ports vs configure/make/make install Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC]

On Oct 12, 2006, at 1:26 AM, Juha Saarinen wrote:


On 10/11/06, Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Yeah. I used to do Solaris admin (Jesus, you'd never know  
it...), and usually prefer installing software the ./configure -->  
make && make install route.  Especially since a ports install  
doesn't tell you anything about where the software is put


It most certainly does, and also allows you to change the locations of
the software to be installed. Have a look at the Makefile in the
ports.


While theoretically you can change the location where stuff is put  
using ports, it does not always work out that well (I admit I could  
have screwed up).  Mainly, some ports rely on other ports.  I  
installed a bunch of stuff (gnu build stuff) that some ports relied  
on in my own dir /usr/public as a prefix.  The ports system should  
know about this (ie at later install time) but certain ports that  
rely on this stuff seem to have it hardwired that this stuff is in / 
usr/local and these ports fail.  So may ports can easily be changed,  
some ports can't.


I use ports for things like build tools, system tools, editors,   
compilers. and certain standard SW we use.  I use configure/make etc  
for my MTA, apache, php, my imap and pop servers, and lots of my  
service level software that I find much easier to customize myself  
without jumping through ports.


best
Chad




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Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[Juha Saarinen]

On 10/11/06, Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Yeah. I used to do Solaris admin (Jesus, you'd never know it...), and usually prefer 
installing software the ./configure --> make && make install route.  Especially 
since a ports install doesn't tell you anything about where the software is put


It most certainly does, and also allows you to change the locations of
the software to be installed. Have a look at the Makefile in the
ports.


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Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[jan gestre]

On 10/10/06, Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


X-No-Archive: true

  > uninstall cyrus and install dovecot from the ports tree. its small,
> lightweight, and fast.
>
> are you trying to install stuff without using the ports tree?

  Yeah. I used to do Solaris admin (Jesus, you'd never know it...), and
usually prefer installing software the ./configure --> make && make install
route.  Especially since a ports install doesn't tell you anything about
where the software is put

  D.


use the whereis command to know where it is installed. FYI, a port install
will tell you where the apps was installed after finishing.


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Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[Eric]

Desmond Coughlan wrote:
> X-No-Archive: true
>
>   *sigh*
>
> rachi# ./configure --with-bdb=/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.5 
> --with-sasl=/usr/local/include/sasl
> ...
> checking for sasl/sasl.h... no
>   configure: error: Cannot continue without libsasl2.
>   Get it from ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/cyrus-mail/.
> 
>   But ... 
>
> rachi# ls /usr/local/include/sasl/sasl.h
>   /usr/local/include/sasl/sasl.h

uninstall cyrus and install dovecot from the ports tree. its small,
lightweight, and fast.

are you trying to install stuff without using the ports tree?
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RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[Desmond Coughlan]

X-No-Archive: true
   
  > uninstall cyrus and install dovecot from the ports tree. its small,
> lightweight, and fast.
> 
> are you trying to install stuff without using the ports tree?
   
  Yeah. I used to do Solaris admin (Jesus, you'd never know it...), and usually 
prefer installing software the ./configure --> make && make install route.  
Especially since a ports install doesn't tell you anything about where the 
software is put
   
  D.
   
  
 


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RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[Desmond Coughlan]

X-No-Archive: true
   
  *sigh*
   
rachi# ./configure --with-bdb=/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.5 
--with-sasl=/usr/local/include/sasl
...
checking for sasl/sasl.h... no
  configure: error: Cannot continue without libsasl2.
  Get it from ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/cyrus-mail/.

  But ... 
   
rachi# ls /usr/local/include/sasl/sasl.h
  /usr/local/include/sasl/sasl.h
   
  D.


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RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[Desmond Coughlan]

X-No-Archive: true
   
  > try to telnet port 143, if you can't connect it means you don't have an 
IMAP server 
   
  Thanks, yes I _thought_ that I had installed the Cyrus server from the ports 
collection
   
  A manual install is running, as I write these words.
   
  D.


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Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[Michael S]

I didn't follow all the "dialog". But if the only
thing desired is a cheapskate webmail interface, as
the title suggests, would Usermin be an option?

--- jan gestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 10/9/06, Desmond Coughlan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I did everything mentioned in that HOWTO. 
> Still no luck.  Following
> > someone else's advice, I tried to install
> Thunderbird on another machine,
> > and connect to the server on port 143.  It failed.
> >
> > D.
> >
> 
> try to telnet port 143, if you can't connect it
> means you don't have an IMAP
> server running, i suggest you use dovecot or
> courier-imap,  i prefer dovecot
> though.
> 
> HTH
> 
> *jan gestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* a �crit :
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/9/06, Desmond Coughlan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yep, I've got that .. I tried logging in, and it
> took me directly to
> > > htdocs/index.html.
> > >
> > > Is it because the db isn't configured properly
> ?.
> > >
> > > D.
> > >
> >
> > were you able to  install the roundcube database?
> did you configure
> > db.inc.php?
> > just follow this howto http://fak3r.com/?p=67 this
> is the same howto i've
> > used.
> >
> > hth
> >
> >  *jan gestre < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>* a �crit :
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/8/06, jan gestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/6/06, Desmond Coughlan <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > you may want to try roundcube
> http://www.roundcube.net although it's
> > > > > still on beta the interface's rocks, nothing
> you ever experienced before,
> > > > > certainly cooler than squirrelmail with AJAX
> like interface.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Interesting... OK, I've got roundcube
> installed, the tables are
> > > > > created, postgreSQL is running, apache is
> recompiled for PhP4 (which is
> > > > > installed also) ... oh, and I've installed
> IMAP4.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now what ?
> > > > >
> > > > > My question, I suppose, is .. what is the
> address used to access the
> > > > > web interface?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > you need to configure main.inc.php and
> db.inc.php, usually just your
> > > > username will do but if you can't, try
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > >
> > > look for this part in
> roundcubemail/config/main.inc.php :
> > >
> > > // Automatically add this domain to user names
> for login
> > > // Only for IMAP servers that require full
> e-mail addresses for login
> > > // Specify an array with 'host' => 'domain'
> values to support multiple
> > > hosts
> > > $rcmail_config['username_domain'] = '';
> > >
> > > // This domain will be used to form e-mail
> addresses of new users
> > > // Specify an array with 'host' => 'domain'
> values to support multiple
> > > hosts
> > > $rcmail_config['mail_domain'] = ' sample.org';
> > >
> > > just replace sample.org with your fqdn and your
> done!
> > >
> > > username: user1
> > > password: *
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
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Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[jan gestre]

On 10/9/06, Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Yes, I did everything mentioned in that HOWTO.  Still no luck.  Following
someone else's advice, I tried to install Thunderbird on another machine,
and connect to the server on port 143.  It failed.

D.



try to telnet port 143, if you can't connect it means you don't have an IMAP
server running, i suggest you use dovecot or courier-imap,  i prefer dovecot
though.

HTH

*jan gestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* a écrit :




On 10/9/06, Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yep, I've got that .. I tried logging in, and it took me directly to
> htdocs/index.html.
>
> Is it because the db isn't configured properly ?.
>
> D.
>

were you able to  install the roundcube database? did you configure
db.inc.php?
just follow this howto http://fak3r.com/?p=67 this is the same howto i've
used.

hth

 *jan gestre < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>* a écrit :
>
>
>
> On 10/8/06, jan gestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/6/06, Desmond Coughlan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > you may want to try roundcube http://www.roundcube.net although it's
> > > still on beta the interface's rocks, nothing you ever experienced before,
> > > certainly cooler than squirrelmail with AJAX like interface.
> > >
> > >
> > > Interesting... OK, I've got roundcube installed, the tables are
> > > created, postgreSQL is running, apache is recompiled for PhP4 (which is
> > > installed also) ... oh, and I've installed IMAP4.
> > >
> > > Now what ?
> > >
> > > My question, I suppose, is .. what is the address used to access the
> > > web interface?
> > >
> > >
> > you need to configure main.inc.php and db.inc.php, usually just your
> > username will do but if you can't, try [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
> look for this part in roundcubemail/config/main.inc.php :
>
> // Automatically add this domain to user names for login
> // Only for IMAP servers that require full e-mail addresses for login
> // Specify an array with 'host' => 'domain' values to support multiple
> hosts
> $rcmail_config['username_domain'] = '';
>
> // This domain will be used to form e-mail addresses of new users
> // Specify an array with 'host' => 'domain' values to support multiple
> hosts
> $rcmail_config['mail_domain'] = ' sample.org';
>
> just replace sample.org with your fqdn and your done!
>
> username: user1
> password: *
>
> HTH
>
>
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Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC]

On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:21 AM, Desmond Coughlan wrote:

Yes, I did everything mentioned in that HOWTO.  Still no luck.   
Following someone else's advice, I tried to install Thunderbird on  
another machine, and connect to the server on port 143.  It failed.


You need to have an IMAP server running before roundcube can  
connect.  It sounds like you do not have an IMAP server running on  
the system.  Port 143 is the IMAP port.  roundcube (horde/ 
squirrelmail, etc) are not IMAP servers, they are clients.


Chad

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RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[Desmond Coughlan]

Yes, I did everything mentioned in that HOWTO.  Still no luck.  Following 
someone else's advice, I tried to install Thunderbird on another machine, and 
connect to the server on port 143.  It failed.
   
  D.

jan gestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
  

  On 10/9/06, Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Yep, I've got that 
.. I tried logging in, and it took me directly to htdocs/index.html.
   
  Is it because the db isn't configured properly ?.
   
  D.
  
were you able to  install the roundcube database? did you configure db.inc.php?
just follow this howto http://fak3r.com/?p=67 this is the same howto i've used.

hth 


jan gestre < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :


  On 10/8/06, jan gestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   

  On 10/6/06, Desmond Coughlan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
you may want to try roundcube http://www.roundcube.net although it's still on 
beta the interface's rocks, nothing you ever experienced before, certainly 
cooler than squirrelmail with AJAX like interface. 
  
Interesting... OK, I've got roundcube installed, the tables are created, 
postgreSQL is running, apache is recompiled for PhP4 (which is installed also) 
... oh, and I've installed IMAP4. 
   
  Now what ?  
   
  My question, I suppose, is .. what is the address used to access the web 
interface?
   

you need to configure main.inc.php and db.inc.php, usually just your username 
will do but if you can't, try [EMAIL PROTECTED]


look for this part in roundcubemail/config/main.inc.php :

// Automatically add this domain to user names for login
// Only for IMAP servers that require full e-mail addresses for login
// Specify an array with 'host' => 'domain' values to support multiple hosts
$rcmail_config['username_domain'] = ''; 

// This domain will be used to form e-mail addresses of new users
// Specify an array with 'host' => 'domain' values to support multiple hosts 
$rcmail_config['mail_domain'] = ' sample.org';

just replace sample.org with your fqdn and your done! 

username: user1
password: *

HTH



  
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Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[jan gestre]

On 10/9/06, Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Yep, I've got that .. I tried logging in, and it took me directly to
htdocs/index.html.

Is it because the db isn't configured properly ?.

D.



were you able to  install the roundcube database? did you configure
db.inc.php?
just follow this howto http://fak3r.com/?p=67 this is the same howto i've
used.

hth

*jan gestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* a écrit :




On 10/8/06, jan gestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 10/6/06, Desmond Coughlan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > you may want to try roundcube http://www.roundcube.net although it's
> > still on beta the interface's rocks, nothing you ever experienced before,
> > certainly cooler than squirrelmail with AJAX like interface.
> >
> >
> > Interesting... OK, I've got roundcube installed, the tables are
> > created, postgreSQL is running, apache is recompiled for PhP4 (which is
> > installed also) ... oh, and I've installed IMAP4.
> >
> > Now what ?
> >
> > My question, I suppose, is .. what is the address used to access the
> > web interface?
> >
> >
> you need to configure main.inc.php and db.inc.php, usually just your
> username will do but if you can't, try [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

look for this part in roundcubemail/config/main.inc.php :

// Automatically add this domain to user names for login
// Only for IMAP servers that require full e-mail addresses for login
// Specify an array with 'host' => 'domain' values to support multiple
hosts
$rcmail_config['username_domain'] = '';

// This domain will be used to form e-mail addresses of new users
// Specify an array with 'host' => 'domain' values to support multiple
hosts
$rcmail_config['mail_domain'] = 'sample.org';

just replace sample.org with your fqdn and your done!

username: user1
password: *

HTH


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RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[Desmond Coughlan]

Yep, I've got that .. I tried logging in, and it took me directly to 
htdocs/index.html.
   
  Is it because the db isn't configured properly ?.
   
  D.

jan gestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
  

  On 10/8/06, jan gestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  

  On 10/6/06, Desmond Coughlan < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
you may want to try roundcube http://www.roundcube.net although it's still on 
beta the interface's rocks, nothing you ever experienced before, certainly 
cooler than squirrelmail with AJAX like interface. 
  
Interesting... OK, I've got roundcube installed, the tables are created, 
postgreSQL is running, apache is recompiled for PhP4 (which is installed also) 
... oh, and I've installed IMAP4. 
   
  Now what ?  
   
  My question, I suppose, is .. what is the address used to access the web 
interface?
   

you need to configure main.inc.php and db.inc.php, usually just your username 
will do but if you can't, try [EMAIL PROTECTED]


look for this part in roundcubemail/config/main.inc.php :

// Automatically add this domain to user names for login
// Only for IMAP servers that require full e-mail addresses for login
// Specify an array with 'host' => 'domain' values to support multiple hosts
$rcmail_config['username_domain'] = '';

// This domain will be used to form e-mail addresses of new users
// Specify an array with 'host' => 'domain' values to support multiple hosts 
$rcmail_config['mail_domain'] = 'sample.org';

just replace sample.org with your fqdn and your done! 

username: user1
password: *

HTH



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Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[jan gestre]

On 10/8/06, jan gestre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




On 10/6/06, Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> you may want to try roundcube http://www.roundcube.net although it's
> still on beta the interface's rocks, nothing you ever experienced before,
> certainly cooler than squirrelmail with AJAX like interface.
>
>
> Interesting... OK, I've got roundcube installed, the tables are created,
> postgreSQL is running, apache is recompiled for PhP4 (which is installed
> also) ... oh, and I've installed IMAP4.
>
> Now what ?
>
> My question, I suppose, is .. what is the address used to access the web
> interface?
>
>
you need to configure main.inc.php and db.inc.php, usually just your
username will do but if you can't, try [EMAIL PROTECTED]



look for this part in roundcubemail/config/main.inc.php :

// Automatically add this domain to user names for login
// Only for IMAP servers that require full e-mail addresses for login
// Specify an array with 'host' => 'domain' values to support multiple hosts
$rcmail_config['username_domain'] = '';

// This domain will be used to form e-mail addresses of new users
// Specify an array with 'host' => 'domain' values to support multiple hosts
$rcmail_config['mail_domain'] = 'sample.org';

just replace sample.org with your fqdn and your done!

username: user1
password: *

HTH
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Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[jan gestre]

On 10/6/06, Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




you may want to try roundcube http://www.roundcube.net although it's still
on beta the interface's rocks, nothing you ever experienced before,
certainly cooler than squirrelmail with AJAX like interface.


Interesting... OK, I've got roundcube installed, the tables are created,
postgreSQL is running, apache is recompiled for PhP4 (which is installed
also) ... oh, and I've installed IMAP4.

Now what ?

My question, I suppose, is .. what is the address used to access the web
interface?



you need to configure main.inc.php and db.inc.php, usually just your
username will do but if you can't, try [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[Desmond Coughlan]

 
you may want to try roundcube http://www.roundcube.net although it's still on 
beta the interface's rocks, nothing you ever experienced before, certainly 
cooler than squirrelmail with AJAX like interface. 
  
Interesting... OK, I've got roundcube installed, the tables are created, 
postgreSQL is running, apache is recompiled for PhP4 (which is installed also) 
... oh, and I've installed IMAP4.
   
  Now what ?  
   
  My question, I suppose, is .. what is the address used to access the web 
interface?
   
  D.


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RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

[Desmond Coughlan]

Thanks for that!  We've got sendmail running now, and apache, and I have fond 
memories of sendmail.cf.  :=)
   
  D.

John Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
  On Wednesday 04 October 2006 12:54, Desmond Coughlan wrote:

> Now we just need forums and webmail. The latter will be
> http://www.phpbb.com/ but for webmail, we're having difficulty finding a
> free solution. ismail won't install from the ports, and other than that,
> everything I've found looks to be in the region of 250 $US. As I believe
> I've mentioned, the organisation is a school, and that sort of money just
> isn't in the kitty. So my options are to write it in perl myself... oh
> G-d, we want it to be working before Passover 2010! Or we find an open
> source version.

Horde+Imp, SquirrelMail, and OpenWebMail all spring immediately to mind, and 
all should be in ports. I use Horde on my mail server and think it's great; 
very flexible and powerful. It is a bit cumbersome to get running and to 
upgrade, but that aspect continues to improve. The other two are a bit more 
basic but each has a wide following.

JN



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