Re: FreeBSD - Linux / Unix ?
B. Unix Depends on what you mean by Unix. There is code in it that derives from the original ATT UNIX. It is this. Although the idea of Unix may have started in Bell Labs, I thought the big lawsuits 10+ years ago and lots of work by early developers settled that no code in the current BSD line can be said to derive from Bell Labs code. Actually, that is not true. The only point the lawsuits settled definitively is that BSD did not infringe on USL's copyrights. In fact it was basically stipulated that some parts of NET/2 / BSDi =were= derived (even copied) from the USL code, but that it didn't matter because the copyrights being claimed had been abandoned or were invalid for one reason or another. Interesting - more complicated parts than are usually mentioned. jerry -Dan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD - Linux / Unix ?
From: Jerry McAllister Sent: March 25, 2004 07:17 Much of what the responder said here is right, but I think there might be just one little point to pick. ... lots excised ... B. Unix Depends on what you mean by Unix. There is code in it that derives from the original ATT UNIX. It is this. Although the idea of Unix may have started in Bell Labs, I thought the big lawsuits 10+ years ago and lots of work by early developers settled that no code in the current BSD line can be said to derive from Bell Labs code. Actually, that is not true. The only point the lawsuits settled definitively is that BSD did not infringe on USL's copyrights. In fact it was basically stipulated that some parts of NET/2 / BSDi =were= derived (even copied) from the USL code, but that it didn't matter because the copyrights being claimed had been abandoned or were invalid for one reason or another. -Dan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD - Linux / Unix ?
Gil Binder wrote: Hey there, I am a FreeBSD user, I have a debate with someone about FreeBSD. And I would like you to answer our little debate, FreeBSD is: A. Linux B. Unix C. Something else ( Tell us what ;P ) Thanks and have a great week / day / whatever ;], Gil. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] see: http://www.schellong.de/div/fbsd_cmp.pdf Richard. __ / __ \ _/ /_/ _ ___ / /_/ / __ `/ __ / _ \/ ___/ __ \/ __ `__ \ / _, _/ /_/ / /_/ / __/ /__/ /_/ / / / / / / /_/ |_|\__,_/\__,_/\___/\___/\/_/ /_/ /_/ www.radecom.nl ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD - Linux / Unix ?
- Original Message - From: Beheer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 8:33 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD - Linux / Unix ? Gil Binder wrote: Hey there, I am a FreeBSD user, I have a debate with someone about FreeBSD. And I would like you to answer our little debate, FreeBSD is: A. Linux It is definitely not A. Linux is a kernel, and FreeBSD has its own kernel. There is absolutely no Linux code in FreeBSD. However, Linux being a kernel only is usually packaged with software from GNU for its userland. Much of FreeBSD's userland is its own code, but it does use some GNU software. FreeBSD is also under the BSD license, which is significantly different than Linux's GPL license, although both are open source. B. Unix Depends on what you mean by Unix. There is code in it that derives from the original ATT UNIX. It is also posix compliant. However, the Open Group which currently owns the UNIX trademark does not consider it Unix. Also, people will often use the term Unix to refer to the proprietary operating systems from the big vendors (SunOS/Solaris, Tru64, HP-UX, IRIX, AIX), which are branched from the original UNIX and has code licensed from it (note SCO who now owns the code). Although you can loosely call FreeBSD Unix, it is more aptly referred to as a unix derivative or unix variant. C. Something else ( Tell us what ;P ) I'd go with this answer. If I had to classify it in any group, I'd classify it as a BSD. 1) Because it's branched directly from BSD 2) It's under the BSD license. 3) It is most similar to other BSD derivates such as OpenBSD and NetBSD, with which it shares a lot of common code, and is significantly more different from any other operating system. Thanks and have a great week / day / whatever ;], Gil. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] see: http://www.schellong.de/div/fbsd_cmp.pdf Richard. __ / __ \ _/ /_/ _ ___ / /_/ / __ `/ __ / _ \/ ___/ __ \/ __ `__ \ / _, _/ /_/ / /_/ / __/ /__/ /_/ / / / / / / /_/ |_|\__,_/\__,_/\___/\___/\/_/ /_/ /_/ www.radecom.nl ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD - Linux / Unix ?
- Original Message - From: Beheer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FreeBSD - Linux / Unix ? Much of what the responder said here is right, but I think there might be just one little point to pick. ... lots excised ... B. Unix Depends on what you mean by Unix. There is code in it that derives from the original ATT UNIX. It is this. Although the idea of Unix may have started in Bell Labs, I thought the big lawsuits 10+ years ago and lots of work by early developers settled that no code in the current BSD line can be said to derive from Bell Labs code. jerry Thanks and have a great week / day / whatever ;], Gil. see: http://www.schellong.de/div/fbsd_cmp.pdf Richard. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD - Linux / Unix ?
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 09:18:49PM +0200, Gil Binder wrote: Hey there, I am a FreeBSD user, I have a debate with someone about FreeBSD. And I would like you to answer our little debate, FreeBSD is: A. Linux FreeBSD is most certainly not Linux. B. Unix That depends on how you define Unix. From a legal point of view FreeBSD does not qualify as a Unix system, but from a practical/historical point of view it probably does. See http://www.opengroup.org to find out what is required to be allowed to call an OS UNIX. C. Something else ( Tell us what ;P ) It is an operating system that is descended from V7 Unix. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD - Linux / Unix ?
Hey there, I am a FreeBSD user, I have a debate with someone about FreeBSD. And I would like you to answer our little debate, FreeBSD is: A. Linux B. Unix C. Something else ( Tell us what ;P ) It's evolved from the original Unix. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/misc/bsd-family-tree?rev=1.79content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD - Linux / Unix ?
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 21:18:49 +0200 Gil wrote: Hey there, I am a FreeBSD user, I have a debate with someone about FreeBSD. And I would like you to answer our little debate, FreeBSD is: A. Linux B. Unix C. Something else ( Tell us what ;P ) C. Wonderful ;-) You may find this version of a unix genealogy tree interesting: http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html Best regards, Randy -- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD - Linux / Unix ?
Gil Binder wrote: Hey there, I am a FreeBSD user, I have a debate with someone about FreeBSD. And I would like you to answer our little debate, FreeBSD is: A. Linux B. Unix C. Something else ( Tell us what ;P ) The Project tells us (www.freebsd.org): FreeBSD is an advanced operating system for x86 compatible, AMD64, Alpha, IA-64, PC-98 and UltraSPARC® architectures. It is derived from BSD, the version of UNIX® developed at the University of California, Berkeley. It is developed and maintained by a large team of individuals http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/index.html. Additional platforms http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/index.html are in various stages of development. Annelise Anderson (book title): FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your Personal Computer Apple's Kernel Programming Glossary: A variant of the BSD operating system. See http://www.freebsd.org for details. I got a kick out of this one at virtualis.com: The FreeBSD operating system is a version of UNIX, and it runs on Intel microprocessors and powers the servers of the Web's largest sites. FreeBSD is the operating system of choice for the Virtualis shared servers, and we have an entire line of FreeBSD (UNIX) dedicated servers as well. See Also: OPERATING SYSTEM I like to contrast that last part with occasionally operating system, e.g. NT, Slowlaris, etc. O'Reilly.net claims there is a kinship: FreeBSD is an open source, freely distributed Unix-like operating system, much like Linux, its counterpart on the Internet. Mac OS X contains a BSD component. And I think this tells a lot in a little space: http://kb.indiana.edu/data/agom.html?cust=550954.08738.131 Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD - Linux / Unix ?
At Wed, 17 Mar 2004 it looks like Randy Pratt composed: On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 21:18:49 +0200 Gil wrote: Hey there, I am a FreeBSD user, I have a debate with someone about FreeBSD. And I would like you to answer our little debate, FreeBSD is: A. Linux B. Unix C. Something else ( Tell us what ;P ) C. Wonderful ;-) You may find this version of a unix genealogy tree interesting: http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html I was given a slightly truncated version of that and I used to keep it on my desk at work for a quick reference. http://billschoolcraft.com/history.jpg It's definitly not as detailed but works for me. -- Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 San Francisco CA 94121 http://billschoolcraft.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
