Re: Regarding QuickCam webcams and FreeBSD
Sorry to bring up an old thread but if others catalog this list for searching later like I do then at least they will have this updated information. As suggested by Ted, I went out and looked for a webcam port and the cams supported by that port. PWCBSD - the author states that it should work with any webcam supported by the Linux pwc driver. A list of supported cams can be found here: http://raaf.atspace.org/ On 2/10/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go into the ports and build one of the webcam programs, get the list of supported cameras from it's docs, find one of these on ebay, is about the best you can do I think. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Simon Chang Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:06 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regarding QuickCam webcams and FreeBSD Ted, First of all, I am a fan of your FreeBSD and the Corporate Networking Guide. You have done an excellent job writing that book and I often refer to it for suggestions on specific topics. Regarding self-contained webcams, I realize that these gizmos are out there. But so far none of them have the two criteria I am looking for: 1) Wireless connectivity (802.11g preferred), and 2) VPN / IPsec capable. The reason is that I want to be able to move the camera at a moment's notice, and I don't want the images of my bedroom / study / backyard to be broadcast in the clear. However, I have not seen any webcam that has those two capabilities, so that's why I am trying to get them to work with Free and OpenBSD. SC On 2/1/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason there's little interest in this is that webcams are rapidly becoming completely self-contained. Lots of them today have an ethernet port, and integrated webserver in the camera. The need for a PC to be involved here for anything other than running a web browser to display output is pretty questionable. When network address translation first came out the only way you could get it was to used a modded open source UNIX on a PC with 2 nics. Then Cisco came out with it so you could use their routers to get it. Then linksys came out with cheap routers that had it. Nowadays, only the diehards are running FreeBSD nat routers with 2 nics in them. The same thing is happening with webcams. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Simon Chang Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:49 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Regarding QuickCam webcams and FreeBSD Howdy, I happen to have been doing quite a bit of research in this area. What I wanted to do was to set up a *nix box with a webcam and a wireless NIC, so that I can mount the headless machine in the bedroom to keep an eye on our seven-month-old baby. (Link between the *nix box and the home private network will be encrypted using IPsec VPN.) What I have found so far are the following: 1) The apps that I have found do not work with a wide variety of more recent makes of webcams. If you do a Google search on FreeBSD webcam or OpenBSD webcam, you actually see some tools that purportedly work with QuickCam Express or QuickCam B/W (or Color), and a handful of other models. 2) Logitech, the maker of QuickCam, used to make available technical specs and docs for the developers to write drivers with. Unfortunately, the company does not do that anymore, and anyone who wants to make a QuickCam-series work has to either reverse-engineer it, use available drivers and hope for the best, or run it under Windows. 3) By contrast, NetBSD and some Linux distros (so far I've heard promising things about Fedora Core 4 and I think Gentoo) have more development work going on for webcams. If FreeBSD doesn't work for you, try some of the other *nixes. HTH, SC - Hide quoted text - On 1/29/06, Xn Nooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a fancy Quickcam (face-tracking), though I have no idea how to make it work with FreeBSD. I installed qcamview, but when I run it as root, it says Not found Quickcam, or Permission denied. Anyone know anything about Quickcams on FreeBSD? I don't expect it to work, but it would be cool if it did. There seems to be very little information on the net about qcamview. I'd be happy to just snapshots with it. I'm using FreeBSD 6.0 and Fluxbox. The cam is USB 2.0. Any suggestions? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming
RE: Regarding QuickCam webcams and FreeBSD
Go into the ports and build one of the webcam programs, get the list of supported cameras from it's docs, find one of these on ebay, is about the best you can do I think. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Simon Chang Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:06 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regarding QuickCam webcams and FreeBSD Ted, First of all, I am a fan of your FreeBSD and the Corporate Networking Guide. You have done an excellent job writing that book and I often refer to it for suggestions on specific topics. Regarding self-contained webcams, I realize that these gizmos are out there. But so far none of them have the two criteria I am looking for: 1) Wireless connectivity (802.11g preferred), and 2) VPN / IPsec capable. The reason is that I want to be able to move the camera at a moment's notice, and I don't want the images of my bedroom / study / backyard to be broadcast in the clear. However, I have not seen any webcam that has those two capabilities, so that's why I am trying to get them to work with Free and OpenBSD. SC On 2/1/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason there's little interest in this is that webcams are rapidly becoming completely self-contained. Lots of them today have an ethernet port, and integrated webserver in the camera. The need for a PC to be involved here for anything other than running a web browser to display output is pretty questionable. When network address translation first came out the only way you could get it was to used a modded open source UNIX on a PC with 2 nics. Then Cisco came out with it so you could use their routers to get it. Then linksys came out with cheap routers that had it. Nowadays, only the diehards are running FreeBSD nat routers with 2 nics in them. The same thing is happening with webcams. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Simon Chang Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:49 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Regarding QuickCam webcams and FreeBSD Howdy, I happen to have been doing quite a bit of research in this area. What I wanted to do was to set up a *nix box with a webcam and a wireless NIC, so that I can mount the headless machine in the bedroom to keep an eye on our seven-month-old baby. (Link between the *nix box and the home private network will be encrypted using IPsec VPN.) What I have found so far are the following: 1) The apps that I have found do not work with a wide variety of more recent makes of webcams. If you do a Google search on FreeBSD webcam or OpenBSD webcam, you actually see some tools that purportedly work with QuickCam Express or QuickCam B/W (or Color), and a handful of other models. 2) Logitech, the maker of QuickCam, used to make available technical specs and docs for the developers to write drivers with. Unfortunately, the company does not do that anymore, and anyone who wants to make a QuickCam-series work has to either reverse-engineer it, use available drivers and hope for the best, or run it under Windows. 3) By contrast, NetBSD and some Linux distros (so far I've heard promising things about Fedora Core 4 and I think Gentoo) have more development work going on for webcams. If FreeBSD doesn't work for you, try some of the other *nixes. HTH, SC - Hide quoted text - On 1/29/06, Xn Nooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a fancy Quickcam (face-tracking), though I have no idea how to make it work with FreeBSD. I installed qcamview, but when I run it as root, it says Not found Quickcam, or Permission denied. Anyone know anything about Quickcams on FreeBSD? I don't expect it to work, but it would be cool if it did. There seems to be very little information on the net about qcamview. I'd be happy to just snapshots with it. I'm using FreeBSD 6.0 and Fluxbox. The cam is USB 2.0. Any suggestions? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/240 - Release Date: 1/25/2006 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.3/254 - Release Date: 2/8/2006
Re: Regarding QuickCam webcams and FreeBSD
Ted, First of all, I am a fan of your FreeBSD and the Corporate Networking Guide. You have done an excellent job writing that book and I often refer to it for suggestions on specific topics. Regarding self-contained webcams, I realize that these gizmos are out there. But so far none of them have the two criteria I am looking for: 1) Wireless connectivity (802.11g preferred), and 2) VPN / IPsec capable. The reason is that I want to be able to move the camera at a moment's notice, and I don't want the images of my bedroom / study / backyard to be broadcast in the clear. However, I have not seen any webcam that has those two capabilities, so that's why I am trying to get them to work with Free and OpenBSD. SC On 2/1/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason there's little interest in this is that webcams are rapidly becoming completely self-contained. Lots of them today have an ethernet port, and integrated webserver in the camera. The need for a PC to be involved here for anything other than running a web browser to display output is pretty questionable. When network address translation first came out the only way you could get it was to used a modded open source UNIX on a PC with 2 nics. Then Cisco came out with it so you could use their routers to get it. Then linksys came out with cheap routers that had it. Nowadays, only the diehards are running FreeBSD nat routers with 2 nics in them. The same thing is happening with webcams. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Simon Chang Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:49 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Regarding QuickCam webcams and FreeBSD Howdy, I happen to have been doing quite a bit of research in this area. What I wanted to do was to set up a *nix box with a webcam and a wireless NIC, so that I can mount the headless machine in the bedroom to keep an eye on our seven-month-old baby. (Link between the *nix box and the home private network will be encrypted using IPsec VPN.) What I have found so far are the following: 1) The apps that I have found do not work with a wide variety of more recent makes of webcams. If you do a Google search on FreeBSD webcam or OpenBSD webcam, you actually see some tools that purportedly work with QuickCam Express or QuickCam B/W (or Color), and a handful of other models. 2) Logitech, the maker of QuickCam, used to make available technical specs and docs for the developers to write drivers with. Unfortunately, the company does not do that anymore, and anyone who wants to make a QuickCam-series work has to either reverse-engineer it, use available drivers and hope for the best, or run it under Windows. 3) By contrast, NetBSD and some Linux distros (so far I've heard promising things about Fedora Core 4 and I think Gentoo) have more development work going on for webcams. If FreeBSD doesn't work for you, try some of the other *nixes. HTH, SC - Hide quoted text - On 1/29/06, Xn Nooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a fancy Quickcam (face-tracking), though I have no idea how to make it work with FreeBSD. I installed qcamview, but when I run it as root, it says Not found Quickcam, or Permission denied. Anyone know anything about Quickcams on FreeBSD? I don't expect it to work, but it would be cool if it did. There seems to be very little information on the net about qcamview. I'd be happy to just snapshots with it. I'm using FreeBSD 6.0 and Fluxbox. The cam is USB 2.0. Any suggestions? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/240 - Release Date: 1/25/2006 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Regarding QuickCam webcams and FreeBSD
The reason there's little interest in this is that webcams are rapidly becoming completely self-contained. Lots of them today have an ethernet port, and integrated webserver in the camera. The need for a PC to be involved here for anything other than running a web browser to display output is pretty questionable. When network address translation first came out the only way you could get it was to used a modded open source UNIX on a PC with 2 nics. Then Cisco came out with it so you could use their routers to get it. Then linksys came out with cheap routers that had it. Nowadays, only the diehards are running FreeBSD nat routers with 2 nics in them. The same thing is happening with webcams. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Simon Chang Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:49 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Regarding QuickCam webcams and FreeBSD Howdy, I happen to have been doing quite a bit of research in this area. What I wanted to do was to set up a *nix box with a webcam and a wireless NIC, so that I can mount the headless machine in the bedroom to keep an eye on our seven-month-old baby. (Link between the *nix box and the home private network will be encrypted using IPsec VPN.) What I have found so far are the following: 1) The apps that I have found do not work with a wide variety of more recent makes of webcams. If you do a Google search on FreeBSD webcam or OpenBSD webcam, you actually see some tools that purportedly work with QuickCam Express or QuickCam B/W (or Color), and a handful of other models. 2) Logitech, the maker of QuickCam, used to make available technical specs and docs for the developers to write drivers with. Unfortunately, the company does not do that anymore, and anyone who wants to make a QuickCam-series work has to either reverse-engineer it, use available drivers and hope for the best, or run it under Windows. 3) By contrast, NetBSD and some Linux distros (so far I've heard promising things about Fedora Core 4 and I think Gentoo) have more development work going on for webcams. If FreeBSD doesn't work for you, try some of the other *nixes. HTH, SC - Hide quoted text - On 1/29/06, Xn Nooby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a fancy Quickcam (face-tracking), though I have no idea how to make it work with FreeBSD. I installed qcamview, but when I run it as root, it says Not found Quickcam, or Permission denied. Anyone know anything about Quickcams on FreeBSD? I don't expect it to work, but it would be cool if it did. There seems to be very little information on the net about qcamview. I'd be happy to just snapshots with it. I'm using FreeBSD 6.0 and Fluxbox. The cam is USB 2.0. Any suggestions? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/240 - Release Date: 1/25/2006 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
