Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem

2007-03-16 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:07:26PM +0100, Nino Ivanov wrote:
> I tried to send to freebsd-questions the following twice, and twice failed!:
> 
> Dear Sir or Madam,
> 
> I tried reaching
> 
> ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/
> 
> from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires me to
> input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I would like to
> download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some new regular behaviour,
> and in any case, is there a way to download these images?
> 
> NetBSD archives work well, so it is not a problem in my machine I think.

Probably it's just busy.

Kris
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Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem

2007-03-16 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 08:58:00AM -0400, Ian Lord wrote:

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nino Ivanov
> Sent: 16 mars 2007 07:07
> To: 'Josh Paetzel'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Cc: 'Kris Kennaway'
> Subject: AW: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem
> 
> I tried to send to freebsd-questions the following twice, and twice failed!:

Looks like both were posted.   Why would you think it failed?

jerry

> 
> Dear Sir or Madam,
> 
> I tried reaching
> 
> ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/
> 
> from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires me to
> input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I would like to
> download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some new regular behaviour,
> and in any case, is there a way to download these images?
> 
> NetBSD archives work well, so it is not a problem in my machine I think.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Nino Ivanov
> 
> Lol :)
> 
> In Ie7, just click the "log on anonymously" checkbox and press login
> 
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Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem

2007-03-16 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Friday 16 March 2007, Ian Lord wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nino
> Ivanov Sent: 16 mars 2007 07:07
> To: 'Josh Paetzel'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Cc: 'Kris Kennaway'
> Subject: AW: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem
>
> I tried to send to freebsd-questions the following twice, and twice
> failed!:
>
> Dear Sir or Madam,
>
> I tried reaching
>
> ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/
>
> from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires
> me to input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I
> would like to download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some
> new regular behaviour, and in any case, is there a way to download
> these images?
>
> NetBSD archives work well, so it is not a problem in my machine I
> think.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nino Ivanov
>
> Lol :)
>
> In Ie7, just click the "log on anonymously" checkbox and press
> login

anonymous logins seem to be broken.

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Josh Paetzel
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RE: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem

2007-03-16 Thread Ian Lord

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nino Ivanov
Sent: 16 mars 2007 07:07
To: 'Josh Paetzel'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: 'Kris Kennaway'
Subject: AW: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem

I tried to send to freebsd-questions the following twice, and twice failed!:

Dear Sir or Madam,

I tried reaching

ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/

from my Windows XP machine, using Firefox 2.0.0.2, and it requires me to
input a username and a password. The same happens with IE7. I would like to
download old ISO images. Is this a bug, or is it some new regular behaviour,
and in any case, is there a way to download these images?

NetBSD archives work well, so it is not a problem in my machine I think.

Regards,

Nino Ivanov

Lol :)

In Ie7, just click the "log on anonymously" checkbox and press login

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Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem

2007-03-15 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Thursday 15 March 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 08:43:32PM +0100, Nino Ivanov wrote:
> > Dear Chistian, Dear Kris,
> >
> > I also think the RAM will not be the issue, as it is a text-only
> > install, and indeed, I am not planning to "get fancy". I
> > completely don't need X. Midnight Commander is perfectly fine as
> > a working environment. 4.11 seemed OK.
> >
> > But I am having a different problem right now, which I am still
> > researching: It does not recognize the device from where to mount
> > root correctly. I mean the following: When I put FreeBSD into the
> > Compaq for installation, the harddrive is ad4 or ad8. But in the
> > system where I want to run it, the HP Omnibook, it is ad0.
> >
> > Now, when I start it back in the HP Omnibook, it says that swap
> > is not configured correctly on ad8s-something. Which is true, it
> > should look for it on ad0... I have only once been able till now
> > to mount root. (And this is my basis for assuming that even 4.11
> > CAN potentially run.) I said as command ufs:/dev/ad0 when it
> > asked me where to mount root from. This worked, however, e.g.
> > ufs:/dev/ad0s1 did not work. I am thinking that I might have made
> > a mistake, and should have said ad0s1a.
> >
> > Yet, the principal new problem persists: FreeBSD does not realize
> > that it should now look at ad0 instead of ad4 or ad8. (However,
> > in the booting process, it correctly "sees" ad0 as having 325 MB
> > etc.) Is there a way to solve this?
>
> Probably the /etc/fstab is wrong and refers to the ad4 or ad8
> devices. The root should indeed typically be ufs:/dev/ad0s1a.
>
> Kris

I'm a tad confused, as I thought we were talking about FBSD 2.x, which 
would've called your drive wd0, not ad0.  But Kris is correct in that 
your fstab is wrong...your /boot/loader.conf probably has the wrong 
root device as well.


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Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem

2007-03-15 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 08:43:32PM +0100, Nino Ivanov wrote:
> Dear Chistian, Dear Kris,
> 
> I also think the RAM will not be the issue, as it is a text-only install,
> and indeed, I am not planning to "get fancy". I completely don't need X.
> Midnight Commander is perfectly fine as a working environment. 4.11 seemed
> OK.
> 
> But I am having a different problem right now, which I am still researching:
> It does not recognize the device from where to mount root correctly. I mean
> the following: When I put FreeBSD into the Compaq for installation, the
> harddrive is ad4 or ad8. But in the system where I want to run it, the HP
> Omnibook, it is ad0.
> 
> Now, when I start it back in the HP Omnibook, it says that swap is not
> configured correctly on ad8s-something. Which is true, it should look for it
> on ad0... I have only once been able till now to mount root. (And this is my
> basis for assuming that even 4.11 CAN potentially run.) I said as command
> ufs:/dev/ad0 when it asked me where to mount root from. This worked,
> however, e.g. ufs:/dev/ad0s1 did not work. I am thinking that I might have
> made a mistake, and should have said ad0s1a.
> 
> Yet, the principal new problem persists: FreeBSD does not realize that it
> should now look at ad0 instead of ad4 or ad8. (However, in the booting
> process, it correctly "sees" ad0 as having 325 MB etc.) Is there a way to
> solve this?

Probably the /etc/fstab is wrong and refers to the ad4 or ad8 devices.
The root should indeed typically be ufs:/dev/ad0s1a.

Kris
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Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem

2007-03-15 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 12:28:12PM +0100, Christian Walther wrote:
> On 15/03/07, Nino Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Dear Sir or Madam,
> >
> [...]
> >
> >The target machine is a HP Omnibook 600c laptop with 8MB RAM, a 486 DX4
> >processor, 300 MB disk space. No CD drive. No network available. External
> >floppy drive without DMA. (I tried NetBSD, but because of the lack of DMA 
> >it
> >did not work properly.) The functioning of the floppy drive is critical,
> >being the machine's only practical means of communicating with the outer
> >world. Due to cost and time considerations, no upgrades are possible. If 
> >the
> >target machine is not suitable for an installation of FreeBSD, please let 
> >me
> >know so I stop further attempts.
> 
> I guess you're without luck in this case. AFAIK FreeBSD needs at least
> 64 MB RAM to work happily. I tried installing it on an P1/133MHz
> Laptop with 16MB RAM, and it freezes after a few minutes. And it's
> dead slow.

Well it is only true of more modern versions that they do not function
well on systems with e.g. 8MB.  FreeBSD 2.x was happy with as little
as 4MB.

Kris
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Re: FreeBSD 2.2.9 / Installation problem

2007-03-15 Thread Christian Walther

On 15/03/07, Nino Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear Sir or Madam,


[...]


The target machine is a HP Omnibook 600c laptop with 8MB RAM, a 486 DX4
processor, 300 MB disk space. No CD drive. No network available. External
floppy drive without DMA. (I tried NetBSD, but because of the lack of DMA it
did not work properly.) The functioning of the floppy drive is critical,
being the machine's only practical means of communicating with the outer
world. Due to cost and time considerations, no upgrades are possible. If the
target machine is not suitable for an installation of FreeBSD, please let me
know so I stop further attempts.


I guess you're without luck in this case. AFAIK FreeBSD needs at least
64 MB RAM to work happily. I tried installing it on an P1/133MHz
Laptop with 16MB RAM, and it freezes after a few minutes. And it's
dead slow.
So I tried NetBSD which worked better on my machine. Maybe there is a
switch or configuration setting to turn off DMA for the Floppy Drive?

HTH
Christian
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