Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution
2008/12/2 Pieter Donche [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. So this would point to ia64 distribution? But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View tells for ia64: Currently supported processors are Itanium and Itanium2 There nothing about Intel XEON ?? I never googled it before, but 2 sec gave me http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/hardware.html#PROC-AMD64 So use the amd64 ;) 368 vs 372 is that the 64 bit is compiled for 64 bit, and uses a little more space. what is 368 vs 372 ?? The size difference you talked about (368 vs 0.372) / Ebbe 2008/12/2 Pieter Donche [EMAIL PROTECTED] If motherboad is Supermicro X7SBE XEON 3000 with 2 Quad core processors Intel Harpertown E 5405 2.0Ghz 12M cache 1333FSB and 4 x 4Gb memory, what distribution of FreeBSD 7.0 applies: i386 or ia64 ? Why are the ISO's so different in size between i386 and ia64 (i386: disc1,2,3: 534, 728, 368Gb; ia64: 449Gb, 0,372 Gb, 0,372 Gb) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution
Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. 368 vs 372 is that the 64 bit is compiled for 64 bit, and uses a little more space. / Ebbe 2008/12/2 Pieter Donche [EMAIL PROTECTED] If motherboad is Supermicro X7SBE XEON 3000 with 2 Quad core processors Intel Harpertown E 5405 2.0Ghz 12M cache 1333FSB and 4 x 4Gb memory, what distribution of FreeBSD 7.0 applies: i386 or ia64 ? Why are the ISO's so different in size between i386 and ia64 (i386: disc1,2,3: 534, 728, 368Gb; ia64: 449Gb, 0,372 Gb, 0,372 Gb) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: 2008/12/2 Pieter Donche [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. I never googled it before, but 2 sec gave me http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/hardware.html#PROC-AMD64 So use the amd64 ;) Is the amd64 distribution mature enough, as compared to the i386? Aren't there any problems to be expected to arrive, months after initial install and way in the production usage ?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution
So use the amd64 ;) Is the amd64 distribution mature enough, as compared to the i386? yes Aren't there any problems to be expected to arrive, months after initial install and way in the production usage ?? no. the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is that some binary-only drivers are only availaboe for i386. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is that some binary-only drivers are only availaboe for i386. what kind of drivers would be missing for the amd64 distribution ??? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution
If motherboad is Supermicro X7SBE XEON 3000 with 2 Quad core processors Intel Harpertown E 5405 2.0Ghz 12M cache 1333FSB and 4 x 4Gb memory, what distribution of FreeBSD 7.0 applies: i386 or ia64 ? Why are the ISO's so different in size between i386 and ia64 (i386: disc1,2,3: 534, 728, 368Gb; ia64: 449Gb, 0,372 Gb, 0,372 Gb) ia64 is itanium. you need amd64. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution
the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is that some binary-only drivers are only availaboe for i386. what kind of drivers would be missing for the amd64 distribution ??? Nvidia!!! Regards, Johan Hendriks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date: 2-12-2008 9:31 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nvidia (Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution)
Johan Hendriks wrote: the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is that some binary-only drivers are only availaboe for i386. what kind of drivers would be missing for the amd64 distribution ??? Nvidia!!! I am one ot these folks, using 32-bit FreeBSD on my desktop, just because of Nvidia drivers. Wanted to ask, maybe somebody here knows, is there any hope to expect 64 bit Nvidia drivers in some reasonable future? What is the problem with Nvidia? Why they do not provide 64 bit drivers? Regards, O.K. -- Testi oma Interneti kiirust / Test Your Internet speed: http://speedtest.zzz.ee/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nvidia (Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution)
=?windows-1250?Q?Ott_K=F6stner?= writes: I am one ot these folks, using 32-bit FreeBSD on my desktop, just because of Nvidia drivers. Wanted to ask, maybe somebody here knows, is there any hope to expect 64 bit Nvidia drivers in some reasonable future? What is the problem with Nvidia? Why they do not provide 64 bit drivers? For the same reason they don't provide up-to-date i386 drivers. This is a recurring thread; please search the mailing list archives. (Hint: try Zander nvidia as a search term.) Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nvidia (Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution)
Nvidia drivers. Wanted to ask, maybe somebody here knows, is there any hope to expect 64 bit Nvidia drivers in some reasonable future? What is the problem with Nvidia? Why they do not provide 64 bit drivers? because there are not enough pressure from clients? (by not buying them) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. So this would point to ia64 distribution? But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View tells for ia64: Currently supported processors are Itanium and Itanium2 There nothing about Intel XEON ?? 368 vs 372 is that the 64 bit is compiled for 64 bit, and uses a little more space. what is 368 vs 372 ?? / Ebbe 2008/12/2 Pieter Donche [EMAIL PROTECTED] If motherboad is Supermicro X7SBE XEON 3000 with 2 Quad core processors Intel Harpertown E 5405 2.0Ghz 12M cache 1333FSB and 4 x 4Gb memory, what distribution of FreeBSD 7.0 applies: i386 or ia64 ? Why are the ISO's so different in size between i386 and ia64 (i386: disc1,2,3: 534, 728, 368Gb; ia64: 449Gb, 0,372 Gb, 0,372 Gb) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Nvidia (Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution)
Nvidia drivers. Wanted to ask, maybe somebody here knows, is there any hope to expect 64 bit Nvidia drivers in some reasonable future? What is the problem with Nvidia? Why they do not provide 64 bit drivers? because there are not enough pressure from clients? (by not buying them) They missing some things in the kernel of FreeBSD so it has nothing to do with nvidia not willing it is FreeBSD who lacks support in the kernel for a 64bit NVIDIA driver. But like said before there are numoures threads about this. Regards, Johan Hendriks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date: 2-12-2008 9:31 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Johan Hendriks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the only reason that people use FreeBSD/i386 on 64-bit processors is that some binary-only drivers are only availaboe for i386. what kind of drivers would be missing for the amd64 distribution ??? Nvidia!!! No Nvidia on that particular motherboard so the OP is on the safe side. @OP: I have just installed FBSD amd 64 2 weeks ago to benefit of +4 GB of RAM and until now i didn't have any kind of problem in compiling and running applications. My box is a web/mail/vpn/router/samba (yes i know there shouldn't be that many services on the box, but tell my boss that) and all the apps are working like a charm. v Regards, Johan Hendriks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date: 2-12-2008 9:31 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution
My box is a web/mail/vpn/router/samba (yes i know there shouldn't be that many services on the box, but tell my boss that) and all the apps are working like a charm. his money his problem. overspending on hardware it's quite common, instead of paying more employees with the same money. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution
Pieter Donche wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. So this would point to ia64 distribution? But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View tells for ia64: Currently supported processors are Itanium and Itanium2 There nothing about Intel XEON ?? No -- ia64 is the Itanium chip. Use amd64 for Xeons -- it covers all recent multi-core Intel chips as well as the AMD 64bit processors. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution
Pieter Donche wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. So this would point to ia64 distribution? But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View tells for ia64: Currently supported processors are Itanium and Itanium2 There nothing about Intel XEON ?? No -- ia64 is the Itanium chip. Use amd64 for Xeons -- it covers all recent multi-core Intel chips as well as the AMD 64bit processors. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: FreeBSD 7.0: which distribution
Pieter Donche wrote: On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ebbe Hjorth wrote: Hi, All new XEON cpus are 64-bit spo use the 64 bit freebsd version. So this would point to ia64 distribution? But clicking op www.freebsd.com/where.html - Hardware notes/View tells for ia64: Currently supported processors are Itanium and Itanium2 There nothing about Intel XEON ?? No -- ia64 is the Itanium chip. Use amd64 for Xeons -- it covers all recent multi-core Intel chips as well as the AMD 64bit processors. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
