Re: Fax App Recommendations

2005-11-30 Thread Robert H. Perry

Daniel wrote:

On 11/30/05, Robert H. Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Robert H. Perry wrote:


Robert H. Perry wrote:



Currently running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and a MultiTech Voice/Data/Fax
modem for dialup internet service on a server-type machine.  I also
run another machine with 3 operating systems (FreeBSD 5.4, Suse 9.2,
and Windows XP).

My original objective was to install Hylafax on the server and share
it with the other 3 systems.

I ran into a couple of errors early on and seeked some help from the
mailing list.  Got one response suggesting I reinstall the app from
source.



I was preparing to respond to a reply when Thunderbird sent the original
to never-never-land.  Sorry.  Here's the problem I encountered.

I was running the sendfax command to test my installation and received
an unexpected error message.  I used the command taken from the
sendfax man page as follows:

sendfax -n -d (destination fax#) /etc/passwd
sendfax: no files to send
usage:...

I reran it using the -x debug option and the message indicated:



What version of hylafax was installed?

hylafax-4.2.1_3


Make sure you install gawk.

gawk-3.1.1_1 installed


The native awk binary in FBSD is nawk (not gawk) which caused me some
greif with hylafax scripts.

So, update ports. Remove hylafax. Install gawk. Reinstall hylafax.
Hope you noticed the second note sent last night.  This one was sent 
unfinished.  Also note that I have mgetty-1.1.33 installed.


Bob


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Re: Fax App Recommendations

2005-11-30 Thread Daniel
On 12/1/05, Robert H. Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Daniel wrote:
  On 11/30/05, Robert H. Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Robert H. Perry wrote:
 
 Robert H. Perry wrote:
 
 
 Currently running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and a MultiTech Voice/Data/Fax
 modem for dialup internet service on a server-type machine.  I also
 run another machine with 3 operating systems (FreeBSD 5.4, Suse 9.2,
 and Windows XP).
 
 My original objective was to install Hylafax on the server and share
 it with the other 3 systems.
 
 I ran into a couple of errors early on and seeked some help from the
 mailing list.  Got one response suggesting I reinstall the app from
 source.
 
 
 I was preparing to respond to a reply when Thunderbird sent the original
 to never-never-land.  Sorry.  Here's the problem I encountered.
 
 I was running the sendfax command to test my installation and received
 an unexpected error message.  I used the command taken from the
 sendfax man page as follows:
 
 sendfax -n -d (destination fax#) /etc/passwd
 sendfax: no files to send
 usage:...
 
 I reran it using the -x debug option and the message indicated:
 
 
  What version of hylafax was installed?
 hylafax-4.2.1_3
 
  Make sure you install gawk.
 gawk-3.1.1_1 installed
 
  The native awk binary in FBSD is nawk (not gawk) which caused me some
  greif with hylafax scripts.
 
  So, update ports. Remove hylafax. Install gawk. Reinstall hylafax.
 Hope you noticed the second note sent last night.  This one was sent
 unfinished.  Also note that I have mgetty-1.1.33 installed.

I don't have mgetty installed, but I do have hylafax 4.2.1_1
installed, gawk 3.1.1_1, and some mime ports (mime-support and
metamail) to allow for sending electronic faxes via e-mail to people
in our company.

I issued the exact same sendfax command:
# sendfax -n -d 5551212 /etc/passwd

Of course changing 5551212 for one of my faxes and it sent fine.

When I started this course of action in setting up hylafax I had no
idea about faxes either.
I basically followed the instructions on
http://www.hylafax.org/howto/install.html#ss2.2

I skipped section 2.2.3 because hylafax was installed. I didn't
install mgetty either.

I added the line:
cuaa0   /usr/local/sbin/faxgetty  dialup  on  secure
Into /etc/ttys under serial consoles (location probably don't matter)
and then ran:
init q
to rescan the /etc/ttys file.

You also want to copy /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hylafax.sh.sample to
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/hylafax.sh. This doesn't use rcng so you can just
run /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hylafax.sh start which will/should fire up the
hylafax daemon.

You don't need to worry about the cronjobs (they're there for cleaning
up and can be delt with later).

So at this point, make sure you do init q and run the rc.d/hylafax.sh
start or just reboot.

Provided that you completed 2.2.4 (adding modems and configuring setup
in general) without any dramas at all from the howto you should be
able to run the sendfax command.

Are you also certain your modem is operating correctly? You could run
the bash shell and then type echo atdt089231414141414  /dev/cuaa0 and
the modem should dial whatever number after atdt and you should either
hear it through the modem speaker, see it with the lites on the modem
or the phone should ring (if you put your phone number or mobile
number in).

You should also try using the basic default settings for adding new modems.

If you havn't removed hylafax and reinstalled (making sure that the
deinstall deleted everything) I'd do that now.

To make sure all files it creates are gone you could run:
pkg_info -L hylafax\*  hylafax-files

Then deinstall hylafax

Then: cat hylafax-files and see if any of the files listed still exist.

I hope this helps a bit more.
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Re: Fax App Recommendations

2005-11-30 Thread Robert H. Perry

Daniel wrote:

On 12/1/05, Robert H. Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Daniel wrote:


On 11/30/05, Robert H. Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Robert H. Perry wrote:



Robert H. Perry wrote:




Currently running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and a MultiTech Voice/Data/Fax
modem for dialup internet service on a server-type machine.  I also
run another machine with 3 operating systems (FreeBSD 5.4, Suse 9.2,
and Windows XP).

My original objective was to install Hylafax on the server and share
it with the other 3 systems.

I ran into a couple of errors early on and seeked some help from the
mailing list.  Got one response suggesting I reinstall the app from
source.



I was preparing to respond to a reply when Thunderbird sent the original
to never-never-land.  Sorry.  Here's the problem I encountered.

I was running the sendfax command to test my installation and received
an unexpected error message.  I used the command taken from the
sendfax man page as follows:

sendfax -n -d (destination fax#) /etc/passwd
sendfax: no files to send
usage:...

I reran it using the -x debug option and the message indicated:



What version of hylafax was installed?


hylafax-4.2.1_3


Make sure you install gawk.


gawk-3.1.1_1 installed


The native awk binary in FBSD is nawk (not gawk) which caused me some
greif with hylafax scripts.

So, update ports. Remove hylafax. Install gawk. Reinstall hylafax.


Hope you noticed the second note sent last night.  This one was sent
unfinished.  Also note that I have mgetty-1.1.33 installed.



I don't have mgetty installed, but I do have hylafax 4.2.1_1
installed, gawk 3.1.1_1, and some mime ports (mime-support and
metamail) to allow for sending electronic faxes via e-mail to people
in our company.

I issued the exact same sendfax command:
# sendfax -n -d 5551212 /etc/passwd

Of course changing 5551212 for one of my faxes and it sent fine.

When I started this course of action in setting up hylafax I had no
idea about faxes either.
I basically followed the instructions on
http://www.hylafax.org/howto/install.html#ss2.2

I skipped section 2.2.3 because hylafax was installed. I didn't
install mgetty either.

I added the line:
cuaa0   /usr/local/sbin/faxgetty  dialup  on  secure
Into /etc/ttys under serial consoles (location probably don't matter)
and then ran:
init q
to rescan the /etc/ttys file.

You also want to copy /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hylafax.sh.sample to
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/hylafax.sh. This doesn't use rcng so you can just
run /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hylafax.sh start which will/should fire up the
hylafax daemon.

You don't need to worry about the cronjobs (they're there for cleaning
up and can be delt with later).

So at this point, make sure you do init q and run the rc.d/hylafax.sh
start or just reboot.

Provided that you completed 2.2.4 (adding modems and configuring setup
in general) without any dramas at all from the howto you should be
able to run the sendfax command.

Are you also certain your modem is operating correctly? You could run
the bash shell and then type echo atdt089231414141414  /dev/cuaa0 and
the modem should dial whatever number after atdt and you should either
hear it through the modem speaker, see it with the lites on the modem
or the phone should ring (if you put your phone number or mobile
number in).

You should also try using the basic default settings for adding new modems.

If you havn't removed hylafax and reinstalled (making sure that the
deinstall deleted everything) I'd do that now.

To make sure all files it creates are gone you could run:
pkg_info -L hylafax\*  hylafax-files

Then deinstall hylafax

Then: cat hylafax-files and see if any of the files listed still exist.

I hope this helps a bit more.



Dan,
This will be a tremendous help.  I already see answers to questions I 
hadn't posted yet and suggestions which will help me better understand 
some of the printed material.  Will keep you posted.


Bob Perry
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Re: Fax App Recommendations

2005-11-29 Thread Daniel
Heya,

On 11/30/05, Robert H. Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Currently running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and a MultiTech Voice/Data/Fax
 modem for dialup internet service on a server-type machine.  I also run
 another machine with 3 operating systems (FreeBSD 5.4, Suse 9.2, and
 Windows XP).

 My original objective was to install Hylafax on the server and share it
 with the other 3 systems.

 I ran into a couple of errors early on and seeked some help from the
 mailing list.  Got one response suggesting I reinstall the app from source.

I've setup and installed hylafax without any problems via the ports on
my FreeBSD 5.4 server, what problem did you exactly have?

I wouldn't even think of suggesting some other software to do it's
job, it's bloody good.

Daniel
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Re: Fax App Recommendations

2005-11-29 Thread Robert H. Perry

Robert H. Perry wrote:
Currently running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and a MultiTech Voice/Data/Fax 
modem for dialup internet service on a server-type machine.  I also run 
another machine with 3 operating systems (FreeBSD 5.4, Suse 9.2, and 
Windows XP).


My original objective was to install Hylafax on the server and share it 
with the other 3 systems.


I ran into a couple of errors early on and seeked some help from the 
mailing list.  Got one response suggesting I reinstall the app from source.


I don't have a lot expertise with modems and facsimiles so I'm 
considering starting with something a little less complex.  Can anyone 
recommend a fax app for a newbie?


Thnx,

Bob Perry

I was preparing to respond to a reply when Thunderbird sent the original 
to never-never-land.  Sorry.  Here's the problem I encountered.



I was running the sendfax command to test my installation and received an 
unexpected error message.  I used the command taken from the sendfax man page 
as follows:

sendfax -n -d (destination fax#) /etc/passwd
sendfax: no files to send
usage:... 


I reran it using the -x debug option and the message indicated:

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Re: Fax App Recommendations

2005-11-29 Thread Robert H. Perry

Robert H. Perry wrote:

Robert H. Perry wrote:

Currently running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and a MultiTech Voice/Data/Fax 
modem for dialup internet service on a server-type machine.  I also 
run another machine with 3 operating systems (FreeBSD 5.4, Suse 9.2, 
and Windows XP).


My original objective was to install Hylafax on the server and share 
it with the other 3 systems.


I ran into a couple of errors early on and seeked some help from the 
mailing list.  Got one response suggesting I reinstall the app from 
source.


I don't have a lot expertise with modems and facsimiles so I'm 
considering starting with something a little less complex.  Can anyone 
recommend a fax app for a newbie?


Thnx,

Bob Perry


I was preparing to respond to a reply when Thunderbird sent the original
to never-never-land.  Sorry.  Here's the problem I encountered.

I was running the sendfax command to test my installation and received
an unexpected error message.  I used the command taken from the
sendfax man page as follows:

sendfax -n -d (destination fax#) /etc/passwd
sendfax: no files to send
usage:...

I reran it using the -x debug option and the message indicated:

WARNING: are you sure that this is a G3 fax file? Doesn't seem to be...

My understanding is that sendfax automatically converts ASCII-text 
documents through to the server, so I'm a little confused.  Before 
responding, please also understand that I know very little about modems, 
and facsimiles. Don't assume anything please.


Bob Perry

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Re: Fax App Recommendations

2005-11-29 Thread Daniel
On 11/30/05, Robert H. Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Robert H. Perry wrote:
  Robert H. Perry wrote:
 
  Currently running FreeBSD RELEASE 5.4 and a MultiTech Voice/Data/Fax
  modem for dialup internet service on a server-type machine.  I also
  run another machine with 3 operating systems (FreeBSD 5.4, Suse 9.2,
  and Windows XP).
 
  My original objective was to install Hylafax on the server and share
  it with the other 3 systems.
 
  I ran into a couple of errors early on and seeked some help from the
  mailing list.  Got one response suggesting I reinstall the app from
  source.
 
 I was preparing to respond to a reply when Thunderbird sent the original
 to never-never-land.  Sorry.  Here's the problem I encountered.

 I was running the sendfax command to test my installation and received
 an unexpected error message.  I used the command taken from the
 sendfax man page as follows:

 sendfax -n -d (destination fax#) /etc/passwd
 sendfax: no files to send
 usage:...

 I reran it using the -x debug option and the message indicated:

What version of hylafax was installed?

Make sure you install gawk.

The native awk binary in FBSD is nawk (not gawk) which caused me some
greif with hylafax scripts.

So, update ports. Remove hylafax. Install gawk. Reinstall hylafax.
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