PAE or 64bit?

2008-08-20 Thread B. Cook

hey all,

Looking for opinions..

We are going to be getting a server for drupal, running lighttpd and  
php, as well as exim and SA with clamav, courier or dovecot, mysql  
51.. etc.


Right now this setup does about 200G per month (we have two boxes) and  
were looking at getting one box to do it all (business department  
reasons) and assuming it would be doing double the work.. we would be  
looking at a single box running 600GB max per month in traffic (about  
2Mb/sec)..


We would be (hopefully) be going with sas drives instead of the sata  
we have atm.  Not trying to make this a debate about hardware but..


The question of at least 4G of ram came up.. and we starting debating  
about PAE or just going with x64..


we would not be using zfs, we would be running RELENG_7_0.

again, looking for opinions on PAE vs x64 for this type of setup.

Thanks in advance
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Re: PAE or 64bit?

2008-08-20 Thread Michael Powell
B. Cook wrote:

 hey all,
 
 Looking for opinions..
 
 We are going to be getting a server for drupal, running lighttpd and
 php, as well as exim and SA with clamav, courier or dovecot, mysql
 51.. etc.
 
 Right now this setup does about 200G per month (we have two boxes) and
 were looking at getting one box to do it all (business department
 reasons) and assuming it would be doing double the work.. we would be
 looking at a single box running 600GB max per month in traffic (about
 2Mb/sec)..
 
 We would be (hopefully) be going with sas drives instead of the sata
 we have atm.  Not trying to make this a debate about hardware but..
 
 The question of at least 4G of ram came up.. and we starting debating
 about PAE or just going with x64..
 
 we would not be using zfs, we would be running RELENG_7_0.
 
 again, looking for opinions on PAE vs x64 for this type of setup.
 
 Thanks in advance

PAE is slow, buggy, and kludge. My choice would be 64 bit and don't look
back.

-Mike



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Re: PAE or 64bit?

2008-08-20 Thread Josef Grosch
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 06:04:27PM -0400, B. Cook wrote:
 hey all,
 
 Looking for opinions..
 
 We are going to be getting a server for drupal, running lighttpd and  
 php, as well as exim and SA with clamav, courier or dovecot, mysql  
 51.. etc.
 
 Right now this setup does about 200G per month (we have two boxes) and  
 were looking at getting one box to do it all (business department  
 reasons) and assuming it would be doing double the work.. we would be  
 looking at a single box running 600GB max per month in traffic (about  
 2Mb/sec)..
 
 We would be (hopefully) be going with sas drives instead of the sata  
 we have atm.  Not trying to make this a debate about hardware but..
 
 The question of at least 4G of ram came up.. and we starting debating  
 about PAE or just going with x64..
 
 we would not be using zfs, we would be running RELENG_7_0.
 
 again, looking for opinions on PAE vs x64 for this type of setup.
 
 Thanks in advance


In my experience, PAE is brittle and has limited driver support. I'm just
not a fan of it, I prefer 64 bit. In the long run 64 bit is the path of
least resistance but your mileage may vary.



Josef

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Re: PAE or 64bit?

2008-08-20 Thread Kris Kennaway

B. Cook wrote:

hey all,

Looking for opinions..

We are going to be getting a server for drupal, running lighttpd and 
php, as well as exim and SA with clamav, courier or dovecot, mysql 51.. 
etc.


Right now this setup does about 200G per month (we have two boxes) and 
were looking at getting one box to do it all (business department 
reasons) and assuming it would be doing double the work.. we would be 
looking at a single box running 600GB max per month in traffic (about 
2Mb/sec)..


We would be (hopefully) be going with sas drives instead of the sata we 
have atm.  Not trying to make this a debate about hardware but..


The question of at least 4G of ram came up.. and we starting debating 
about PAE or just going with x64..


we would not be using zfs, we would be running RELENG_7_0.

again, looking for opinions on PAE vs x64 for this type of setup.


PAE would only be of potential benefit if you know you are running a 
workload that will benefit from running in 32-bit mode instead of 64. 
In your situation that is almost certainly not the case, so just go with 
amd64.


Kris
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