Re: Archive Server Error

2010-06-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
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On 14/06/2010 18:35:39, Andrew Wright wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, A. Wright wrote:
> 
>> Not a cache issue; clearing/restarting has no effect, and I have
>> seen the issue on several machines/browsers (FBSD/links, Mac/Firefox,
>> Mac/Safari).  I'm wondering about firewall/proxy -- I'll give it
>> a whirl when off-site later today.
> 
> Still nothing when checking from home.
> 
> I'm wondering about network topology -- it is dead when
> viewed from my server (138.73.29.51).
> 
> Traceroute returns this:
> traceroute to wwwdyn.freebsd.org (69.147.83.38), 64 hops max, 52
> byte packets
>  1  138.73.29.254 (138.73.29.254)  0.618 ms  0.555 ms  0.541 ms
>  2  bfg-6506.mta.ca (138.73.101.254)  0.801 ms  0.311 ms  0.323 ms
>  3  198.164.29.73 (198.164.29.73)  0.855 ms  0.792 ms  0.507 ms
>  4  198.164.29.65 (198.164.29.65)  8.464 ms  8.194 ms  8.109 ms
>  5  142.166.176.1 (142.166.176.1)  124.732 ms  124.961 ms  114.841 ms
>  6  xe-1-0-0-200.dr02.fctn.nb.aliant.net (142.166.209.194)  129.638
> ms  117.374 ms  117.979 ms
>  7  so-1-3-0.cr02.stjh.nb.aliant.net (142.166.185.145)  126.063 ms 
> 123.422 ms  130.776 ms
>  8  te-0-2-5-0.cr01.hlfx.ns.aliant.net (142.166.181.137)  126.243
> ms  130.194 ms  123.887 ms
>  9  xe-3-0-0.bx01.asbn.va.aliant.net (207.231.227.6)  144.084 ms 
> 148.291 ms  146.069 ms
> 10  yho1.asbn.va.aliant.net (207.231.227.26)  146.966 ms  143.405
> ms  144.975 ms
> 11  ae-6.pat1.dce.yahoo.com (216.115.102.172)  140.772 ms  146.617
> ms  166.540 ms
> 12  as-0.pat2.che.yahoo.com (216.115.101.145)  166.338 ms  201.429
> ms  172.191 ms
> 13  as-1.pat2.dnx.yahoo.com (216.115.96.55)  206.685 ms  212.076 ms 
> 212.919 ms
> 14  as-0.pat1.pao.yahoo.com (216.115.101.128)  221.059 ms  220.649
> ms  222.264 ms
> 15  ae-1-d140.msr1.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.53)  230.591 ms
> ae-0-d140.msr1.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.49)  235.904 ms
> UNKNOWN-216-115-107-73.yahoo.com (216.115.107.73)  229.977 ms
> 16  * * gi-1-39.bas-b1.sp1.yahoo.com (98.136.16.61)  661.870 ms
> 17  wwwdyn.freebsd.org (69.147.83.38)  235.035 ms  238.288 ms 
> 229.476 ms
> 
> Could there be some bad cacheing on the server?  I'm guessing that
> "wwdyn" indicates some load balancing?

Possibly. I get subtly a different traceroute to yours once the traffic
gets into Yahoo's network.

lucid-nonsense:~:% traceroute lists.freebsd.org
traceroute to wwwdyn.freebsd.org (69.147.83.38), 64 hops max, 52 byte
packets
 1  gate (81.187.76.161)  1.221 ms  1.125 ms  1.048 ms
 2  2.b.gormless.thn.aaisp.net.uk (90.155.53.112)  27.369 ms  27.692 ms
 27.523 ms
 3  a.armless.thn.aaisp.net.uk (90.155.53.6)  28.955 ms  27.807 ms
27.771 ms
 4  lvl3gw.thn.packetexchange.net (212.187.197.193)  28.535 ms  28.301
ms  28.761 ms
 5  ae-34-52.ebr2.London1.Level3.net (4.69.139.97)  28.824 ms  29.236 ms
 28.486 ms
 6  ae-41-41.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.137.66)  97.785 ms
ae-44-44.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.137.78)  97.880 ms  97.654 ms
 7  ae-91-91.csw4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.78)  102.875 ms
ae-71-71.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.70)  98.293 ms
ae-81-81.csw3.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.74)  104.146 ms
 8  ae-94-94.ebr4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.125)  98.448 ms
ae-74-74.ebr4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.117)  110.459 ms
ae-84-84.ebr4.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.134.121)  98.013 ms
 9  ae-2-2.ebr4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.135.185)  170.752 ms  167.141
ms  178.554 ms
10  ae-94-94.csw4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.254)  166.887 ms
ae-64-64.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.242)  166.901 ms  167.271 ms
11  ae-13-69.car3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.5)  168.587 ms  351.785
ms  220.689 ms
12  4.71.112.14 (4.71.112.14)  176.247 ms  176.649 ms  175.371 ms
13  ae-0-d161.msr1.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.59)  167.602 ms
ae-1-d161.msr1.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.63)  168.532 ms
ae-1-d171.msr2.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.87)  168.556 ms
14  gi-1-41.bas-b2.sp1.yahoo.com (209.131.32.33)  169.761 ms
UNKNOWN-98-136-16-47.yahoo.com (98.136.16.47)  168.770 ms
UNKNOWN-98-136-16-57.yahoo.com (98.136.16.57)  168.393 ms
15  wwwdyn.freebsd.org (69.147.83.38)  168.668 ms  168.849 ms  169.531 ms

Of course, this could very well be the reason why I get different
results to you.  I have IPv6 connectivity.

lucid-nonsense:~:% traceroute6 lists.freebsd.org
traceroute6 to wwwdyn.freebsd.org (2001:4f8:fff6::26) from
2001:8b0:151:1::1, 64 hops max, 12 byte packets
 1  b.gormless.thn.aaisp.net.uk  27.407 ms  26.967 ms  26.968 ms
 2  2001:7f8:4::50e8:1  26.974 ms  26.678 ms  27.100 ms
 3  10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.lon1.he.net  27.534 ms  27.328 ms  27.568 ms
 4  10gigabitethernet2-3.core1.ny4.ipv6.he.net  98.253 ms  96.154 ms
95.826 ms
 5  10gigabitethernet2-3.core1.ash1.ipv6.he.net  100.939 ms  101.851 ms
 105.118 ms
 6  10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.atl1.he.net  121.391 ms  122.689 ms
123.839 ms
 7  2001:470:0

Re: Archive Server Error

2010-06-14 Thread Andrew Wright

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, A. Wright wrote:


Not a cache issue; clearing/restarting has no effect, and I have
seen the issue on several machines/browsers (FBSD/links, Mac/Firefox,
Mac/Safari).  I'm wondering about firewall/proxy -- I'll give it
a whirl when off-site later today.


Still nothing when checking from home.

I'm wondering about network topology -- it is dead when
viewed from my server (138.73.29.51).

Traceroute returns this:
traceroute to wwwdyn.freebsd.org (69.147.83.38), 64 hops max, 52 byte 
packets
 1  138.73.29.254 (138.73.29.254)  0.618 ms  0.555 ms  0.541 ms
 2  bfg-6506.mta.ca (138.73.101.254)  0.801 ms  0.311 ms  0.323 ms
 3  198.164.29.73 (198.164.29.73)  0.855 ms  0.792 ms  0.507 ms
 4  198.164.29.65 (198.164.29.65)  8.464 ms  8.194 ms  8.109 ms
 5  142.166.176.1 (142.166.176.1)  124.732 ms  124.961 ms  114.841 ms
 6  xe-1-0-0-200.dr02.fctn.nb.aliant.net (142.166.209.194)  129.638 ms  
117.374 ms  117.979 ms
 7  so-1-3-0.cr02.stjh.nb.aliant.net (142.166.185.145)  126.063 ms  
123.422 ms  130.776 ms
 8  te-0-2-5-0.cr01.hlfx.ns.aliant.net (142.166.181.137)  126.243 ms  
130.194 ms  123.887 ms
 9  xe-3-0-0.bx01.asbn.va.aliant.net (207.231.227.6)  144.084 ms  
148.291 ms  146.069 ms
10  yho1.asbn.va.aliant.net (207.231.227.26)  146.966 ms  143.405 ms  
144.975 ms
11  ae-6.pat1.dce.yahoo.com (216.115.102.172)  140.772 ms  146.617 ms  
166.540 ms
12  as-0.pat2.che.yahoo.com (216.115.101.145)  166.338 ms  201.429 ms  
172.191 ms
13  as-1.pat2.dnx.yahoo.com (216.115.96.55)  206.685 ms  212.076 ms  
212.919 ms
14  as-0.pat1.pao.yahoo.com (216.115.101.128)  221.059 ms  220.649 ms  
222.264 ms
15  ae-1-d140.msr1.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.53)  230.591 ms
ae-0-d140.msr1.sp1.yahoo.com (216.115.107.49)  235.904 ms
UNKNOWN-216-115-107-73.yahoo.com (216.115.107.73)  229.977 ms
16  * * gi-1-39.bas-b1.sp1.yahoo.com (98.136.16.61)  661.870 ms
17  wwwdyn.freebsd.org (69.147.83.38)  235.035 ms  238.288 ms  229.476 
ms

Could there be some bad cacheing on the server?  I'm guessing that
"wwdyn" indicates some load balancing?

There seems to be some strange configuration going on; if the
IP is substituted:
http://69.147.83.38/pipermail/freebsd-questions/
a "document not found" error results referring to a machine
called "realcgi.sky.freebsd.org".

A.

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Re: Archive Server Error

2010-06-14 Thread Carmel
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:46:55 -0300 (ADT)
A. Wright  articulated:

> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> 
> > On 14/06/2010 13:21:40, Carmel wrote:
> >> I am/was attempting to search the archive located at:
> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, I am continually greeted with this error message:
> 
>[ error message deleted ]
> 
> > Works for me.  Try again.  If you still see the problem, it's
> > possible your browser has cached the error page and isn't really
> > going back to the site at all.  Try quitting and restarting your
> > browser.
> 
> Interesting.  Archive search hasn't worked for me for weeks,
> with the same 500 error returned.
> 
> Not a cache issue; clearing/restarting has no effect, and I have
> seen the issue on several machines/browsers (FBSD/links, Mac/Firefox,
> Mac/Safari).  I'm wondering about firewall/proxy -- I'll give it
> a whirl when off-site later today.

I just tried from a different computer using a different web browser
with the same results.

I was wondering about this notation on the page though:

Note:The archive search index was last rebuilt at Thursday, 08 Feb 2007
06:16:51 UTC. Any postings after that will not be found by a search.
Index rebuild is usally done once every 24 hours for this list. You can
use a "View by date" link below to access more recent postings.

Is there any specific reason that the archive has not been re-index in
over three years? I don't remember the date of the post I wasx
referring to, so that could become a rather long process.

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Re: Archive Server Error

2010-06-14 Thread A. Wright

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Matthew Seaman wrote:


On 14/06/2010 13:21:40, Carmel wrote:

I am/was attempting to search the archive located at:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/

Unfortunately, I am continually greeted with this error message:


  [ error message deleted ]


Works for me.  Try again.  If you still see the problem, it's possible
your browser has cached the error page and isn't really going back to
the site at all.  Try quitting and restarting your browser.


Interesting.  Archive search hasn't worked for me for weeks,
with the same 500 error returned.

Not a cache issue; clearing/restarting has no effect, and I have
seen the issue on several machines/browsers (FBSD/links, Mac/Firefox,
Mac/Safari).  I'm wondering about firewall/proxy -- I'll give it
a whirl when off-site later today.

A.

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Re: Archive Server Error

2010-06-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
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On 14/06/2010 13:21:40, Carmel wrote:
> I am/was attempting to search the archive located at:
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/
> 
> Unfortunately, I am continually greeted with this error message:
> 
> 
> 
> Internal Server Error
> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable 
> to complete your request.

Works for me.  Try again.  If you still see the problem, it's possible
your browser has cached the error page and isn't really going back to
the site at all.  Try quitting and restarting your browser.

If you're using a web proxy, then the same caching problem might occur
there.  If the proxy isn't under your control, then probably the best
thing for you to do is leave well alone for several hours, and then try
again.

Cheers,

Matthew

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