Re: A strategic question (continued)

2006-01-31 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-01-31 03:41, Jozef Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Many thanks to everyone who answered my previous e-mail about this subject
 on this list or by private e-mail.

 As some of you suggested, I have installed PC-BSD (http://www.pcbsd.com/). I
 am sure a Unix guru would not like to install FreeBSD in this way, as it
 doesn't offer many choices. But it is just wonderful for a Unix newbie like
 me. At the end of the installation, the GUI, the cable Internet connection,
 and even the sound system worked fine. Some configuration still needs to be
 done (printing and German keyboard). But now at least I have a system I can
 use right away to do some usefull work with, and to further explore.

 I will try to configure the printing myself before perhaps eventually asking
 some specific questions about it here.

 I found an interesting explanation about the configuration of the German
 keyboard, so if some other German speaking newbie asks about it:

 http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~eserte/FreeBSD/doc/umlaute/umlaute.html

 Giorgos Keramidas asked me:
  Can you explain *how* you configured your X11 desktop?

 Like explained in the handbook. First I created an xorg.conf.new
 configuration skeleton file with

 # Xorg -configure

 Then I tested this configuration with

 # Xorg -config xorg.conf.new

 The result was a Mode not supported message on the display screen
 until I found out the HorizSync and VertRefresh values to write in the
 Section Monitor which were supported, and which were much narrower
 than the hardware manufacturers specifications.

That's probably a bug in the configuration file generated by Xorg and,
quite possibly, a bug in the Handbook section.  Most modern monitors and
video adapters work without any HorizSync or VertRefresh line in
`xorg.conf'.  This forces the X11 servers to query the hardware for the
supported refresh ranges, and I've found that it tends to be much easier
to get things right this way :)

 The display adapter is an nVidia GeForce4 MX with integrated GPU (which uses
 64 MB of the system's 512 MB physical working memory). The LCD monitor is a
 Proview 780.

I'm using an ATI on the laptop used to type this message.  The file
/var/log/Xorg.0.log lists it as:

ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]

The `xorg.conf' file has commented out entries for HorizSync and
VertRefresh, but this doesn't keep things from working.

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0

# Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC:
#HorizSync31.5 - 79.0
#VertRefresh  50.0 - 70.0
EndSection

You may find it easier to comment out these lines from xorg.conf, start
X11 and then tune the best refresh ranges later, after you get things
working fine :)

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Re: A strategic question (continued)

2006-01-30 Thread Garrett Cooper

On Jan 30, 2006, at 6:41 PM, Jozef Baum wrote:

Many thanks to everyone who answered my previous e-mail about this  
subject

on this list or by private e-mail.

As some of you suggested, I have installed PC-BSD (http:// 
www.pcbsd.com/). I
am sure a Unix guru would not like to install FreeBSD in this way,  
as it
doesn't offer many choices. But it is just wonderful for a Unix  
newbie like
me. At the end of the installation, the GUI, the cable Internet  
connection,
and even the sound system worked fine. Some configuration still  
needs to be
done (printing and German keyboard). But now at least I have a  
system I can

use right away to do some usefull work with, and to further explore.

I will try to configure the printing myself before perhaps  
eventually asking

some specific questions about it here.

I found an interesting explanation about the configuration of the  
German

keyboard, so if some other German speaking newbie asks about it:

http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~eserte/FreeBSD/doc/umlaute/umlaute.html

Giorgos Keramidas asked me:


Can you explain *how* you configured your X11 desktop?


Like explained in the handbook. First I created an xorg.conf.new
configuration skeleton file with

# Xorg -configure

Then I tested this configuration with

# Xorg -config xorg.conf.new

The result was a Mode not supported message on the display screen  
until I

found out the HorizSync and VertRefresh values to write in the Section
Monitor which were supported, and which were much narrower than the
hardware manufacturers specifications.

The display adapter is an nVidia GeForce4 MX with integrated GPU  
(which uses
64 MB of the system's 512 MB physical working memory). The LCD  
monitor is a

Proview 780.


	You may have actually been limited by your video card in this  
respect. Given that it is a GeForce4, the options for resolution and  
scanlines and stuff may have been lower. I know that when I went from  
a GF4 to a GF6 my system's available resolution increased quite a  
bit. Too bad though that my monitor doesn't though... :(.

Take care and hopefully this time around things will be better for you.
-Garrett
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