Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!!

2003-03-09 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Saturday 08 March 2003 23:27, Kent Stewart wrote:
> On Saturday 08 March 2003 07:01 am, Bill Moran wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Citeren Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >>scott mcclellan wrote:
> > >>>Was there anything about ISO imaging anywhere that I just missed
> > >>> or slipped over without actually reading? I didn't notice
> > >>> anything on the FreeBSD site or handbook.
> > >>
> > >>Unfortunately, I think this is one of those things that it's just
> > >>_assumed_ that everybody knows.  I've never seen a good
> > >> explanation, anywhere of what an iso is and how it should be
> > >> handled.
> > >
> > > If you mean making your own iso image then have a look at "Making
> > > Customized Bootable FreeBSD CD/Floppies". As to buring it. I use
> > > the same approce as the author of this. I use a Windows computer.
> > >
> > > :o
> >
> > That's my point.  If you want to know how to create your own CDs
> > and build bootable CDs and things like that, there are articles
> > everywhere. However, if you're _very_ new and just want to burn an
> > iso that you've downloaded, there's no basic introduction to what
> > you're doing and how to go about it.
>
> I'm not sure what is missing here. All of the cdburners that I am
> aware of have the ability to burn iso's. I went through one time and
> listed where the capability was found on the Windows based ones that
> I had used. I have standardized on Nero 5.5 and finding how to burn
> an iso image with Nero is one of the more dificult. You almost have
> to read the FAQ on their web page. On the rest of the Windows
> burners, you can almost double click the *.iso file and it will bring
> your CD-ROM burner program up in the burn-image mode.
>
> The man page for burncd in the examples at the bottom tells you that
> the file written to a data CD is an iso image. It even points you to
> mkisofs, which is used to make the iso image.
>
I just saw that the freebsd handbook (www.freebsd.org/handbook) has some 
notes on this under the title: Creating and Using Optical Media (CDs & 
DVDs)


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Alex

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Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!!

2003-03-08 Thread Kent Stewart
On Saturday 08 March 2003 07:01 am, Bill Moran wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Citeren Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>scott mcclellan wrote:
> >>>Was there anything about ISO imaging anywhere that I just missed
> >>> or slipped over without actually reading? I didn't notice
> >>> anything on the FreeBSD site or handbook.
> >>
> >>Unfortunately, I think this is one of those things that it's just
> >>_assumed_ that everybody knows.  I've never seen a good
> >> explanation, anywhere of what an iso is and how it should be
> >> handled.
> >
> > If you mean making your own iso image then have a look at "Making
> > Customized Bootable FreeBSD CD/Floppies". As to buring it. I use
> > the same approce as the author of this. I use a Windows computer.
> > :o
>
> That's my point.  If you want to know how to create your own CDs and
> build bootable CDs and things like that, there are articles
> everywhere. However, if you're _very_ new and just want to burn an
> iso that you've downloaded, there's no basic introduction to what
> you're doing and how to go about it.
>

I'm not sure what is missing here. All of the cdburners that I am aware 
of have the ability to burn iso's. I went through one time and listed 
where the capability was found on the Windows based ones that I had  
used. I have standardized on Nero 5.5 and finding how to burn an iso 
image with Nero is one of the more dificult. You almost have to read 
the FAQ on their web page. On the rest of the Windows burners, you can 
almost double click the *.iso file and it will bring your CD-ROM burner 
program up in the burn-image mode.

The man page for burncd in the examples at the bottom tells you that the 
file written to a data CD is an iso image. It even points you to 
mkisofs, which is used to make the iso image.

> I need to do some writing.

One part that I found to be lite was what an iso image was. It is like 
most of the other extensions on computers. You either recognize them or 
you have problems. So, where would you write something that would 
bootstrap new users to where they understand this new extension. The 
terms ISO9660, Joliet, Rock Ridge, and etc also don't mean much to most 
people. They are also going to see things like ".c", ".o", and etc. but 
we don't tell them what they are for. 

You almost need a FAQ version of a book like "Computer File Extensions 
for Dummies". Some people I know have problems buying one of these 
Dummy books but they are about the only book series I know of that will 
take a newbie to where they can understand the terminology of the 
subject. Then, they can read a more technical book.

Kent
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Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!!

2003-03-08 Thread Bill Moran
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Citeren Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
 
scott mcclellan wrote: 

Was there anything about ISO imaging anywhere that I just missed or 
slipped over without actually reading? I didn't notice anything on the 
FreeBSD site or handbook. 
Unfortunately, I think this is one of those things that it's just 
_assumed_ that everybody knows.  I've never seen a good explanation, 
anywhere of what an iso is and how it should be handled. 
If you mean making your own iso image then have a look at "Making 
Customized Bootable FreeBSD CD/Floppies". As to buring it. I use the 
same approce as the author of this. I use a Windows computer. :o 
That's my point.  If you want to know how to create your own CDs and
build bootable CDs and things like that, there are articles everywhere.
However, if you're _very_ new and just want to burn an iso that you've
downloaded, there's no basic introduction to what you're doing and how
to go about it.
I need to do some writing.

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Potential Technologies
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Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!!

2003-03-08 Thread akruijff
Citeren Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
 
> scott mcclellan wrote: 
> > Was there anything about ISO imaging anywhere that I just missed 
> or 
> > slipped over without actually reading? I didn't notice anything on 
> the 
> > FreeBSD site or handbook. 
>  
> Unfortunately, I think this is one of those things that it's just 
> _assumed_ that everybody knows.  I've never seen a good 
> explanation, 
> anywhere of what an iso is and how it should be handled. 
 
If you mean making your own iso image then have a look at "Making 
Customized Bootable FreeBSD CD/Floppies". As to buring it. I use the 
same approce as the author of this. I use a Windows computer. :o 
 
Alex 

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Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!!

2003-03-07 Thread Bill Moran
scott mcclellan wrote:
Was there anything about ISO imaging anywhere that I just missed or
slipped over without actually reading? I didn't notice anything on the
FreeBSD site or handbook.
Unfortunately, I think this is one of those things that it's just
_assumed_ that everybody knows.  I've never seen a good explanation,
anywhere of what an iso is and how it should be handled.  Hell, some
burning software makes it REALLY hard to be sure that your doing it
right.
The concept of "making it so easy anyone can do it" also make the people
doing it ignorant of what they're actually doing.  I don't like software
designed that way.
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Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!!

2003-03-07 Thread Allen Kenner
Well this is tghe first time iv ever messaged this place, iv been a huge
Free BSD fan for a long time, (well not that long because iv only had a
computer for 3 years but i did learn fast) me personally, i have no problem
with Windows, to me an OS is as good as the person with root :) lol. but
honestly i like Windows, i also Like Linux, Free BSd and open BSd and BeOS,
i mean i have respect for every OS because even though i dont know how to
program i do understand how it works and to build ANY OS would be hard to
me, im not that great at Free BSD in particular but i can use Linux and i do
daily and i can use a command line and i know how to use shells and GUIs, i
bought Free BSD power pack back when 4.0 was a bit new, i still read that
book all the time, i can still say i love it though because i know how the
system goes and i have a huge amount of respect for Free BSD and the team
who makes it happen, i think its awesome (i dont mean to steal this post but
i saw he was talking about his computer life and i thought hey what the hell
i will to) im 20 years old and i go to college and work in a fast food
restaraunt. anyway good job to everyone from the BSD teams if you see this.



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