. In the server world you are better off not running a PAE kernel. PAE is kludge and a true 64 bit implementation will give you better performance. The thing to watch out here would be a controller driver based on a binary blob. How it was originally built by the mfr can cause trouble in a mix-n- match environment. I believe most controller drivers these days are OK on 64 bit platforms, it is just a detail to keep an eye out on. But - PAE is something better done away with and relegated to history. Just my $.02 -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950
Hi, > > > why not simply use /amd64? > > You mean he changes the CPU? > All CPUs generally shipped from Dell anymore are 64bit capable. Do you have > the original specs (take the service tag, go to dell support -> warranty -> > original system config) and paste that. It gives chip IDs that we can use > online to see if it's amd64 capable. It seems that amd64 is not only for CPU's manufactured by AMD, but it can be used on 64 bits Intels too. Well I am just trying and so far it installed. But that name amd64 is missleading, to say the least. Bests, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950
Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > >> > > why not simply use /amd64? >> > You mean he changes the CPU? >> All CPUs generally shipped from Dell anymore are 64bit capable. Do you >> have the original specs (take the service tag, go to dell support -> >> warranty -> >> original system config) and paste that. It gives chip IDs that we can >> use online to see if it's amd64 capable. > > It seems that amd64 is not only for CPU's manufactured by AMD, but it > can be used on 64 bits Intels too. > > Well I am just trying and so far it installed. > > But that name amd64 is missleading, to say the least. > [snip] Yes - it has been somewhat of a small source of confusion. The reason it had the name amd64 attached is it was AMD that first developed the x86-64 extensions. Intel soon followed suit when it became apparent that their IA64 architecture was not going to supplant x86. They named their version EMT64. FreeBSD simply used the amd64 wrt it's naming scheme to give proper credit where due, e.g, to the inventor/originator. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
