Re: Server hardware
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Scott Sipe csco...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm getting ready to buy a new server system (running FreeBSD of course) for a small business. I have always before bought off-the-shelf parts and built my own, but am thinking of getting a packaged system this time. I want something fairly horsey. Xeon(s), 8-16gb ram, several terabytes storage, etc. The system will run at least one VM (virtualbox) at all times, and I've been thinking about using an SSD for the system drive and database storage, and a RAID for the rest. My question -- are any server vendors well recommended for FreeBSD? I've looked at some seemingly decently priced Dells/HPs, but would appreciate any advice. Seems there are at times some hardware issues with some Dell controllers. Thanks, Scott ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Might I suggest checking out: http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html ? -- Nathan Vidican nat...@vidican.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server hardware
My question -- are any server vendors well recommended for FreeBSD? I bought a used HP Proliant DL385 for about $300 on ebay, then loaded it up with 8GB of RAM (making a total of 12GB) for another $200. Works great, FBSD 8.1 groks all the controllers, even produces appropriate syslog messages when I pull a disk out from the RAID and replace it. I got it when I realized it included a good remote console and the whole thing was about the same price as an add-on remote console for my old server. It's got six 73GB 15K rpm disks, for a total of 360GB usable very fast disk, which sounds like less than you want, but you get get these things with six hot swap SATA slots and put in whatever disks you want. They're kind of pricey when new, but you can usually find last year's model cheap on ebay. I also used to build my own, but at prices like this there's no point. It's noisy and power hungry, so I'd only put it in a data center, not in my office. R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server hardware
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Scott Sipe csco...@gmail.com wrote: My question -- are any server vendors well recommended for FreeBSD? I've looked at some seemingly decently priced Dells/HPs, but would appreciate any advice. Seems there are at times some hardware issues with some Dell controllers. http://www.ixsystems.com/ -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Server hardware
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:52:22AM -0400, Scott Sipe wrote: Hello, I'm getting ready to buy a new server system (running FreeBSD of course) for a small business. I have always before bought off-the-shelf parts and built my own, but am thinking of getting a packaged system this time. I want something fairly horsey. Xeon(s), 8-16gb ram, several terabytes storage, etc. The system will run at least one VM (virtualbox) at all times, and I've been thinking about using an SSD for the system drive and database storage, and a RAID for the rest. My question -- are any server vendors well recommended for FreeBSD? I've looked at some seemingly decently priced Dells/HPs, but would appreciate any advice. Seems there are at times some hardware issues with some Dell controllers. I don't know about recommended for FreeBSd, but they can come with FreeBSD loaded. Here are some addresses for hardware that is supposed to be very FreeBSD friendly.I haven't had any contact with any of them in quite a while, so I don't have any recent information. But I have heard each spoken well of in the past. http://www.ixsystems.com/ http://www.servaris.com/ This one used to be called 'FreeBSD Systems' Guess they have branched out or something. http://www.ironsystems.com/ http://eracks.com/ Besides these specialty systems I have done well with Dell PowerEdge and HP Servers, though I have only built 4 or 5 HP servers with FreeBSD. All worked well except one HP 350 arrived with a motherboard DOA. They replaced it promptly and it worked fine after that. jerry Thanks, Scott ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: server hardware
On Apr 17, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: Hi all, I'm looking to move my bsd box to a 1u rack (running out of room under the desk) The least expensive one I came across at dell is 900, can someone suggest , a more cost effective alternative? You can build your own for less depending on your spec'ed needs Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: server hardware
The box that currently runs is an old dimension, 400 mhz mirrored IDE 256 ram, so anything / everything out there on the market will be improvement, as far as putting it together I can most certainly do it, if it will be cost-effective, plus I love the thought of it. I'm not following you entirely on the pay more for rental but less for the box , can you elaborate a bit on that? -Original Message- From: Richard Collyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 4:57 PM To: Jean-Paul Natola; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: server hardware Jean-Paul Natola wrote: Hi all, I'm looking to move my bsd box to a 1u rack (running out of room under the desk) The least expensive one I came across at dell is 900, can someone suggest , a more cost effective alternative? Cost. Specs needed parts you can put in yourself. Need more info. Why not go 2U and pay more for rental but less for the box and equipment. You can always check on ebay for 1u cases on the cheap. Cheers Richard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: server hardware
Data centers charge for space in rack units per month. So a 2 unit case is more rental than a one unit model. If you want to build it yourself, which will be most cost effective, and rack space rental cost is not an issue, I would suggest getting a 3 unit case. A three unit case will take any motherboard and CPU. Smaller 1 unit and 2 unit cases are constricted by their size and heat dissipation and usually are limited to only certain motherboard and CPU combinations. Also depending on what type of hard drive system you want (RAID, or just a drive or two) the larger cases are more flexible. -Derek At 08:25 AM 4/18/2006, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: The box that currently runs is an old dimension, 400 mhz mirrored IDE 256 ram, so anything / everything out there on the market will be improvement, as far as putting it together I can most certainly do it, if it will be cost-effective, plus I love the thought of it. I'm not following you entirely on the pay more for rental but less for the box , can you elaborate a bit on that? -Original Message- From: Richard Collyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 4:57 PM To: Jean-Paul Natola; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: server hardware Jean-Paul Natola wrote: Hi all, I'm looking to move my bsd box to a 1u rack (running out of room under the desk) The least expensive one I came across at dell is 900, can someone suggest , a more cost effective alternative? Cost. Specs needed parts you can put in yourself. Need more info. Why not go 2U and pay more for rental but less for the box and equipment. You can always check on ebay for 1u cases on the cheap. Cheers Richard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: server hardware
From what I'm seeing , as far as pricing, a decent case is running about 150, cpu/mobo combo 250, add memory (150) , a pair of sata drives (120), and pci raid (40) , and I'm approaching 700 dollars. It *seems* (correct me if I'm wrong, or maybe I'm looking in the wrong places) these tigerdirect specials for 600+ dollars would be the most effective/ From: Derek Ragona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:44 AM To: Jean-Paul Natola; Richard Collyer; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: server hardware Data centers charge for space in rack units per month. So a 2 unit case is more rental than a one unit model. If you want to build it yourself, which will be most cost effective, and rack space rental cost is not an issue, I would suggest getting a 3 unit case. A three unit case will take any motherboard and CPU. Smaller 1 unit and 2 unit cases are constricted by their size and heat dissipation and usually are limited to only certain motherboard and CPU combinations. Also depending on what type of hard drive system you want (RAID, or just a drive or two) the larger cases are more flexible. -Derek At 08:25 AM 4/18/2006, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: The box that currently runs is an old dimension, 400 mhz mirrored IDE 256 ram, so anything / everything out there on the market will be improvement, as far as putting it together I can most certainly do it, if it will be cost-effective, plus I love the thought of it. I'm not following you entirely on the pay more for rental but less for the box , can you elaborate a bit on that? -Original Message- From: Richard Collyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 4:57 PM To: Jean-Paul Natola; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: server hardware Jean-Paul Natola wrote: Hi all, I'm looking to move my bsd box to a 1u rack (running out of room under the desk) The least expensive one I came across at dell is 900, can someone suggest , a more cost effective alternative? Cost. Specs needed parts you can put in yourself. Need more info. Why not go 2U and pay more for rental but less for the box and equipment. You can always check on ebay for 1u cases on the cheap. Cheers Richard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: server hardware
You'll do best to select your individual hardware and then shop for it one at a time, searching for the best prices. You can select motherboards at the manufacturer's websites. You will get better performance with RAID build on the motherboard. Newer motherboards also support SATA-300, so you will want drives in that speed too (most 300 GB and larger are available in SATA-300.) New motherboards will also support dual core CPU's which are now the same price as hyperthreaded single core CPU's. These motherboards will also support faster DDR2 RAM. Rack cases cost more, but get a good brand that supports different cooling options and quieter operation on the larger 3U and 4U models. You may want to use a couple shopping bots to help find the best prices once you have your shopping list complete. -Derek At 09:16 AM 4/18/2006, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: From what I'm seeing , as far as pricing, a decent case is running about 150, cpu/mobo combo 250, add memory (150) , a pair of sata drives (120), and pci raid (40) , and I'm approaching 700 dollars. It *seems* (correct me if I'm wrong, or maybe I'm looking in the wrong places) these tigerdirect specials for 600+ dollars would be the most effective/ From: Derek Ragona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:44 AM To: Jean-Paul Natola; Richard Collyer; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: server hardware Data centers charge for space in rack units per month. So a 2 unit case is more rental than a one unit model. If you want to build it yourself, which will be most cost effective, and rack space rental cost is not an issue, I would suggest getting a 3 unit case. A three unit case will take any motherboard and CPU. Smaller 1 unit and 2 unit cases are constricted by their size and heat dissipation and usually are limited to only certain motherboard and CPU combinations. Also depending on what type of hard drive system you want (RAID, or just a drive or two) the larger cases are more flexible. -Derek At 08:25 AM 4/18/2006, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: The box that currently runs is an old dimension, 400 mhz mirrored IDE 256 ram, so anything / everything out there on the market will be improvement, as far as putting it together I can most certainly do it, if it will be cost-effective, plus I love the thought of it. I'm not following you entirely on the pay more for rental but less for the box , can you elaborate a bit on that? -Original Message- From: Richard Collyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 4:57 PM To: Jean-Paul Natola; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: server hardware Jean-Paul Natola wrote: Hi all, I'm looking to move my bsd box to a 1u rack (running out of room under the desk) The least expensive one I came across at dell is 900, can someone suggest , a more cost effective alternative? Cost. Specs needed parts you can put in yourself. Need more info. Why not go 2U and pay more for rental but less for the box and equipment. You can always check on ebay for 1u cases on the cheap. Cheers Richard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: server hardware
Jean-Paul Natola wrote: Hi all, I'm looking to move my bsd box to a 1u rack (running out of room under the desk) The least expensive one I came across at dell is 900, can someone suggest , a more cost effective alternative? Cost. Specs needed parts you can put in yourself. Need more info. Why not go 2U and pay more for rental but less for the box and equipment. You can always check on ebay for 1u cases on the cheap. Cheers Richard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
