Re: Recommendations for running FreeBSD as a guest OS
As promised, here is the link Was recommended only once by a vendor we use. Haven't done ANY research on it, and WILL do research on it. I'd be interested to hear outcomes from anybody here that tries it. http://www.mailenable.com/ Thanks all, --Tim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Recommendations for running FreeBSD as a guest OS
Using catchall email account is a sin. Don't do it. On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Bobby Walker wrote: > I have a small network at work that, unfortunately, uses Windows 2003. I > need a good mail server, but I do not have a budget for purchasing > additional software. Exchange requires too many hacks to configure a > catchall email account, and Exchange and I do not get along very well. So, > today while brainstorming, I thought why not run FreeBSD as a guest OS on > the box. Any suggestions for the best way of doing this? > > Thanks in advance, > Bobby > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: Recommendations for running FreeBSD as a guest OS
On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 10:23 -0800, Charles Oppermann wrote: > > I have a small network at work that, unfortunately, uses Windows 2003. > > Nothing unfortunate about using Windows 2003. It's well supported and well > known. That's not a knock against any other OS, but if there are other > reasons to use an OS other than FreeBSD, people shouldn't feel a need to > denigrate or apologize for it (not saying that you are doing that > specifically, but many people do). > > > I need a good mail server, but I do not have a budget for purchasing > > additional software. > > That's what I love about FreeBSD :-) > > > Exchange requires too many hacks to configure a > > catchall email account, and Exchange and I do not get along very well. > > I used to run a small Exchange 2000 (later Exchange 2003) system and it had > a method by which all mail that didn't match an existing mailbox account > could be routed to either a specific account or to a mailbox that could be > accessed by other accounts. I don't recall the details, and I think someone > else pointed you in the right direction already, but if you still have > difficulty, let me know and I'll try to find out the exact steps. What > version of Exchange would you run? > > Microsoft's Small Business Server product might be better suited, but that > too might be too expensive. > > > So, today while brainstorming, I thought why not run FreeBSD as a guest > > OS on the box. Any suggestions for the best way of doing this? > > I think that's a great idea. > > I've ran FreeBSD 7.0 as a guest on Windows XP, Vista and FBSD7.1 under the > Windows 7 beta with good success. The host was running Microsoft Virtual PC > 2007 with the latest service pack. There were some networking things I had > to figure out, but I was impressed with the performance. > > I just checked and Windows Server 2003 is one of the supported operating > systems. Note that VPC is a free product that is downloadable from > Microsoft. > > Windows Server 200_8_ includes HyperV virtualization that differs > significantly from the technology in the VPC product, which focuses on > desktop scenarios (although Windows Server 200_3_ is supported). I have not > tried for myself, but I understand there are some challenges getting FreeBSD > running correctly under HyperV. I mention this because you might assume that > whatever works under Windows 2003+VPC will work under Windows 2008 w/HyperV > and that may not be the case. We're running WS2008 with a WS2003 HyperV'd server. Performance (disk, network) sucks really badly and we are going to be pulling that VM off of HyperV. FreeBSD can't load the BTX with HyperV. It's as if it's unsupported (go figure!). I've ran VirtualPC as test boxes plenty of times -- works for the most part, but VMWare server/player might be a better product overall. I've played with VirtualBox too -- but it seemed bloated beyond reason. I think a purchased copy of VMWare quite honestly, is the best option out there to have UNIVERSAL, global access. And yes, I'm going to find that link I mentioned earlier and post it tomorrow. --Tim > > > Thanks in advance, > > Good luck! Let us know how it works out. > > > > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
RE: Recommendations for running FreeBSD as a guest OS
> I have a small network at work that, unfortunately, uses Windows 2003. Nothing unfortunate about using Windows 2003. It's well supported and well known. That's not a knock against any other OS, but if there are other reasons to use an OS other than FreeBSD, people shouldn't feel a need to denigrate or apologize for it (not saying that you are doing that specifically, but many people do). > I need a good mail server, but I do not have a budget for purchasing > additional software. That's what I love about FreeBSD :-) > Exchange requires too many hacks to configure a > catchall email account, and Exchange and I do not get along very well. I used to run a small Exchange 2000 (later Exchange 2003) system and it had a method by which all mail that didn't match an existing mailbox account could be routed to either a specific account or to a mailbox that could be accessed by other accounts. I don't recall the details, and I think someone else pointed you in the right direction already, but if you still have difficulty, let me know and I'll try to find out the exact steps. What version of Exchange would you run? Microsoft's Small Business Server product might be better suited, but that too might be too expensive. > So, today while brainstorming, I thought why not run FreeBSD as a guest > OS on the box. Any suggestions for the best way of doing this? I think that's a great idea. I've ran FreeBSD 7.0 as a guest on Windows XP, Vista and FBSD7.1 under the Windows 7 beta with good success. The host was running Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 with the latest service pack. There were some networking things I had to figure out, but I was impressed with the performance. I just checked and Windows Server 2003 is one of the supported operating systems. Note that VPC is a free product that is downloadable from Microsoft. Windows Server 200_8_ includes HyperV virtualization that differs significantly from the technology in the VPC product, which focuses on desktop scenarios (although Windows Server 200_3_ is supported). I have not tried for myself, but I understand there are some challenges getting FreeBSD running correctly under HyperV. I mention this because you might assume that whatever works under Windows 2003+VPC will work under Windows 2008 w/HyperV and that may not be the case. > Thanks in advance, Good luck! Let us know how it works out. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Recommendations for running FreeBSD as a guest OS
Bobby Walker wrote: > I have a small network at work that, unfortunately, uses Windows 2003. > I need a good mail server, but I do not have a budget for purchasing > additional software. Exchange requires too many hacks to configure a > catchall email account, and Exchange and I do not get along very well. > So, today while brainstorming, I thought why not run FreeBSD as a guest > OS on the box. Any suggestions for the best way of doing this? > Another options may be to just use the smtp and pop3 that comes with Win2K3. You'll see these in the "Add/Remove Windows Components" under "Add or Remove Software" of Control Panel. These were previously on the Options Pack CD from which you installed IIS, but when Win2K3 came out they were added. May not fit your requirements. But it is free and Exchange is high $dollar and in many situations is overkill. Postfix in a VM might suffice for a small load. Free: http://www.vmware.com/products/server/ The main problem I see is the default networking situation in most VM installs is NAT. This allows outbound/return traffic but will block incoming connection attempts. There are three different networking configurations you can choose from, and the one you want is bridge. It's also the most difficult to configure. I've used VirtualBox on a Linux machine for a while now but it's quite possible the VMware Server may be a little more mature for use on a Windows box. YMMV -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Recommendations for running FreeBSD as a guest OS
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:32:39 -0600 Bobby Walker wrote: >I have a small network at work that, unfortunately, uses Windows >2003. I need a good mail server, but I do not have a budget for >purchasing additional software. Exchange requires too many hacks to >configure a catchall email account, and Exchange and I do not get >along very well. So, today while brainstorming, I thought why not run >FreeBSD as a guest OS on the box. Any suggestions for the best way of >doing this? Actually, I know of several instances of Exchange with 'catchall mail boxes". It is, to a certain degree, version dependent. You can get the scripts and other information here. Google for more if you need it. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/324021 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb691132.aspx -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. Oscar Wilde signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Recommendations for running FreeBSD as a guest OS
On 14/2/09 06:28, Tim Judd wrote: > On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 22:32 -0600, Bobby Walker wrote: > >> I have a small network at work that, unfortunately, uses Windows 2003. >> I need a good mail server, but I do not have a budget for purchasing >> additional software. Exchange requires too many hacks to configure a >> catchall email account, and Exchange and I do not get along very well. >> So, today while brainstorming, I thought why not run FreeBSD as a guest >> OS on the box. Any suggestions for the best way of doing this? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Bobby >> > > There was a recommendation of another win32-based email server -- and I > have it bookmarked at work. From the single person that mentioned it, > he was praising it pretty well. > > When I get to work, I'll send it on your way. I just don't have a clue > what it was right now. > > >From what I can remember http://www.hmailserver.com/ is decent for a windows based free mailserver (smtp imap pop and imap.) Been a while since i used it and they seem to have closed the source for the latest version but its still free as in beer. Vince > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Recommendations for running FreeBSD as a guest OS
On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 22:32 -0600, Bobby Walker wrote: > I have a small network at work that, unfortunately, uses Windows 2003. > I need a good mail server, but I do not have a budget for purchasing > additional software. Exchange requires too many hacks to configure a > catchall email account, and Exchange and I do not get along very well. > So, today while brainstorming, I thought why not run FreeBSD as a guest > OS on the box. Any suggestions for the best way of doing this? > > Thanks in advance, > Bobby There was a recommendation of another win32-based email server -- and I have it bookmarked at work. From the single person that mentioned it, he was praising it pretty well. When I get to work, I'll send it on your way. I just don't have a clue what it was right now. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Recommendations for running FreeBSD as a guest OS
Bobby Walker schrieb: So, today while brainstorming, I thought why not run FreeBSD as a guest OS on the box. Any suggestions for the best way of doing this? If it has to run on top of W2K3 server I would suggest VMware server 2.0 which can be used for free (as in free beer). Don't expect it to deliver high performance, but it should be fine for a small duty server. Another option would be VirtualBox (free for private use) but there have been serious problems with freebsd guests in the past. bye, Uwe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
