Re: 1280x800 display, i810, 915, etc etc etc

[Ben Paley]

On Friday 10 June 2005 19:50, Remington L wrote:
> It is also not officially supported by Xorg. I am told by the driver
> developer 6.8.3 will fully support it(hopefully eliminating the need for
> any VBIOS workaround)

I think I'll wait till then... my system's working, and 6.8.3 won't be long.

Thanks a lot, everyone.

Cheers,
Ben
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Re: 1280x800 display, i810, 915, etc etc etc

[Remington L]

It is also not officially supported by Xorg. I am told by the driver 
developer 6.8.3 will fully support it(hopefully eliminating the need for any 
VBIOS workaround)

On 6/10/05, Craig Kleski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Friday 10 June 2005 07:27 am, Ben Paley wrote:
> > On Thursday 09 June 2005 23:09, Remington L wrote:
> > > Correction, sorry for the previously post(I'm at work). The problem
> > > lies with the Intel VBIOS not reporting the correct resolution to
> > > Xorg. As a workaround you need to modify the VBIOS and use an
> > > updated i810 driver. Here is the Xorg i810 driver:
> > > http://www.fairlite.demon.co.uk/intel.html
> > > To modify the VBIOS please install and run sysutils/915resolution.
> > > Thank'll fix it!
> >
> > I shouldn't complain because it seems actually to be running at
> > 1280x800 at last (at least, kde display manager tells me so, and
> > Opera reports it using screen.availHeight and screen.availWidth!),
> > but there are a couple of odd things going on...
> >
> > A) I ran 915resolution before doing all the things I did to get it
> > working, resetting all of the 1280x1024 modes to 1280x800. But it
> > only works on the memory copy of the VBIOS, and, indeed, this morning
> > when I rebooted, and still now, 915resolution -l gives three modes at
> > 1280x1024 and none at 1280x800... AND YET my screen is running
> > happily at 1280x800!
> >
> > B) None of my attempts to use the i810 driver came to anything. If I
> > added Chipset "915G" I would get slightly different errors, but never
> > a working screen (though interestingly I managed to get as far as
> > hearing the KDE startup sound even when I couldn't see anything!). My
> > current xorg.conf uses the generic vesa driver.
> >
> > So the two things that I was concentrating on - the VBIOS and the
> > driver, turn out not to have been the real issues at all. Heaven
> > knows *what* the real issues were... it all just goes to show that X
> > configuration is black magic, and I could just as easily have waved a
> > chicken at it for the same result, and probably quicker (though not
> > as cheap, of course).
> >
> > If anyone is interested, I will be glad to send my xorg.conf, and
> > logs and all the rest of it.
> >
> > Thank you all very much for your help! I may be none the wiser, but I
> > am much happier!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ben
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> IIRC, i915 agp is not supported in -stable
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=80396
> 
> Somewhere in this PR is a patch for i915 agp support. Theoretically it
> should allow you to use the i810 driver and not the VESA driver.
> 
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Re: 1280x800 display, i810, 915, etc etc etc

[Craig Kleski]

On Friday 10 June 2005 07:27 am, Ben Paley wrote:
> On Thursday 09 June 2005 23:09, Remington L wrote:
> > Correction, sorry for the previously post(I'm at work). The problem
> > lies with the Intel VBIOS not reporting the correct resolution to
> > Xorg. As a workaround you need to modify the VBIOS and use an
> > updated i810 driver. Here is the Xorg i810 driver:
> > http://www.fairlite.demon.co.uk/intel.html
> >  To modify the VBIOS please install and run sysutils/915resolution.
> >  Thank'll fix it!
>
> I shouldn't complain because it seems actually to be running at
> 1280x800 at last (at least, kde display manager tells me so, and
> Opera reports it using screen.availHeight and screen.availWidth!),
> but there are a couple of odd things going on...
>
> A) I ran 915resolution before doing all the things I did to get it
> working, resetting all of the 1280x1024 modes to 1280x800. But it
> only works on the memory copy of the VBIOS, and, indeed, this morning
> when I rebooted, and still now, 915resolution -l gives three modes at
> 1280x1024 and none at 1280x800... AND YET my screen is running
> happily at 1280x800!
>
> B) None of my attempts to use the i810 driver came to anything. If I
> added Chipset "915G" I would get slightly different errors, but never
> a working screen (though interestingly I managed to get as far as
> hearing the KDE startup sound even when I couldn't see anything!). My
> current xorg.conf uses the generic vesa driver.
>
> So the two things that I was concentrating on - the VBIOS and the
> driver, turn out not to have been the real issues at all. Heaven
> knows *what* the real issues were... it all just goes to show that X
> configuration is black magic, and I could just as easily have waved a
> chicken at it for the same result, and probably quicker (though not
> as cheap, of course).
>
> If anyone is interested, I will be glad to send my xorg.conf, and
> logs and all the rest of it.
>
> Thank you all very much for your help! I may be none the wiser, but I
> am much happier!
>
> Cheers,
> Ben
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IIRC, i915 agp is not supported in -stable

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=80396

Somewhere in this PR is a patch for i915 agp support.  Theoretically it 
should allow you to use the i810 driver and not the VESA driver.

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Re: 1280x800 display, i810, 915, etc etc etc

[Ben Paley]

On Thursday 09 June 2005 23:09, Remington L wrote:
> Correction, sorry for the previously post(I'm at work). The problem lies
> with the Intel VBIOS not reporting the correct resolution to Xorg. As a
> workaround you need to modify the VBIOS and use an updated i810 driver.
> Here is the Xorg i810 driver:
> http://www.fairlite.demon.co.uk/intel.html
>  To modify the VBIOS please install and run sysutils/915resolution.
>  Thank'll fix it!

I shouldn't complain because it seems actually to be running at 1280x800 at 
last (at least, kde display manager tells me so, and Opera reports it using 
screen.availHeight and screen.availWidth!), but there are a couple of odd 
things going on...

A) I ran 915resolution before doing all the things I did to get it working, 
resetting all of the 1280x1024 modes to 1280x800. But it only works on the 
memory copy of the VBIOS, and, indeed, this morning when I rebooted, and 
still now, 915resolution -l gives three modes at 1280x1024 and none at 
1280x800... AND YET my screen is running happily at 1280x800!

B) None of my attempts to use the i810 driver came to anything. If I added 
Chipset "915G" I would get slightly different errors, but never a working 
screen (though interestingly I managed to get as far as hearing the KDE 
startup sound even when I couldn't see anything!). My current xorg.conf uses 
the generic vesa driver.

So the two things that I was concentrating on - the VBIOS and the driver, turn 
out not to have been the real issues at all. Heaven knows *what* the real 
issues were... it all just goes to show that X configuration is black magic, 
and I could just as easily have waved a chicken at it for the same result, 
and probably quicker (though not as cheap, of course).

If anyone is interested, I will be glad to send my xorg.conf, and logs and all 
the rest of it.

Thank you all very much for your help! I may be none the wiser, but I am much 
happier!

Cheers,
Ben
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Re: 1280x800 display, i810, 915, etc etc etc

[Remington L]

Correction, sorry for the previously post(I'm at work). The problem lies 
with the Intel VBIOS not reporting the correct resolution to Xorg. As a 
workaround you need to modify the VBIOS and use an updated i810 driver. Here 
is the Xorg i810 driver:
http://www.fairlite.demon.co.uk/intel.html
 To modify the VBIOS please install and run sysutils/915resolution.
 Thank'll fix it!

 On 6/9/05, Remington L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> This is a common issue. Ben please contact me off the list. I ran into 
> this EXACT same problem. A quick fix is a port of 810resolution. I submitted 
> it for commit into ports a month ago but still not in the tree. Again 
> contact me off the list and ill give you everything you need( Sorry if you 
> dont Ill forget to send you all the stuff when I get home) 
> 
> On 6/9/05, Ben Paley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > 
> > > > I'm running 5.4 on my shiny new dell inspiron 6000 - there are a few
> > > > things yet to sort out, and one of them is X. Amazing. In winxp it 
> > > > runs at 1280x800, 16bit (I think, or 24? can't remember off-hand, 
> > i'd
> > > > be happy with 8 for the moment!). And it seems I need the i810
> > > > Generic driver from xorg.
> > 
> > > You might need 
> > > agp_load="YES"
> > >in your /boot/loader.conf . See also
> > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html 
> > 
> > >(Section 5.4.3.1 ).
> > 
> > Thanks a lot - i think the agp thing may have helped. I compiled it in 
> > instead
> > of loading it dynamically
> > 
> > > > At the moment, I'm working with no xorg.conf at all! I get 800x600,
> > > > not sure of colour depth. But I really want / need to take advantage
> > > > of the full screen resolution. I understand I should set things up 
> > to
> > > > run 915resolution on boot, to teach the vbios about 1280x800. But 
> > > > I've yet make or find an xorg.conf that even gives me a display.
> > 
> > > You may want to check /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log to see if any 1280x800 modes
> > > are recognized. If not, you may need to use 855patch: 
> > 
> > I think this is what 915resolution does for me.
> > 
> > > ModeLine "1280x800" 71.0 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 802 808 823
> > 
> > Thanks for this.
> > 
> > > Use the i810 driver.
> > 
> > Weirdly, although everyone says to use i810, I could only make it work 
> > with 
> > the vesa driver!
> > 
> > Anyway, thanks a lot both of you - between you and some more googling I
> > finally seem to have got it going!
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Ben
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Re: 1280x800 display, i810, 915, etc etc etc

[Remington L]

This is a common issue. Ben please contact me off the list. I ran into this 
EXACT same problem. A quick fix is a port of 810resolution. I submitted it 
for commit into ports a month ago but still not in the tree. Again contact 
me off the list and ill give you everything you need( Sorry if you dont Ill 
forget to send you all the stuff when I get home)

On 6/9/05, Ben Paley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> > > I'm running 5.4 on my shiny new dell inspiron 6000 - there are a few
> > > things yet to sort out, and one of them is X. Amazing. In winxp it
> > > runs at 1280x800, 16bit (I think, or 24? can't remember off-hand, i'd
> > > be happy with 8 for the moment!). And it seems I need the i810
> > > Generic driver from xorg.
> 
> > You might need
> > agp_load="YES"
> >in your /boot/loader.conf . See also
> >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html
> >(Section 5.4.3.1 ).
> 
> Thanks a lot - i think the agp thing may have helped. I compiled it in 
> instead
> of loading it dynamically
> 
> > > At the moment, I'm working with no xorg.conf at all! I get 800x600,
> > > not sure of colour depth. But I really want / need to take advantage
> > > of the full screen resolution. I understand I should set things up to
> > > run 915resolution on boot, to teach the vbios about 1280x800. But
> > > I've yet make or find an xorg.conf that even gives me a display.
> 
> > You may want to check /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log to see if any 1280x800 modes
> > are recognized. If not, you may need to use 855patch:
> 
> I think this is what 915resolution does for me.
> 
> > ModeLine "1280x800" 71.0 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 802 808 823
> 
> Thanks for this.
> 
> > Use the i810 driver.
> 
> Weirdly, although everyone says to use i810, I could only make it work 
> with
> the vesa driver!
> 
> Anyway, thanks a lot both of you - between you and some more googling I
> finally seem to have got it going!
> 
> Thanks,
> Ben
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Re: 1280x800 display, i810, 915, etc etc etc

[Ben Paley]

> > I'm running 5.4 on my shiny new dell inspiron 6000 - there are a few
> > things yet to sort out, and one of them is X. Amazing. In winxp it
> > runs at 1280x800, 16bit (I think, or 24? can't remember off-hand, i'd
> > be happy with 8 for the moment!). And it seems I need the i810
> > Generic driver from xorg.

> You might need 
>agp_load="YES"
>in your /boot/loader.conf . See also
>http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html
>(Section 5.4.3.1).

Thanks a lot - i think the agp thing may have helped. I compiled it in instead 
of loading it dynamically

> > At the moment, I'm working with no xorg.conf at all! I get 800x600,
> > not sure of colour depth. But I really want / need to take advantage
> > of the full screen resolution. I understand I should set things up to
> > run 915resolution on boot, to teach the vbios about 1280x800. But
> > I've yet make or find an xorg.conf that even gives me a display.

> You may want to check /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log to see if any 1280x800 modes
> are recognized.  If not, you may need to use 855patch:

I think this is what 915resolution  does for me.

> ModeLine "1280x800" 71.0 1280  1328  1360 1440 800  802  808 823

Thanks for this.

> Use the i810 driver. 

Weirdly, although everyone says to use i810, I could only make it work with 
the vesa driver!

Anyway, thanks a lot both of you - between you and some more googling I 
finally seem to have got it going!

Thanks,
Ben
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Re: 1280x800 display, i810, 915, etc etc etc

[P.U.Kruppa]

On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Ben Paley wrote:


Hello,

I'm running 5.4 on my shiny new dell inspiron 6000 - there are a few things
yet to sort out, and one of them is X. Amazing. In winxp it runs at 1280x800,
16bit (I think, or 24? can't remember off-hand, i'd be happy with 8 for the
moment!). And it seems I need the i810 Generic driver from xorg.

You might need
agp_load="YES"
in your /boot/loader.conf . See also
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html
(Section 5.4.3.1).

Regards,

Uli.



At the moment, I'm working with no xorg.conf at all! I get 800x600, not sure
of colour depth. But I really want / need to take advantage of the full
screen resolution. I understand I should set things up to run 915resolution
on boot, to teach the vbios about 1280x800. But I've yet make or find an
xorg.conf that even gives me a display.

Thanks a lot for any help!

Thanks,
Ben
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Re: 1280x800 display, i810, 915, etc etc etc

[Craig Kleski]

On Tuesday 07 June 2005 02:29 pm, you wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm running 5.4 on my shiny new dell inspiron 6000 - there are a few
> things yet to sort out, and one of them is X. Amazing. In winxp it
> runs at 1280x800, 16bit (I think, or 24? can't remember off-hand, i'd
> be happy with 8 for the moment!). And it seems I need the i810
> Generic driver from xorg.
>
> At the moment, I'm working with no xorg.conf at all! I get 800x600,
> not sure of colour depth. But I really want / need to take advantage
> of the full screen resolution. I understand I should set things up to
> run 915resolution on boot, to teach the vbios about 1280x800. But
> I've yet make or find an xorg.conf that even gives me a display.
>
> Thanks a lot for any help!
>
> Thanks,
> Ben

You may want to check /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log to see if any 1280x800 modes 
are recognized.  If not, you may need to use 855patch: 

http://www.chzsoft.com.ar/855patch.html

I use 855patch on my Dell 700m to get 1280x800.   Then you need to add a 
ModeLine to xorg.conf. 

ModeLine "1280x800" 71.0 1280  1328  1360 1440 800  802  808 823

and make the appropriate changes in xorg.conf to use this as the default 
resolution (colordepth 24).  Use the i810 driver.

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