Re: CMS on FreeBSD
Scott I. Remick wrote: I'm thinking about setting up a FreeBSD-based CMS/intranet and wanted to know what other people were doing. I have a tiny bit of experience with PHP-Nuke because my webhost uses it. Although I have no real complaints about it, I am not wedded to it. snip Most promising seems Plone, which is based upon Zope. But it seems to be tremendously different from *nuke. The ports version is current and appears to work, but poking around the Plone site I wasn't able to get a feel for whether it truly can provide all the stuff I'm looking for. These are things such as: - Discussion forums - 3rd-party themes (I'm not looking to develop my own themes... I'm looking to get this up fast. Instead I'm looking for an established community of Plone-theme creators who like to create custom themes available for download, so I can pick one that appeals to me) - Polls - a variety of other modules/blocks (strength of the *nukes, but couldn't find a similar following for Plone). snip Although a little late, I thought you might want to consider MovableType (movabletype.org). I originally built my own CMS using a bunch of asp and a MS Access mdb database - unfortunately, that really wedded me to a MS server and MS software - plus, adding articles/posts was an absolute pain. This was also before CSS came en vogue and site upgrades were horribly complicated. I then found *nuke and was happy for a while until I had a lot of problems with security and php hacks enabling others to 0wn my website... oh how I hated that message. I did like the *nuke style, though, because there were so many plugins that I could do pretty much anything that I wanted. Then my philosophy on web design changed and I became a minimalist... *nuke was out. A friend of mine finally convinced me to give MovableType a try about two years ago and I've been hooked since. There are a lot of plugins available - although, I really don't use any, as I simply apply my CSS theme to different things that I wanted to *plug in* to my website. So, I can't say how well some of the things you are looking for are supported. I can say, though, that the code is extremely well written and I have never worried about or had anyone hack the site. I'm sure anything is possible, but it is the most reliable and secure CMS I have run to date - and it is *really* simple to set up. Steve Fettig ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CMS on FreeBSD
Hi Scott, I'm thinking about setting up a FreeBSD-based CMS/intranet and wanted to know what other people were doing. I'm running an intranet site on a Pentium 1, 80 MB RAM, 120 MHz and a 30GB Harddisk. I'm using Mambo 4.5, which can be downloaded at http://www.mamboserver.com or with a lot of templates at http://www.mamboportal.com. It only uses Apache, MySQL ann d PHP4 Jack ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CMS on FreeBSD
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 01:53:04PM -0500, Scott I. Remick wrote: I'm thinking about setting up a FreeBSD-based CMS/intranet and wanted to know what other people were doing. I have a tiny bit of experience with PHP-Nuke because my webhost uses it. Although I have no real complaints about it, I am not wedded to it. PHP-Nuke is in ports and was recently upgraded to 6.9 after stagnating at 6.0 for a long time. This makes me concerned that if I invested in it, and the need for an update came, I might be SOL for a while due to lack of a maintainer. As it is right now, it is marked FORBIDDEN due to a vulnerability with versions below 7.1. Also, there seems to be a lot of hatred towards PHP-Nuke. I don't claim to understand it, but I can accept they might know something I don't. I do know that PHP is rather easy for me to work with, as I've tweaked many pages on my hosted site. I am also not turned away by the fact that PHP-Nuke depends on MySQL as I have used it with Bugzilla and it doesn't scare me. Looking at other options, there comes Postnuke. Seems a pretty-popular close-relation to PHP-Nuke, however the version in ports seems 2+ years old. So there is the maintainership issue again. And a lot of people hate BOTH *Nukes, for perhaps good reasons I don't totally grasp, so there's that too. Diverging a bit, I noticed Drupal. Currently in ports but broken. snip Umm.. I don't know what other people think about this - but I really never run any PHP stuff from ports. It is easier, imo, to just download the tgz and unzip it to the directory you want it in. Since there's no compiling, usually very little setup, it's just _easier_ and gives you more control if you just do it yourself. Of course, the cruddy thing about that is updating. Therefore, the reason why I think the cms' in ports are old is because most people don't port install them - it's just not worth it. Just follow the instructions that come with the PHP app - usually you'll have to create a database in mysql for it to use. The instructions are usually really good with that stuff. As far as which cms to use, I'm currently undecided as well. My boss really likes drupal, and forces me to use it :) Check out opensourcecms.com - they showcase dozens of php cms' and let you try them out. Good Luck - Dan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CMS on FreeBSD
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 14:05:45 -0600, Dan Rue wrote: Umm.. I don't know what other people think about this - but I really never run any PHP stuff from ports. It is easier, imo, to just download the tgz and unzip it to the directory you want it in. Since there's no compiling, usually very little setup, it's just _easier_ and gives you more control if you just do it yourself. Of course, the cruddy thing about that is updating. Therefore, the reason why I think the cms' in ports are old is because most people don't port install them - it's just not worth it. Ahh, I see. That would explain a lot, then. Makes sense. As far as which cms to use, I'm currently undecided as well. My boss really likes drupal, and forces me to use it :) Drupal looks really nice. Do you have any thoughts on Drupal vs. Mambo? Check out opensourcecms.com - they showcase dozens of php cms' and let you try them out. Beat ya to it... I already stumbled across it just a short while ago and am currently playing around. :) Hmmm it occurred to me that one module/component I'd really be interested in is some sort of organized (hierarchy) knowledgebase that is also searchable. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CMS on FreeBSD
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 03:25:17PM -0500, Scott I. Remick wrote: Drupal looks really nice. Do you have any thoughts on Drupal vs. Mambo? I've used both, but neither very much. I can only tell you that my boss went from Mambo to Drupal - I guess he found it easier to hack on. That's the thing - if you can find one you really like, and learn the internals, you can use it for many differnet things. It's so nice to be able to throw up a fully functional website in an evening. Hmmm it occurred to me that one module/component I'd really be interested in is some sort of organized (hierarchy) knowledgebase that is also searchable. This sounds like a wiki.. http://c2.com/cgi/wiki http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/ Enjoy! dan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CMS on FreeBSD
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 01:53:04PM -0500, Scott I. Remick wrote: I'm thinking about setting up a FreeBSD-based CMS/intranet and wanted to know what other people were doing. you should at least read through some of the material on zope. its well maintained in the ports collection -- take a look at the zope cmf and plone material I'm also concerned about Plone using its own webserver. I feel very good using Apache as I've a lot of experience with it, and I like the idea of delegating components to groups with that strength. I also don't know Python, but could try and learn if Plone was worth it. most people run zope/cmf/plone in back of apache with mod_proxy and rewrite.. What are other people doing for CMS on FreeBSD? Just how different is Plone from the *Nukes? Are there fundamental differences I need to understand? Can I do everything I want to with Plone without having to become a Python expert, code my own modules, etc? don't know anything about Nukes but Plone is very good. -- David Bear phone: 480-965-8257 fax:480-965-9189 College of Public Programs/ASU Wilson Hall 232 Tempe, AZ 85287-0803 Beware the IP portfolio, everyone will be suspect of trespassing ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CMS on FreeBSD
At 04:39 PM 3/19/2004, Dan Rue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umm.. I don't know what other people think about this - but I really never run any PHP stuff from ports. It is easier, imo, to just download the tgz and unzip it to the directory you want it in. Yes, exactly. You can download the latest PHP-Nuke sources and have a test installation up very quickly. As far as which cms to use, I'm currently undecided as well. Ditto. After some googling and testing I settled on Geeklog, and it is doing the job for my small-time personal site, but I am not married to it. (geeklog.net) It is probably not robust enough if you need a very flexible, generalized CMS. It's more a weblog/portal with plugins for other stuff like file management. My boss really likes drupal, and forces me to use it :) Check out opensourcecms.com - they showcase dozens of php cms' and let you try them out. If Scott or anyone else draws any conclusions from their own testing, please post! ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
