Re: Ntpd assistance
On 9/22/2004 at 11:58 AM alden.pierre wrote: |MikeM wrote: | |>On 9/22/2004 at 11:19 AM alden.pierre wrote: |> |>|/etc/rc.conf contains the following: |>| |>|ntpdate_enable="YES" |>|ntpdate_flags="timex.cs.columbia.edu" |>|xntpd_enable="YES"# Run ntpd Network Time Protocol |>| |>|/etc/ntpd.conf contains the following: |>| |>|driftfile/etc/ntp/drift |>|server 65.211.109.1 |>|server 65.211.109.11 |>|server 209.51.161.238 |>|server 128.59.59.177 |>| |>| |>|Am I doing something wrong here? My time seems to go out of sync after |>|my FreeBSD 4.10 box has been up for a couple of hours. Any help would |>|be greatly appreciated. |> = A couple of other suggestions: 1) Add the -sv flag to the ntpdate flags: ntpdate_flags="-sv timex.cs.columbia.edu" That will give you some good ntpdate info in the messages log file. 2) Add the following to yout ntp.conf file: # enable logging logfile /var/log/ntp.log That will give you some info on the ntpd daemon. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Ntpd assistance
On 9/22/2004 at 11:58 AM alden.pierre wrote: |MikeM wrote: | |>On 9/22/2004 at 11:19 AM alden.pierre wrote: |> |>|/etc/rc.conf contains the following: |>| |>|ntpdate_enable="YES" |>|ntpdate_flags="timex.cs.columbia.edu" |>|xntpd_enable="YES"# Run ntpd Network Time Protocol |>| |>|/etc/ntpd.conf contains the following: |>| |>|driftfile/etc/ntp/drift |>|server 65.211.109.1 |>|server 65.211.109.11 |>|server 209.51.161.238 |>|server 128.59.59.177 |>| |>| |>|Am I doing something wrong here? My time seems to go out of sync after |>|my FreeBSD 4.10 box has been up for a couple of hours. Any help would |>|be greatly appreciated. |> = |> |>Post the results of the command |> |> ntpq -c peer |> |> |No association ID's returned | |Is what I get. | |Thank You |Alden Louis-Pierre = It looks like the ntpd daemon isn't running. I note the ntpd.conf typo you had. Does changing it to ntp.conf resolve your problem? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Ntpd assistance
i had a machine where internal clock runs 1.5 times faster than normal clock. as a result time will be about 5min faster every 30min or so. if internal clock is busted like mine, ntpd will not be able to sync time. It takes as long as few days to sync few min on your unix clock. Also if i remember correctly unix keeps internal clock and system clock separatly. read http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/ntpd.html PS. use closer tier 2 or tier 3 and multiple sources (as long as they are public) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ntpd assistance alden.pierre wrote: > /etc/rc.conf contains the following: > > ntpdate_enable="YES" > ntpdate_flags="timex.cs.columbia.edu" > xntpd_enable="YES"# Run ntpd Network Time Protocol > > /etc/ntpd.conf contains the following: > > driftfile/etc/ntp/drift > server 65.211.109.1 > server 65.211.109.11 > server 209.51.161.238 > server 128.59.59.177 Use /etc/ntp.conf (NOT ntpd.conf). I would configure this system as follows: /etc/rc.conf: ntpdate_enable="YES" ntpdate_flags="-b 65.211.109.1 65.211.109.11 209.51.161.238 128.59.59.177" xntpd_enable="YES" /etc/ntp.conf: #-- # prohibit general access to this service #-- restrict default ignore #-- # localhost has full access to the server #-- restrict 127.0.0.1 #-- # servers to query #-- server 65.211.109.1 restrict 65.211.109.1 server 65.211.109.11 restrict 65.211.109.11 server 209.51.161.238 restrict 209.51.161.238 server 128.59.59.177 restrict 128.59.59.177 #-- # files to use #-- driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift - The idea is, that, at boot up, you force instant time synchronization with ntpdate, using the list of servers in ntpdate_flags="-b ". (check the man page of ntpdate and the -b flag). Then you allow ntpd to start (xntpd_enable = "YES"), that will keep the time in sync with the servers in /etc/ntp.conf. As a regular user, verify nptd's sync behaviour with: ntpq -np I hope that helps. Rob. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Ntpd assistance
alden.pierre wrote: /etc/rc.conf contains the following: ntpdate_enable="YES" ntpdate_flags="timex.cs.columbia.edu" xntpd_enable="YES"# Run ntpd Network Time Protocol /etc/ntpd.conf contains the following: driftfile/etc/ntp/drift server 65.211.109.1 server 65.211.109.11 server 209.51.161.238 server 128.59.59.177 Use /etc/ntp.conf (NOT ntpd.conf). I would configure this system as follows: /etc/rc.conf: ntpdate_enable="YES" ntpdate_flags="-b 65.211.109.1 65.211.109.11 209.51.161.238 128.59.59.177" xntpd_enable="YES" /etc/ntp.conf: #-- # prohibit general access to this service #-- restrict default ignore #-- # localhost has full access to the server #-- restrict 127.0.0.1 #-- # servers to query #-- server 65.211.109.1 restrict 65.211.109.1 server 65.211.109.11 restrict 65.211.109.11 server 209.51.161.238 restrict 209.51.161.238 server 128.59.59.177 restrict 128.59.59.177 #-- # files to use #-- driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift - The idea is, that, at boot up, you force instant time synchronization with ntpdate, using the list of servers in ntpdate_flags="-b ". (check the man page of ntpdate and the -b flag). Then you allow ntpd to start (xntpd_enable = "YES"), that will keep the time in sync with the servers in /etc/ntp.conf. As a regular user, verify nptd's sync behaviour with: ntpq -np I hope that helps. Rob. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Ntpd assistance
Emanuel Strobl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 23:43 schrieb Bill Moran: > [...] > > > > I don't believe you can reliably run both ntpdate and xntpd. Besides, > > > > > > This is working because ntpdate is invoked only once at startup, which > > > is, in my case, because of possible empty BIOS-Battery where the date > > > would be wrong for several years which causes ntpd to refuse to adjust > > > the time. I use generally ntpdate at startup before ntpd keeps the kernel > > > time in sync. > > > > Um ... did you read my whole message? > > Sorry, no. You're right, next time I'll be more careful. Sorry ... I didn't mean to be short about it. I should take a deep breath before sending off mails like that. Just having a tough day, I apologize for taking it out on you. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Ntpd assistance
Am Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 23:43 schrieb Bill Moran: [...] > > > I don't believe you can reliably run both ntpdate and xntpd. Besides, > > > > This is working because ntpdate is invoked only once at startup, which > > is, in my case, because of possible empty BIOS-Battery where the date > > would be wrong for several years which causes ntpd to refuse to adjust > > the time. I use generally ntpdate at startup before ntpd keeps the kernel > > time in sync. > > Um ... did you read my whole message? Sorry, no. You're right, next time I'll be more careful. Thanks, -Mano > > Check the ntpd man page on the -g option. If you are running ntpd, you > don't need ntpdate. You answer shows that you are not familiar with the > ntpd program and didn't read the rest of my email. > > > > if you plan to run xntpd anyway, just set xntpd_flags="-g" and it will > > > behave the same as ntpdate at startup, as well as running continually > > > to ensure your clock stays synced. pgpBHcx6tzWa8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ntpd assistance
Emanuel Strobl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 23:27 schrieb Bill Moran: > > Emanuel Strobl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 17:19 schrieb alden.pierre: > > > > /etc/rc.conf contains the following: > > > > > > > > ntpdate_enable="YES" > > > > ntpdate_flags="timex.cs.columbia.edu" > > > > xntpd_enable="YES"# Run ntpd Network Time Protocol > > > > > > > > /etc/ntpd.conf contains the following: > > > > > >^ > > > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't ntpd 4.1 use ntp.conf instead of > > > ntpd.conf? > > > > > > You can try -c /etc/ntpd.conf > > > > > > -Harry > > > > In addition to this minor error ... > > > > I don't believe you can reliably run both ntpdate and xntpd. Besides, > > This is working because ntpdate is invoked only once at startup, which is, in > my case, because of possible empty BIOS-Battery where the date would be wrong > for several years which causes ntpd to refuse to adjust the time. > I use generally ntpdate at startup before ntpd keeps the kernel time in sync. Um ... did you read my whole message? Check the ntpd man page on the -g option. If you are running ntpd, you don't need ntpdate. You answer shows that you are not familiar with the ntpd program and didn't read the rest of my email. > > if you plan to run xntpd anyway, just set xntpd_flags="-g" and it will > > behave the same as ntpdate at startup, as well as running continually > > to ensure your clock stays synced. > -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Ntpd assistance
Am Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 23:27 schrieb Bill Moran: > Emanuel Strobl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 17:19 schrieb alden.pierre: > > > /etc/rc.conf contains the following: > > > > > > ntpdate_enable="YES" > > > ntpdate_flags="timex.cs.columbia.edu" > > > xntpd_enable="YES"# Run ntpd Network Time Protocol > > > > > > /etc/ntpd.conf contains the following: > > > >^ > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't ntpd 4.1 use ntp.conf instead of > > ntpd.conf? > > > > You can try -c /etc/ntpd.conf > > > > -Harry > > In addition to this minor error ... > > I don't believe you can reliably run both ntpdate and xntpd. Besides, This is working because ntpdate is invoked only once at startup, which is, in my case, because of possible empty BIOS-Battery where the date would be wrong for several years which causes ntpd to refuse to adjust the time. I use generally ntpdate at startup before ntpd keeps the kernel time in sync. -Mano > if you plan to run xntpd anyway, just set xntpd_flags="-g" and it will > behave the same as ntpdate at startup, as well as running continually > to ensure your clock stays synced. pgpnyYQI0oEjD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ntpd assistance
Emanuel Strobl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 17:19 schrieb alden.pierre: > > /etc/rc.conf contains the following: > > > > ntpdate_enable="YES" > > ntpdate_flags="timex.cs.columbia.edu" > > xntpd_enable="YES"# Run ntpd Network Time Protocol > > > > /etc/ntpd.conf contains the following: >^ > > Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't ntpd 4.1 use ntp.conf instead of > ntpd.conf? > > You can try -c /etc/ntpd.conf > > -Harry In addition to this minor error ... I don't believe you can reliably run both ntpdate and xntpd. Besides, if you plan to run xntpd anyway, just set xntpd_flags="-g" and it will behave the same as ntpdate at startup, as well as running continually to ensure your clock stays synced. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Ntpd assistance
Richard Lynch wrote: Am I doing something wrong here? My time seems to go out of sync after my FreeBSD 4.10 box has been up for a couple of hours. Any help would be greatly appreciated. After your machine has booted and run in multiuser mode for several minutes run ntpdc to query ntpd about its status. The command to see its status with its time servers is 'peers', e.g. ;ntpdc ntpdc> peers remote local st poll reach delay offsetdisp === *zeus.csl.sri.co 130.107.2.57 2 1024 377 0.00079 0.000651 0.01483 =plato.csl.sri.c 130.107.2.57 3 1024 377 0.00035 -0.001401 0.01483 =orion.csl.sri.c 130.107.2.57 3 1024 377 0.00032 -0.001799 0.01483 ntpdc> It was posted here recenlty that if your security setting is at 1 (?), then ntp can only change the clock by 1 second... init(8) states secure level 2 or above. - Mike ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Ntpd assistance
alden.pierre wrote: > /etc/rc.conf contains the following: > > ntpdate_enable="YES" > ntpdate_flags="timex.cs.columbia.edu" > xntpd_enable="YES"# Run ntpd Network Time Protocol > > /etc/ntpd.conf contains the following: > > driftfile/etc/ntp/drift > server 65.211.109.1 > server 65.211.109.11 > server 209.51.161.238 > server 128.59.59.177 > > > Am I doing something wrong here? My time seems to go out of sync after > my FreeBSD 4.10 box has been up for a couple of hours. Any help would > be greatly > appreciated. It was posted here recenlty that if your security setting is at 1 (?), then ntp can only change the clock by 1 second... -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Ntpd assistance
Am Mittwoch, 22. September 2004 17:19 schrieb alden.pierre: > /etc/rc.conf contains the following: > > ntpdate_enable="YES" > ntpdate_flags="timex.cs.columbia.edu" > xntpd_enable="YES"# Run ntpd Network Time Protocol > > /etc/ntpd.conf contains the following: ^ Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't ntpd 4.1 use ntp.conf instead of ntpd.conf? You can try -c /etc/ntpd.conf -Harry > > driftfile/etc/ntp/drift > server 65.211.109.1 > server 65.211.109.11 > server 209.51.161.238 > server 128.59.59.177 > > > Am I doing something wrong here? My time seems to go out of sync after > my FreeBSD 4.10 box has been up for a couple of hours. Any help would > be greatly > appreciated. > > Thank You > Alden Louis-Pierre > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" pgpmdhWNQg7CO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ntpd assistance
alden.pierre wrote: /etc/rc.conf contains the following: ntpdate_enable="YES" ntpdate_flags="timex.cs.columbia.edu" xntpd_enable="YES"# Run ntpd Network Time Protocol /etc/ntpd.conf contains the following: driftfile/etc/ntp/drift server 65.211.109.1 server 65.211.109.11 server 209.51.161.238 server 128.59.59.177 Am I doing something wrong here? My time seems to go out of sync after my FreeBSD 4.10 box has been up for a couple of hours. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Alden Louis-Pierre ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" man ntpd and ntpdate show that these are two different things. Ntpdate makes clock sync in restart, xntpd keeps it that way. ntpdate, to my understanding, doesn't use the config file. Mikko ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Ntpd assistance
MikeM wrote: On 9/22/2004 at 11:19 AM alden.pierre wrote: |/etc/rc.conf contains the following: | |ntpdate_enable="YES" |ntpdate_flags="timex.cs.columbia.edu" |xntpd_enable="YES"# Run ntpd Network Time Protocol | |/etc/ntpd.conf contains the following: | |driftfile/etc/ntp/drift |server 65.211.109.1 |server 65.211.109.11 |server 209.51.161.238 |server 128.59.59.177 | | |Am I doing something wrong here? My time seems to go out of sync after |my FreeBSD 4.10 box has been up for a couple of hours. Any help would |be greatly appreciated. = Post the results of the command ntpq -c peer ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" No association ID's returned Is what I get. Thank You Alden Louis-Pierre ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Ntpd assistance
On 9/22/2004 at 11:19 AM alden.pierre wrote: |/etc/rc.conf contains the following: | |ntpdate_enable="YES" |ntpdate_flags="timex.cs.columbia.edu" |xntpd_enable="YES"# Run ntpd Network Time Protocol | |/etc/ntpd.conf contains the following: | |driftfile/etc/ntp/drift |server 65.211.109.1 |server 65.211.109.11 |server 209.51.161.238 |server 128.59.59.177 | | |Am I doing something wrong here? My time seems to go out of sync after |my FreeBSD 4.10 box has been up for a couple of hours. Any help would |be greatly appreciated. = Post the results of the command ntpq -c peer ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
