Re: 5.3: want to install XFree86
On Sunday 26 December 2004 23:31, Theodore D. Sternberg wrote: I've had it with Xorg and would like to go back to XFree86. Unfortunately, when I go to /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 and type make, it doesn't do anything; it just gives me this message... === XFree86-4.4.0_1,1 is part of XFree86-4. and exits. XFree86 was giving me everything I needed, back under FreeBSD 5.1. Xorg, in contrast, is one huge hassle. Xorg -config produces an xorg.conf.new file that doesn't work (I have ATI Rage 128). Then, reading some of the traffic on this mailing list I see talk about preloading AGP and ATI from /boot/loaders.conf, and I know I'd be getting in way too deep if I did that. To further confirm my ignorance, I'll ask this: what exactly is Xorg? Is it just a different X server (and associated configuration tools)? Or is it something more broad-based than that? If I succeed in building an XFree86 server, can I just make the appropriate symlink -- /usr/X11R6/bin/X --, install my old XFree86.conf file in /etc/X11, and run with that? Or is it going to be more complicated? Ted Sternberg Fremont, California ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey, Ted. X.Org is/are the guys that originally developed, and now maintain the X window system. The X window system is the base upon which most window managers sit. A window manager is the thing that we call a desktop .. like KDE, fvwm2, gnome, sawfish, and several others that are lesser-known. If you are using FreeBSD 5+ then Rage support is built into the kernel and/or automatically loaded at boot and will be available to you if you install X from ports. The message you are getting seems to imply that X is already installed ... although you just about have to be a mind-reader to know it. The reason I say that is because I get the same message, and I *know* that X is installed over here. Here's what I'd do ... and to be sure, others will say NOT to do this ... but here goes: cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 make deinstall make clean make all install clean login non-root-user startx good luck! lane ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.3: want to install XFree86
On Monday 27 December 2004 05:31, Theodore D. Sternberg wrote: I've had it with Xorg and would like to go back to XFree86. Unfortunately, when I go to /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 and type make, it doesn't do anything; it just gives me this message... === XFree86-4.4.0_1,1 is part of XFree86-4. and exits. XFree86 was giving me everything I needed, back under FreeBSD 5.1. Xorg, in contrast, is one huge hassle. Xorg -config produces an xorg.conf.new file that doesn't work (I have ATI Rage 128). Then, reading some of the traffic on this mailing list I see talk about preloading AGP and ATI from /boot/loaders.conf, and I know I'd be getting in way too deep if I did that. To further confirm my ignorance, I'll ask this: what exactly is Xorg? Is it just a different X server (and associated configuration tools)? Or is it something more broad-based than that? As I understand it there was a difference of opinion about how xfree86 development should be run, which resulted in the xorg splitting-off. Many open source OSs have gone with xorg because of it's license, and because it promises a faster pace of development. It's probably in your interest to make it work, because as the two start to diverge it will likely be xfree86 users that have the most hassle. If I succeed in building an XFree86 server, can I just make the appropriate symlink -- /usr/X11R6/bin/X --, install my old XFree86.conf file in /etc/X11, and run with that? Or is it going to be more complicated? Check back through UPDATING; there were instructions for migrating xfree86 to xorg which might be reversible if your xorg isn't too recent. There are instructions there too for setting the appropriate environmental variables for making the system use a non-default X. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 5.3: want to install XFree86
On Sunday 26 December 2004 09:31 pm, Theodore D. Sternberg wrote: I've had it with Xorg and would like to go back to XFree86. Unfortunately, when I go to /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 and type make, it doesn't do anything; it just gives me this message... === XFree86-4.4.0_1,1 is part of XFree86-4. and exits. XFree86 was giving me everything I needed, back under FreeBSD 5.1. Xorg, in contrast, is one huge hassle. Xorg -config produces an xorg.conf.new file that doesn't work (I have ATI Rage 128). Then, reading some of the traffic on this mailing list I see talk about preloading AGP and ATI from /boot/loaders.conf, and I know I'd be getting in way too deep if I did that. To further confirm my ignorance, I'll ask this: what exactly is Xorg? Is it just a different X server (and associated configuration tools)? Or is it something more broad-based than that? As I understand it, Xorg is the follow on to XFree86. You can read about it at X.org. The new versions will be Xorg. FWIW, I still use XF86Config. I may have had to tweak the video card but that was it. I use xdb to switch between en/es and that works on 5.3 but xorg on 4.x doesn't switch. If I succeed in building an XFree86 server, can I just make the appropriate symlink -- /usr/X11R6/bin/X --, install my old XFree86.conf file in /etc/X11, and run with that? Or is it going to be more complicated? You have to change /etc/make.conf to include X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xfree86-4 You have to remember that any packages you downloade for 5.x will want xorg instead of XFree86. Kent Ted Sternberg Fremont, California ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
