Compatible Wi-Fi card mini PCI-Express
Hello friends, I am looking for a FreeBSD compatible card in Mini PCI-Express. I know that the hardware list provides a lot of links, but since there are many providers, I thought It could be faster to ask the mailing list directly. This will be used as an AP in a pfSense appliance (for testing purposes) and might be deployed in larger scale deployment if testing is ok… So I'd rather use very good quality "branded" hardware. Could be 802.11 G. Sincerely yours. –– -> Grégory Bernard Director <- ---> www.osnet.eu <--- --> Your provider of OpenSource appliances <-- –– OSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetOSnetO ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Support AMD Bulldozer, Raid0 on SSD SATA3, Raid0 on SSD PCI-Express 2.0 (3.0)
Hello! Tell me about PC-BSD9.0, please: 1 Support for AMD Bulldozer 2 Raid 0 (for SATA3, PCIExpress 2.0 (3.0) Thank you! Victor. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Pci express ZFS card?
At 22:27 23/09/2011, Outback Dingo wrote: On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Joseph Lenox wrote: > > I would posit that it is only for use as on a PCI Express backplane; I don't > even see how it would fit in a standard PCI Express slot (seeing as the > backplane connector is physically longer than the PCI Express connector). > Moreover, the card itself looks like a system-on-a-board (a complete > computer system on a single mainboard). > This is definatley a backplane SBC designed system, and will not work in a standard motherboard, seems to me what he really wants is like an OCZ revo drive, or Fusion IO card I'm playing with the card, and it has a PCIe x4. I haven't tried to put it on a server, but FreeBSD 8.2 runs perfectly (for now) on it with 3 disks and connect by ethernet interfaces. I don' want to try connect this card to a server PCIe x4 slot before know that it's 120% safe. The card has 2 connectors on basement, a PCI one and a PCIe x4 but don't explain if it's host only or host-slave or slave only. I want a raid card with zfs instead closed source hardware raid. If raid card brokes i will need exactly the same card with the same firmware and other minor requierements for recover the raid. Using a zfs raidz i simply need to connect the disks to a freebsd server and recover it. I'll try to contact vendor again to get more info on this topic. Thanks to both. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Pci express ZFS card?
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Joseph Lenox wrote: > On 09/21/2011 09:16 AM, Eduardo Morras wrote: >> >> Hi, i have this used pci express industrial card (PCIe 2.0 x4) with 1GB: >> >> >> http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=1101&cid=08141333914287007902&id=0A263601401161285688 >> >> I want to install a NanoBSD with ZFS and 3 Sata disks. Unfortunately i >> know nothing about this topic. Does anynone know if this type of cards can >> be connected to a server? Can i access the zfs raidz on it througth the pci >> express interface? >> >> The card documentation says nothing about its use on normal pc as >> expansion card, only on pci express backplanes. >> >> TIA > > I would posit that it is only for use as on a PCI Express backplane; I don't > even see how it would fit in a standard PCI Express slot (seeing as the > backplane connector is physically longer than the PCI Express connector). > Moreover, the card itself looks like a system-on-a-board (a complete > computer system on a single mainboard). > This is definatley a backplane SBC designed system, and will not work in a standard motherboard, seems to me what he really wants is like an OCZ revo drive, or Fusion IO card > --Joseph Lenox > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Pci express ZFS card?
On 09/21/2011 09:16 AM, Eduardo Morras wrote: Hi, i have this used pci express industrial card (PCIe 2.0 x4) with 1GB: http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=1101&cid=08141333914287007902&id=0A263601401161285688 I want to install a NanoBSD with ZFS and 3 Sata disks. Unfortunately i know nothing about this topic. Does anynone know if this type of cards can be connected to a server? Can i access the zfs raidz on it througth the pci express interface? The card documentation says nothing about its use on normal pc as expansion card, only on pci express backplanes. TIA I would posit that it is only for use as on a PCI Express backplane; I don't even see how it would fit in a standard PCI Express slot (seeing as the backplane connector is physically longer than the PCI Express connector). Moreover, the card itself looks like a system-on-a-board (a complete computer system on a single mainboard). --Joseph Lenox ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Pci express ZFS card?
Hi, i have this used pci express industrial card (PCIe 2.0 x4) with 1GB: http://www.ieiworld.com/product_groups/industrial/content.aspx?gid=1101&cid=08141333914287007902&id=0A263601401161285688 I want to install a NanoBSD with ZFS and 3 Sata disks. Unfortunately i know nothing about this topic. Does anynone know if this type of cards can be connected to a server? Can i access the zfs raidz on it througth the pci express interface? The card documentation says nothing about its use on normal pc as expansion card, only on pci express backplanes. TIA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
X.21 PCI Express Cards for FreeBSD 7 or later
Does anybody know of a X.21 (PCI Express From factor) card that works under FBSD7 or later. It is quite hard to figure out from the hardware/release notes. Thanx Riaan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RTL8168/8111 PCI express support
Hi all, I got a computer with a RTL8168/8111 PCI Express nic. It is shown in pciconf but it is not seen by FreeBSD 7. I'm using i386 arch. I have re and rl drivers compiled in the kernel (stock GENERIC kernel, actually). What do I need to make the NIC work properly? I tried to compile the Realtek modified driver but I got a bunch of errors when I tried to compile it (tested up to FreeBSD 6.0 only) Does this[1] anything to do with my problem? Thanks in advance. [1]http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.stable/browse_thread/thread/aa93c58a9353ea1c ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
PCI-express Programming
Hi, Where can I find information on writing device driver for PCI-express hardware on FreeBSD? Regards Ben Ultra Electronics Sonar and Communications Systems Birdport Road Greenford Middlesex UB6 8UA England Direct Line +44 (0)20 8813 4534 Switch Board +44 (0)20 8813 4567 Fax +44 (0)20 8813 4568 This e-mail from Ultra Electronics Limited and any attachments to it are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be privileged. If you have received it in error please notify the sender and delete it from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or distribute its contents to any other person. All communications may be subject to interception or monitoring for operational and/or security purposes. Please rely on your own virus checking as the sender cannot accept any liability for any damage arising from any bug or virus infection. Ultra Electronics Limited is a company registered in England and Wales, registration number 2830644. The address of its registered office is 417 Bridport Road, Greenford, Middlesex, UB6 8UA. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is PCI Express x16 compatible with x4?
Alexander Anderson wrote: I'm thinking of buying a PCI-e x4 RAID controller and I'm wondering if my motherboard with its PCI-e x16 slots would support it? The controller card is HighPoint RocketRAID 2320: http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA/rr2320.htm The motherboard is Intel D975XBX2: http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/d975xbx2/index.htm Will these two get along with other? Thank you. x4 and x16 should have different slot sizes, but if memory serves me correctly the x4 is modular and fits within the x16 slot. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Is PCI Express x16 compatible with x4?
I'm thinking of buying a PCI-e x4 RAID controller and I'm wondering if my motherboard with its PCI-e x16 slots would support it? The controller card is HighPoint RocketRAID 2320: http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA/rr2320.htm The motherboard is Intel D975XBX2: http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/d975xbx2/index.htm Will these two get along with other? Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Supported PCI Express x1 Ethernet Cards
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:51:38 -0700, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: >Does anyone have a suggestion for a supported 10/100/1000 PCI Express x1 >ethernet card supported under 6.1? There are Intel and bge nics that I have used. The Intels are more common and work best I find. ---Mike Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 [EMAIL PROTECTED], (http://www.tancsa.com) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Supported PCI Express x1 Ethernet Cards
On 4/20/07, Don O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does anyone have a suggestion for a supported 10/100/1000 PCI Express x1 ethernet card supported under 6.1? Thanks! The Intel PRO/1000 pci-e is supported afaik. It uses the em driver, and at least hhe pci one works like a charm. HTH //Niclas -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Supported PCI Express x1 Ethernet Cards
Does anyone have a suggestion for a supported 10/100/1000 PCI Express x1 ethernet card supported under 6.1? Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Dual DVI, PCI-Express, xorg and FreeBSD
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 10:35:14AM -0700, Kelsey Cummings wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a PCI Express graphics card with functional dual DVI > output on FreeBSD for use with X to drive a pair of 1600x1200 displays? I > don't care at all about 3d performance. Just something that works. I just got a cheap MSI card: http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=NX7600GS-T2D256E&class=vga Works fine on a pair of 1600x1200 LCDs with either of the nvidia drivers available (default or from ports). I'm not using its TV-out or any of the crazy nvidia options, but the card definitely works. $154 Cdn. You can probably find it cheaper South of the border. p -- Paul Chvostek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> it.canadahttp://www.it.ca/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Dual DVI, PCI-Express, xorg and FreeBSD
Kelsey Cummings wrote: Can anyone recommend a PCI Express graphics card with functional dual DVI output on FreeBSD for use with X to drive a pair of 1600x1200 displays? I don't care at all about 3d performance. Just something that works. Mine is working fine - Radeon X300 (RV370) 5B60 (PCIE)" (ChipID = 0x5b60). -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Dual DVI, PCI-Express, xorg and FreeBSD
Can anyone recommend a PCI Express graphics card with functional dual DVI output on FreeBSD for use with X to drive a pair of 1600x1200 displays? I don't care at all about 3d performance. Just something that works. -K ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: PCI Express
On Mon, 1 May 2006 09:30:11 +0200 "marco\.borsatino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After a succesful installation on an AMD64, I started configuring X > environment; I use an ATI Radeon X700Super PCI Express, which is > not listed by "xorgconfig"; I got help from an italian FreeBSD > user, and I modified "xorg.conf". When I startx I get this error: > > (WW) RADEON: No matching device section for instance (BusID > PCI:1:0:1) found (EE) No device detected > Fatal server error: > no screens found > > > This is a part of my xorg.conf, modified according to the > suggestions of the italian user. > > > Section "Device" > Identifier "ATI" > Driver "radeon" > #ChipID Ox5549 > VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" > BoardName "RV410 [Radeon X700 (PCIE)]" > #Option "EnablePageFlip" "true" > #Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" > #Option "AGPFastWrite" "true" > #Option "AGPMode" "8" > #VideoRam 524288 > BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "ATI2" > Driver "radeon" > #ChipID 0x5549 > VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" > BoardName "RV410 [Radeon X700 (PCIE)]" > Option "BusType" "PCIE" > #Option "MonitorLayout" "TMDS" > BusID "PCI:1:0:1" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen 1" > Device "ATI" > Monitor "m" > DefaultDepth 24 > > Subsection "Display" > Depth 8 > Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > Subsection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > ViewPort0 0 > EndSubsection > EndSection > --- > > BusID definitions comes from "/var/log/Xorg.0.log". > Any idea? I would see what X -configure kicks out and base it off of that. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
PCI Express
After a succesful installation on an AMD64, I started configuring X environment; I use an ATI Radeon X700Super PCI Express, which is not listed by "xorgconfig"; I got help from an italian FreeBSD user, and I modified "xorg.conf". When I startx I get this error: (WW) RADEON: No matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found (EE) No device detected Fatal server error: no screens found This is a part of my xorg.conf, modified according to the suggestions of the italian user. Section "Device" Identifier "ATI" Driver "radeon" #ChipID Ox5549 VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "RV410 [Radeon X700 (PCIE)]" #Option "EnablePageFlip" "true" #Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" #Option "AGPFastWrite" "true" #Option "AGPMode" "8" #VideoRam 524288 BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "ATI2" Driver "radeon" #ChipID 0x5549 VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "RV410 [Radeon X700 (PCIE)]" Option "BusType" "PCIE" #Option "MonitorLayout" "TMDS" BusID "PCI:1:0:1" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 1" Device "ATI" Monitor "m" DefaultDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection --- BusID definitions comes from "/var/log/Xorg.0.log". Any idea? Thanks. Marco ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: PCI Express 1x NIC
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:12:30 +0100, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions
you wrote:
>Hello.
>I'v got an MB which is going to run 6.0/AMD64. It features a "PCI
>Express x1" slot.
>Has anyone had any experience with such a NIC? Altought this is gonna be
>Gigabit, I'm more insterested in stability than in performance.
>
>Also, slightly OT, is PCI-Express aka PCI-X? Or is it PCI-E? None of the
>two? :)
For PCI-E, I am using a Broadcom unit that works well under RELENG_6
bge0: mem
0xfddf-0xfddf irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci2
miibus0: on bge0
brgphy0: on miibus0
brgphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
1000baseTX-FDX, auto
bge0: Ethernet address: 00:10:18:14:15:43
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x167714e4 chip=0x167714e4
rev=0x01 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
device = 'BCM5750A1 NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express'
class= network
subclass = ethernet
Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net
Providing Internet Access since 1994
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Re: PCI Express 1x NIC
> Derek Ragona wrote: >> PCI Express is NOT PCI-X >> >> PCI-X is larger slot usually running faster at 66MHz vs. standard PCI at >> 33MHz. PCI-X is found mostly on server motherboards. >> >> PCI Express is a small connector found on primarily desktop >> motherboards. > > Ok, thanks a lot. > So, does PCI Express=PCI-E hold? > Which speed can it attain? > > Is it supported? > Any NIC reccomendations? > > bye & Thanks > av. PCI-X can run at 100 and 133mhz but PCI-Express is bonded channels. For instance a PCI-E 1x (1 channel)would be able to move half the data in a given time as a 2x (2 channels)slot. The 1x or 2x channels still operate at the same speed. PCI-E is a whole new technology and rethinking of busses. As far as a recommendation for NIC's, Intel is the one to beat but they are pricey. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: PCI Express 1x NIC
Derek Ragona wrote: PCI Express is NOT PCI-X PCI-X is larger slot usually running faster at 66MHz vs. standard PCI at 33MHz. PCI-X is found mostly on server motherboards. PCI Express is a small connector found on primarily desktop motherboards. Ok, thanks a lot. So, does PCI Express=PCI-E hold? Which speed can it attain? Is it supported? Any NIC reccomendations? bye & Thanks av. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: PCI Express 1x NIC
> Hello. > I'v got an MB which is going to run 6.0/AMD64. It features a "PCI > Express x1" slot. > Has anyone had any experience with such a NIC? Altought this is gonna be > Gigabit, I'm more insterested in stability than in performance. > > Also, slightly OT, is PCI-Express aka PCI-X? Or is it PCI-E? None of the > two? :) > > bye & Thanks > av. PCI-X is a parallel bus at 100 or 133mhz PCI-Express is a newer serialized bus with the capabilities of bonding more channels. It comes in the following flavors 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x, 16x, 32x, and 64x. In testing Raid on ROMB devices we found large increases in performance using PCI-Express over older technologies. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: PCI Express 1x NIC
PCI Express is NOT PCI-X PCI-X is larger slot usually running faster at 66MHz vs. standard PCI at 33MHz. PCI-X is found mostly on server motherboards. PCI Express is a small connector found on primarily desktop motherboards. -Derek At 10:12 AM 3/2/2006, Andrea Venturoli wrote: Hello. I'v got an MB which is going to run 6.0/AMD64. It features a "PCI Express x1" slot. Has anyone had any experience with such a NIC? Altought this is gonna be Gigabit, I'm more insterested in stability than in performance. Also, slightly OT, is PCI-Express aka PCI-X? Or is it PCI-E? None of the two? :) bye & Thanks av. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
PCI Express 1x NIC
Hello. I'v got an MB which is going to run 6.0/AMD64. It features a "PCI Express x1" slot. Has anyone had any experience with such a NIC? Altought this is gonna be Gigabit, I'm more insterested in stability than in performance. Also, slightly OT, is PCI-Express aka PCI-X? Or is it PCI-E? None of the two? :) bye & Thanks av. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Does FreeBSD 6.0 fully support PCI-Express?
>-Original Message- >From: Micah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 8:11 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Hans Nieser; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD 6.0 fully support PCI-Express? > > >> >> Micah, if this has changed, please cite where. I myself also >happen to >> have a system with an onboard nvidia card so I really am interested, >> not just trying to flame-bait. > >I think I understand your claim. Source code with an open source >license is not Open Source unless it is actively maintained by someone >and has freely available specs. No, not exactly. This is a special case with device drivers. A simple standalone program that does not interface with hardware, if it's source is open with an open source license, it's open source, even if it is not actively maintained, and even if nobody has published a flowchart or logic diagram that indicates how the code works. Such a program can be modified or maintained by anyone, if they are competent enough. But device drivers are different cases, because even if the source is open, and licensed as open, unless you are able to determine how the hardware works from looking at the source code, it really isn't open source because nobody can modify it. Nobody that is, except someone who has the hardware technical documentation. And that documentation is not something Nvidia gives out, even under NDA. The author of NV, Mark, is an Nvidia employee, so he has access to this data and can modify the driver. But nobody else can modify the driver who doesen't work for Nvidia. Thus it's immaterial - for a device driver - if source is open or not or source is licensed as open source or not, because other people are prevented from working on the driver. It would be like if I patented a software algorithim and released "open source" for it, then started suing everyone for patent violations who simply used that source. (NOT copyright violations) Kind of like Unisys and the .gif file format. >Under that criteria, I guess NV isn't >open source. > There's an open source organization which is trying to establish branding on the name "open source" who has a bunch of criterian that they claim a program license must meet to be termed "open source" I don't hold with that, but if you do I do not think that the source for the nv driver meets their criterian either. I view a program as being open source based on what the copyright holder intends with it. For example, I don't have a problem with a copyright holder claiming copyright on a program then writing a license that only permits people to download the source and compile it and use it in their own projects, or for custom projects they are doing for other people, but prohibits people from compiling binaries of the program then selling those binaries as standalone programs, or using the source in software that they are selling standalone binaries of. To me, that is "open source" but to a lot of people it isn't. To GNU it isn't, but rather than writing a license that bars selling software, they wrote a license that requires source to be provided if you do sell the software, in the hopes that this would kill enthusiasm among people for selling open source. Goals of GNU and the hypothetical copyright holder are the same, but approach to that goal is different - thus GNU claims it's own stuff is open source and the hypothetical copyright holders stuff isn't. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Does FreeBSD 6.0 fully support PCI-Express?
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Micah, Would you please list a cite that the nv driver is open source? > There is also another site here: http://news.com.com/2061-10795_3-5762319.html > although I will admit this is 5 months old - please cite a more recent article where nvidia has reversed their policy? As Mike Harris eloquently said a couple years ago: Nvidia doesn't release their technical specifications for their hardware to *anyone*, not even under NDA (non-disclosure agreements). One might be tempted to think "well you have the source code though right?", however the source code isn't enough. None of the video hardware registers are documented, instead they are programmed as a series of random "magic" numbers, so you have absolutely no idea what the purpose of a given register is, that is getting written seemingly random information into it in the driver. The driver is for all intents and purposes obfuscated unless you have the hardware documentation which turns numbers like 0x3432 into a useful name like NVIDIA_SUCH_AND_SUCH_REGISTER with documentation of WTH that register actually does. That's the long story, the short story is, that even though the "nv" driver is open source, it is more or less supplied as-is and the only way it gets updated is if Nvidia updates it, because nobody outside Nvidia has the foggiest clue how their hardware works. So if a card isn't supported, that's unfortunate. If 2D doesn't work, that's also unfortunate. By reporting bugs that occur in the "nv" driver to http://bugs.xfree86.org, the bug report will get assigned to Mark Vojkovich, who is the official driver maintainer, working at Nvidia, who has access to pretty much every Nvidia card ever made, and the technical specifications to go along with them. If he can't fix the bug, then more or less, nobody can. Not without getting hired by Nvidia to work on the 'nv' driver. ;o) Micah, if this has changed, please cite where. I myself also happen to have a system with an onboard nvidia card so I really am interested, not just trying to flame-bait. I think I understand your claim. Source code with an open source license is not Open Source unless it is actively maintained by someone and has freely available specs. Under that criteria, I guess NV isn't open source. Later, Micah ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Does FreeBSD 6.0 fully support PCI-Express?
Micah, Would you please list a cite that the nv driver is open source? There is also another site here: http://news.com.com/2061-10795_3-5762319.html although I will admit this is 5 months old - please cite a more recent article where nvidia has reversed their policy? As Mike Harris eloquently said a couple years ago: Nvidia doesn't release their technical specifications for their hardware to *anyone*, not even under NDA (non-disclosure agreements). One might be tempted to think "well you have the source code though right?", however the source code isn't enough. None of the video hardware registers are documented, instead they are programmed as a series of random "magic" numbers, so you have absolutely no idea what the purpose of a given register is, that is getting written seemingly random information into it in the driver. The driver is for all intents and purposes obfuscated unless you have the hardware documentation which turns numbers like 0x3432 into a useful name like NVIDIA_SUCH_AND_SUCH_REGISTER with documentation of WTH that register actually does. That's the long story, the short story is, that even though the "nv" driver is open source, it is more or less supplied as-is and the only way it gets updated is if Nvidia updates it, because nobody outside Nvidia has the foggiest clue how their hardware works. So if a card isn't supported, that's unfortunate. If 2D doesn't work, that's also unfortunate. By reporting bugs that occur in the "nv" driver to http://bugs.xfree86.org, the bug report will get assigned to Mark Vojkovich, who is the official driver maintainer, working at Nvidia, who has access to pretty much every Nvidia card ever made, and the technical specifications to go along with them. If he can't fix the bug, then more or less, nobody can. Not without getting hired by Nvidia to work on the 'nv' driver. ;o) Micah, if this has changed, please cite where. I myself also happen to have a system with an onboard nvidia card so I really am interested, not just trying to flame-bait. Ted >-Original Message- >From: Micah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:02 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Hans Nieser; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD 6.0 fully support PCI-Express? > > >Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> As far as I know Nvidia hasn't allowed Xorg to write drivers >> for their cards, all the nvidia drivers out there are >> binaries from Nvidia. This for me would cross that card >> off my list. > >Just to correct this bit of mis-information, there are two drivers >available for nvidia. The nv driver is an open source driver provided >by xorg, and the nvidia driver is a closed source driver >provided by nvidia. > >Later, >Micah > >-- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Does FreeBSD 6.0 fully support PCI-Express?
>-Original Message- >From: Hans Nieser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:48 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD 6.0 fully support PCI-Express? > > >Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> This is correct. The various driver authors who have been >> affected by the PCI Express issue have implemented logic in >> their probe code that activates the devices on pci express busses, >> so for most devices it's a non-issue. But this is kludgy and >> there's been discussion in the core as to try to get someone >> to write a PCI Express driver that would talk to the bus >> and would handle the devices the way the buss is intended. >> >> You still get weirdness though - for example on several Intel >> motherboards that have PCI Express that I've run FBSD on, >> the BSD kernel complains about no interrupt being available >> for the serial port. But the serial port works anyway. >> >> I'm surprised you didn't find this with Google, it's in >> there. Perhaps look through the mailing list archives? >> >> As far as I know Nvidia hasn't allowed Xorg to write drivers >> for their cards, all the nvidia drivers out there are >> binaries from Nvidia. This for me would cross that card >> off my list. >> >> In any case, this really isn't a FreeBSD issue, it's an Xorg >> issue and you should ask on those mailing lists. Others have >> had Nvidia troubles for other reasons and should be able to >> better advise you. > >Many thanks for your clarification Ted. I did post to >freebsd-x11 but the >list seems relatively low-traffic and unfortunately got no responses. I was meaning post to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Does FreeBSD 6.0 fully support PCI-Express?
Mike Hernandez wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 07:01:31AM -0800, Micah wrote: Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: As far as I know Nvidia hasn't allowed Xorg to write drivers for their cards, all the nvidia drivers out there are binaries from Nvidia. This for me would cross that card off my list. Just to correct this bit of mis-information, there are two drivers available for nvidia. The nv driver is an open source driver provided by xorg, and the nvidia driver is a closed source driver provided by nvidia. And the nvidia driver is in the ports tree, and works just fine. Just watch out if you're messing with the composite extension, glx, etc. I've been using it with my GeForce 6800 Pci-X card for months now with no problems (of course the composite stuff is still a bit flaky but it's still new). I have no choice but to use the closed nvidia driver, because when I use the "nv" driver, Xorg tends to freeze after a few minutes. Mike, out of curiousity, when you say that you have been using your card without troubles, do you actually mean it performs well too? Because I just installed Xorg+Gnome on my Dell Inspiron 510m laptop (equipped with a Pentium M 1.7GHz / 512 MB RAM / Intel i810 855GM graphics chip), and it depresses me to see that it greatly outperforms my desktop machine even in 2D. Things like dragging and resizing windows and the text rendering in gnome-terminal is clearly a lot smoother. ;( ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Does FreeBSD 6.0 fully support PCI-Express?
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 07:01:31AM -0800, Micah wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >As far as I know Nvidia hasn't allowed Xorg to write drivers > >for their cards, all the nvidia drivers out there are > >binaries from Nvidia. This for me would cross that card > >off my list. > > Just to correct this bit of mis-information, there are two drivers > available for nvidia. The nv driver is an open source driver provided > by xorg, and the nvidia driver is a closed source driver provided by nvidia. > And the nvidia driver is in the ports tree, and works just fine. Just watch out if you're messing with the composite extension, glx, etc. I've been using it with my GeForce 6800 Pci-X card for months now with no problems (of course the composite stuff is still a bit flaky but it's still new). Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Does FreeBSD 6.0 fully support PCI-Express?
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: As far as I know Nvidia hasn't allowed Xorg to write drivers for their cards, all the nvidia drivers out there are binaries from Nvidia. This for me would cross that card off my list. Just to correct this bit of mis-information, there are two drivers available for nvidia. The nv driver is an open source driver provided by xorg, and the nvidia driver is a closed source driver provided by nvidia. Later, Micah ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Does FreeBSD 6.0 fully support PCI-Express?
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: This is correct. The various driver authors who have been affected by the PCI Express issue have implemented logic in their probe code that activates the devices on pci express busses, so for most devices it's a non-issue. But this is kludgy and there's been discussion in the core as to try to get someone to write a PCI Express driver that would talk to the bus and would handle the devices the way the buss is intended. You still get weirdness though - for example on several Intel motherboards that have PCI Express that I've run FBSD on, the BSD kernel complains about no interrupt being available for the serial port. But the serial port works anyway. I'm surprised you didn't find this with Google, it's in there. Perhaps look through the mailing list archives? As far as I know Nvidia hasn't allowed Xorg to write drivers for their cards, all the nvidia drivers out there are binaries from Nvidia. This for me would cross that card off my list. In any case, this really isn't a FreeBSD issue, it's an Xorg issue and you should ask on those mailing lists. Others have had Nvidia troubles for other reasons and should be able to better advise you. Many thanks for your clarification Ted. I did post to freebsd-x11 but the list seems relatively low-traffic and unfortunately got no responses. Through google the closest I got to a possible answer was a post about PCI Express support as a kind of hack-job (on freebsd-arch, I think) but it didn't really provide a definite answer to me about wether or not my card was in fact limited by FreeBSD/nvidia's (lacking) PCI-Express support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Does FreeBSD 6.0 fully support PCI-Express?
This is correct. The various driver authors who have been affected by the PCI Express issue have implemented logic in their probe code that activates the devices on pci express busses, so for most devices it's a non-issue. But this is kludgy and there's been discussion in the core as to try to get someone to write a PCI Express driver that would talk to the bus and would handle the devices the way the buss is intended. You still get weirdness though - for example on several Intel motherboards that have PCI Express that I've run FBSD on, the BSD kernel complains about no interrupt being available for the serial port. But the serial port works anyway. I'm surprised you didn't find this with Google, it's in there. Perhaps look through the mailing list archives? As far as I know Nvidia hasn't allowed Xorg to write drivers for their cards, all the nvidia drivers out there are binaries from Nvidia. This for me would cross that card off my list. In any case, this really isn't a FreeBSD issue, it's an Xorg issue and you should ask on those mailing lists. Others have had Nvidia troubles for other reasons and should be able to better advise you. Ted >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hans Nieser >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:58 PM >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Does FreeBSD 6.0 fully support PCI-Express? > > >Hi list, > >I've been having troubles getting OpenGL applications' >performance up to >par. I have an Nvidia Geforce 6800GT with a PCI-Express interface and I >use nvidia's closed FreeBSD drivers. > >I have been told that FreeBSD (and consequently the nvidia >driver) do not >fully support PCI-Express which makes my card operate at the >same speed of >a plain old PCI bus, which would be a logical explanation for >my troubles. >I have however not been able to find _anything_ on the matter on google >and I am now wondering how much truth there is to this. > >My question is in the subject, I hope someone can clarify this as I it >will help me decide to get an AGP card instead or perhaps keep >trying to >figure out if I have misconfigured something. > >Thanks in advance, > >HN >___ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.4/176 - Release Date: >11/20/2005 > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Does FreeBSD 6.0 fully support PCI-Express?
Hi list, I've been having troubles getting OpenGL applications' performance up to par. I have an Nvidia Geforce 6800GT with a PCI-Express interface and I use nvidia's closed FreeBSD drivers. I have been told that FreeBSD (and consequently the nvidia driver) do not fully support PCI-Express which makes my card operate at the same speed of a plain old PCI bus, which would be a logical explanation for my troubles. I have however not been able to find _anything_ on the matter on google and I am now wondering how much truth there is to this. My question is in the subject, I hope someone can clarify this as I it will help me decide to get an AGP card instead or perhaps keep trying to figure out if I have misconfigured something. Thanks in advance, HN ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
em(4) driver not working with Intel Pro 1000 P (dual port pci express)
Hi, we just bought a bunch of Dell PowerEdge 1850 and Dell PowerEdge 2850. They have 2x1000 mbps nic onboard (intel pro 1000) which works fine with the em(4) kernel module. We also bought a pci express dual port Intel pro 1000 P nic (the chip on it is a 82546GB) We are unable to detect the card using the em(4) driver. Is there anyone who could help us configure it ? Thanks a lot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
em(4) driver not working with Intel Pro 1000 P (dual port pci express)
Hi, we just bought a bunch of Dell PowerEdge 1850 and Dell PowerEdge 2850. They have 2x1000 mbps nic onboard (intel pro 1000) which works fine with the em(4) kernel module. We also bought a pci express dual port Intel pro 1000 P nic (the chip on it is a 82546GB) We are unable to detect the card using the em(4) driver. Is there anyone who could help us configure it ? Thanks a lot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5751M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express and FreeBSD 4.10
has anyone got the above gigabit ethernet working with freebsd 4.10 ? patching sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c and sys/dev/bge/if_bgereg.h with the device and vendor IDs in the proper places doesnt seem to work, though the entries exist in the same files in the 4.11 sources. a mailing list search shows it working fine on the ibm t43 notebooks but on freebsd 5.4 instead. however, as mentioned above, RELENG_4 sources contain the device id for the BCM5751M, so i'd assume it'd work there too. there seems to be no special handling of this device in the code, so getting it to work on 4.10 (as opposed to 4.11R) would be as simple as adding in the same device ids. or so i thought. pciconf -l -v yields [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x0944103c chip=0x167d14e4 rev=0x11 hdr=0x0 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' class = network subclass = ethernet and a kldload if_bge returns (after patching in device id): bge0: mem 0xc800-0xc800 irq 10 at device 0.0 on pci16 bge0: firmware handshake timed out bge0: RX CPU self-diagnostics failed! bge0: chip initialization failed device_probe_and_attach: bge0 returned 6 the notebook is a HP nc6230. -- Regards, /\_/\ "All dogs go to heaven." [EMAIL PROTECTED](0 0)http://www.alphaque.com/ +==oOO--(_)--OOo==+ | for a in past present future; do| | for b in clients employers associates relatives neighbours pets; do | | echo "The opinions here in no way reflect the opinions of my $a $b." | | done; done | +=+ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Problems with PCI-express video card
On Sunday 10 April 2005 02:29, you wrote: > Danny Pansters wrote: > > [ top posting for a change ;-) ] > > Thanks for the reply. > > > Is this is a brand new board/box (eg first time trying FreeBSD with it)? > > If so, try physically installing first the RAM then the pci-x card. They > > want a memory adress pool allocated and that should be "above" your RAM > > allocated addresses. > > It is not a brand new box, but I have never been able to get X under > FreeBSD to work with it. > > I reduced the RAM in the computer to 2GB, and removed the pci-x card, > booted up, and the reinstalled the pci-x card, as you suggested. > Unfortunately it didn't change anything. > > > You don't need agp in your kernel, in fact better not if you use > > nvidia-driver. > > I have hint.agp.0.disabled="1" in /boot/loader.conf - presumably that > does the same thing. > > > You might also have a basket case situation where your allocated > > addresses for the nvidia overlap with those for another PCI card, but I > > think usually the OS will handle this. My first bet would be on the "RAM > > chipping" that might occur as explained above. > > > > > > Also note (perhaps superfluous) that you shouldn't be running X when > > (re)loading nvidia.ko. > > > > But perhaps it just isn't supported. Does using X' nv work or not? > > X nv doesn't work either. But the 6600 is listed as a board that is > supported, both by nv and nvidia. Hmm, I'm afraid I don't know anything else to try either... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: PCI-Express
On Wednesday 03 November 2004 11:12, Albert Shih wrote: > Hi all > > Stupid question but I don't find any answer in google (good answer). > > FreeBSD 5.X (5.3 for example) have support for PCI-Express ? Can I use > XFree86 (or Xorg) with a PCI-Express video card event I don't have max > perfs (juste fort Xterm/Vi/mozilla). > > Same question for SATA disk > > Lots of thanks. I've got a ATI Radeon X300 card and it works just fine. I can't seem to use the radeon driver in xorg.conf though, i have to use vesa. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: PCI-Express
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:12, Albert Shih wrote: > Hi all > > Stupid question but I don't find any answer in google (good answer). No such thing as a stupid question, only stupid answers. > FreeBSD 5.X (5.3 for example) have support for PCI-Express ? Can I use > XFree86 (or Xorg) with a PCI-Express video card event I don't have max > perfs (juste fort Xterm/Vi/mozilla). This was posted in current a couple of months ago http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1414477+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2004/freebsd-current/20040919.freebsd-current looks promising :-) > Same question for SATA disk What kind of SATA hardware. I found the above link thru the mailing list search at: http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists Give it ago yourself, and include the SATA hardware (in your query)you are interested in. > Lots of thanks. Hope it was some help -Alastair ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
PCI-Express
Hi all Stupid question but I don't find any answer in google (good answer). FreeBSD 5.X (5.3 for example) have support for PCI-Express ? Can I use XFree86 (or Xorg) with a PCI-Express video card event I don't have max perfs (juste fort Xterm/Vi/mozilla). Same question for SATA disk Lots of thanks. -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. Heure local/Local time: Wed Nov 3 11:10:03 CET 2004 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
