Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 21:44 -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: Grant Peel wrote: Can I use a windows install cd's R option to do the fdisk /mbr ? I don't know. It's been $years since I've had to use a Windows install CD for such a thing. If it's win32, my experience would have me recommend just booting from a floppy of a win boot disk to restore the MBR. It's just quick that way. If my memory serves right, even a win98 boot disk should work. If memory serves, I believe there is an option to simply go to cli and all the tools are there on the cd ready for you. I could be wrong or outdated though- probably both... :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: F1 Windows F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 -Grant Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install Window$ and give up. I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than the rigmarole M$ go to. Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has changed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:20:50 +1000 Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: F1 Windows F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 -Grant Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install Window$ and give up. I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than the rigmarole M$ go to. Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has changed. This primarily applies to Vista, although it might work with other versions of Windows. It is possible to install FreeBSD or Linux, and possibly other OS's prior to the installation of Microsoft's Windows. Check out these two URLs for further information. http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Linux http://administratosphere.wordpress.com/2008/02/25/installing-grub-on-freebsd/ You will also need the sysutils/grub port installed. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Do not believe in miracles -- rely on them. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:20:50AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: F1 Windows F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 -Grant Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install Window$ and give up. I don't think you read what he wrote carefully. You are right in your statement about MS having to be first and not accomodating any other system. But, for those very reasons, his statement is correct. He has Win already on the disk. He wants to use the _FreeBSD_ system to write the _FreeBSD_ MBR which will happily boot both MS-Win and FreeBSD. I boot MS quite regularly with the FreeBSD MBR. It is the standard recommended way of doing a dual boot. The machine on which I am presently typing is dual boot with MS-XP and FreeBSD and it uses only the FreeBSD MBR with no problem. jerry I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than the rigmarole M$ go to. Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has changed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:08:02AM -0500, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:20:50 +1000 Da Rock rock_on_the_...@comcen.com.au wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: F1 Windows F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 -Grant Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install Window$ and give up. I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than the rigmarole M$ go to. Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has changed. This primarily applies to Vista, although it might work with other versions of Windows. It is possible to install FreeBSD or Linux, and possibly other OS's prior to the installation of Microsoft's Windows. Check out these two URLs for further information. http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Linux http://administratosphere.wordpress.com/2008/02/25/installing-grub-on-freebsd/ You will also need the sysutils/grub port installed. You can make it happen, but it is much more straightforward and less troublesome to leave the MS stuff as the first slice on the disk and put the other things after it reguardless of which MBR you use. jerry -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Do not believe in miracles -- rely on them. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Da Rock wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: F1 Windows F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 -Grant Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install Window$ and give up. That is completely off the wall wrong. You can install FreeBSD first and then Windows and you CAN fix the boot issue yourself with the cd OR you can add it to windows loader. you're just wrting the bootsector. not hard to do. I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than the rigmarole M$ go to. Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has changed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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---BeginMessage--- On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 21:44 -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: Grant Peel wrote: Can I use a windows install cd's R option to do the fdisk /mbr ? I don't know. It's been $years since I've had to use a Windows install CD for such a thing. If it's win32, my experience would have me recommend just booting from a floppy of a win boot disk to restore the MBR. It's just quick that way. If my memory serves right, even a win98 boot disk should work. If memory serves, I believe there is an option to simply go to cli and all the tools are there on the cd ready for you. I could be wrong or outdated though- probably both... :) ---End Message--- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Hi all, Jusat to answer Mike's question, nothing is working to get the MBR and Windows boot back. I ahve been to the windows recovery console many times and ran the Fixboot, Fixmbr commands, being very meticulous about the paramaters etc. I ahve also tried reinstalling the FreeBSD boot manager, and rerunning the Norton GoBack unhook. When I run the recovery console, and do the fixmbr, I get messages about the current MBR not being standard, and that if I install a new one, I may loose the partitions. So far, that is not true. The windows partition is still there, but not being used to boot. Fortuneatley, I can see my windows partition in KNoppix, so I am in the process of getting the data moved to a backup drive. Indeed, I am writting this email through Konquerer! Thank god for live file systems. -Grant On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:30:53 -0500, Michael Copeland wrote Jerry McAllister wrote: On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Can I use a windows install cd's R option to do the fdisk /mbr ? Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any other OSen nor being able to boot them So, use the FreeBSD fdisk which will plant the FreeBSD MBR. jerry has this issue been resolved? what route did you choose to accomplish your task? -Grant - Original Message - From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com wrote: Hi all, I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. In that machine, there is one SATA drive. On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. The problem is, when I boot up I get: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly. F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. Like this: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 _ Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. All suggestions welcome, -Grant www.bootdisk.com Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and write it out to a floppy disk. Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot again. Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:52:07PM -0500, gpeel wrote: Hi all, Jusat to answer Mike's question, nothing is working to get the MBR and Windows boot back. I ahve been to the windows recovery console many times and ran the Fixboot, Fixmbr commands, being very meticulous about the paramaters etc. I ahve also tried reinstalling the FreeBSD boot manager, and rerunning the Norton GoBack unhook. If you read through my post on this, note the scenario I narrated. It is quite possible that every time you run that GoBack thing, it is putting back the wrong MBR from its corrupted stash. jerry When I run the recovery console, and do the fixmbr, I get messages about the current MBR not being standard, and that if I install a new one, I may loose the partitions. So far, that is not true. The windows partition is still there, but not being used to boot. Fortuneatley, I can see my windows partition in KNoppix, so I am in the process of getting the data moved to a backup drive. Indeed, I am writting this email through Konquerer! Thank god for live file systems. -Grant On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:30:53 -0500, Michael Copeland wrote Jerry McAllister wrote: On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Can I use a windows install cd's R option to do the fdisk /mbr ? Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any other OSen nor being able to boot them So, use the FreeBSD fdisk which will plant the FreeBSD MBR. jerry has this issue been resolved? what route did you choose to accomplish your task? -Grant - Original Message - From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com wrote: Hi all, I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. In that machine, there is one SATA drive. On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. The problem is, when I boot up I get: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly. F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. Like this: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 _ Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. All suggestions welcome, -Grant www.bootdisk.com Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and write it out to a floppy disk. Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot again. Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Jerry,
Maybe true. When this all started I used the ISO disk from the Symantec site
to remove GoBack. I assumed in doing so ('unhooking GoBack from the MBR),
that it would replace the original windows one.
It may also be worth noting that this disk -had- a recovery partition on it
once upon a time. I have not idea weather this plays a parts in the latest
woes.
Either way, I need to save the data (as I mentioed \I am doing), dd the disk
to clear everything, and reinstall.
No biggies since I have not lost any data :-)
Thanks for all the help and I ideas though, this has been a learning safari!
-Grant
- Original Message -
From: Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu
To: gpeel gp...@thenetnow.com
Cc: Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu; Michael Copeland
michael.copel...@gmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:52:07PM -0500, gpeel wrote:
Hi all,
Jusat to answer Mike's question, nothing is working to get the MBR and
Windows boot back.
I ahve been to the windows recovery console many times and ran the
Fixboot,
Fixmbr commands, being very meticulous about the paramaters etc.
I ahve also tried reinstalling the FreeBSD boot manager, and rerunning
the
Norton GoBack unhook.
If you read through my post on this, note the scenario I narrated.
It is quite possible that every time you run that GoBack thing, it
is putting back the wrong MBR from its corrupted stash.
jerry
When I run the recovery console, and do the fixmbr, I get messages about
the
current MBR not being standard, and that if I install a new one, I may
loose
the partitions. So far, that is not true. The windows partition is still
there, but not being used to boot.
Fortuneatley, I can see my windows partition in KNoppix, so I am in the
process of getting the data moved to a backup drive. Indeed, I am
writting
this email through Konquerer!
Thank god for live file systems.
-Grant
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:30:53 -0500, Michael Copeland wrote
Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
Can I use a windows install cd's R option to do the fdisk /mbr ?
Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any
other OSen nor being able to boot them So, use the FreeBSD fdisk
which will plant the FreeBSD MBR.
jerry
has this issue been resolved? what route did you choose to
accomplish your task?
-Grant
- Original Message -
From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com
wrote:
Hi all,
I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with
FreeBSD
6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box.
In that machine, there is one SATA drive.
On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided
to
try
putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it.
During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The
install
went flawlessly.
The problem is, when I boot up I get:
F1 ??
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1
F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots
perfectly.
F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller.
F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I
simply
get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens.
Like this:
F1 ??
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1
_
Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?
It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the
disk
before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does
anything
to the booting system.
All suggestions welcome,
-Grant
www.bootdisk.com
Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and
write it out to a floppy disk.
Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type
'fdisk
/mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should
boot
again.
Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD
installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome
that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager.
Kurt
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
gpeel wrote: Hi all, Jusat to answer Mike's question, nothing is working to get the MBR and Windows boot back. [snip] I know it won't help you now, but for the general case: It is a very good idea to save MBRs. Restoring an MBR is a quick and painless way to bring back a former state of affairs. -- Tore ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Hi all, For those that have been following this thread: I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR -Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk, -The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR, -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install), -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive, -As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system, -FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but, -I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation. Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again? THanks all, -Grant - Original Message - From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Grant Peel wrote: So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. unless you specifically need fbsd boot manager Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, For those that have been following this thread: I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR -Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk, -The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR, -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install), -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive, -As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system, -FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but, -I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation. Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again? THanks all, -Grant - Original Message - From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Grant Peel wrote: So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: F1 Windows F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 -Grant - Original Message - From: Michael Copeland michael.copel...@gmail.com To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. unless you specifically need fbsd boot manager Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, For those that have been following this thread: I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR -Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk, -The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR, -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install), -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive, -As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system, -FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but, -I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation. Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again? THanks all, -Grant - Original Message - From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Grant Peel wrote: So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
also, doing it the way i suggested will still give you the option to re-select windows, and then from there right back to freebsd is you accidentally hit the wrong button. creates a nice loop. eg: machine boots, windows shows you Windows XP or FreeBSD you select FreeBSD, you get the menu you want from there F1 FreeBSD F2 Microsoft Windows F5 DiskX Selecting windows will take you back to the windows loader, and then you could select windows or freebsd. Grant Peel wrote: Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: F1 Windows F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 -Grant - Original Message - From: Michael Copeland michael.copel...@gmail.com To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. unless you specifically need fbsd boot manager Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, For those that have been following this thread: I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR -Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk, -The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR, -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install), -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive, -As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system, -FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but, -I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation. Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again? THanks all, -Grant - Original Message - From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Grant Peel wrote: So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
well, there are many easy ways. one is to install an IFS version of UFS, if you're using ufs. that way windows can read the ufs slices and you can grab your file that way. Grant Peel wrote: Mike, In order to do that, I need to be able to get the the /boot/boot1 file that is located in the root of the FreeBSD installation. As of right now, I cant get to it, because I can't boot to FreeBSD (chicken and egg). Any ideas? -Grant In the instructions link you sent: 9.10. How can I use the Windows NT® loader to boot FreeBSD? The general idea is that you copy the first sector of your native root FreeBSD partition into a file in the DOS/Windows NT partition. Assuming you name that file something like c:\bootsect.bsd (inspired by c:\bootsect.dos), you can then edit the c:\boot.ini file to come up with something like this: [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS=Windows NT C:\BOOTSECT.BSD=FreeBSD C:\=DOS If FreeBSD is installed on the same disk as the Windows NT boot partition simply copy /boot/boot1 to C:\BOOTSECT.BSD. However, if FreeBSD is installed on a different disk /boot/boot1 will not work, /boot/boot0 is needed. - Original Message - From: Michael Copeland michael.copel...@gmail.com To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Hello Grant, What I am suggesting is adding a freebsd entry to your windows boot loader. it is quite easy. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER rather than having to deal with using sysinstall, usually its just as simple to add these entries to the windows loader. Grant Peel wrote: Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: F1 Windows F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 -Grant - Original Message - From: Michael Copeland michael.copel...@gmail.com To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. unless you specifically need fbsd boot manager Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, For those that have been following this thread: I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR -Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk, -The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR, -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install), -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive, -As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system, -FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but, -I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation. Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again? THanks all, -Grant - Original Message - From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Grant Peel wrote: So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:23:01PM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com wrote: Hi all, I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. In that machine, there is one SATA drive. On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. The problem is, when I boot up I get: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly. F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. Like this: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 _ Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. All suggestions welcome, -Grant www.bootdisk.com Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and write it out to a floppy disk. Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot again. Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. You should be able to do the same thing with a FreeBSD fixit. Sounds like something got corrupted with the MBR or a boot record somewhere. But, the FreeBSD MBR should boot XP just fine. The machine I am typing on is dual boot with FreeBSD and XP (plus a Dell maintenance slice).All boot with no problem using the FreeBSD MBR. So, using fdisk to reinstall the MBR might help. jerry Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:37:28PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Maybe, but better to boot up the fixit and use fdisk to restore it. jerry -Grant - Original Message - From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca To: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com Cc: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Kurt Buff wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com wrote: On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. www.bootdisk.com Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and write it out to a floppy disk. Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot again. Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. Technically (theoretically) speaking, using a Win32 boot disk to fdisk /mbr, he should be able to re-initialize the FBSD boot loader by going through the steps he did initially. AFAIR, Symantec GoBack, along with many other 'in-disk' restoration programs, overwrite the boot sector with its own code. If the OP can boot back into Windows with the fdisk /mbr, he has likely done both: - broke his GoBack program's ability to recover, and; - made it possible to restore the FBSD boot manager If Windows boots after following Kurt's recommendation of restoring the Windows MBR, back up your Windows system, then try FreeBSD again. You sound courageous, give 'er! Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 09:40:58AM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, For those that have been following this thread: I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR -Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk, -The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR, -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install), -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive, -As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system, -FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but, -I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation. Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again? Boot fixit from CD. Do: fdisk -B or maybe you need: fdisk -iB Then try to reboot. These should only affect sector 0 which is where the MBR goes. What is screwing you up is that Norton GoBack. I haven't used it, but it probably works like previous recovery utilities for Norton. It rewrites the MBR to only boot its own stuff instead of a standard system boot and clobbers anything else there.It is supposed to stash the original MBR somewhere and later put it back. But it doesn't always work. If it is initiated twice in a row, for example, it saves the MBR and writes its own. Then the next time it saves the MBR (which is its own) which clobbers the original that it stashed away and then writes its own MBR in the stash, thus making both copies be its own MBR and the original is trashed. This is just one example of the way it can screw up that I have encountered (- and fixed using the FreeBSD fixit, even though it was an all Windows machine with no FreeBSD on it). There are probably more scenarios that end up with a similarly trashed MBR from GoBack. So, just try getting FreeBSD fixit to fix it. jerry THanks all, -Grant - Original Message - From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Grant Peel wrote: So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 09:53:51AM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Hi Mike, I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here? What I am asking, is, somehting like: Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with: F1 Windows F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 Yup. But, as I said in a previous post, use fixit and fdisk. The F1 choice will probably say either DOS or ?? instead of Windows.DOS if it is a FAT or FAT32 file system, ?? if it is an NTSF file system. jerry -Grant - Original Message - From: Michael Copeland michael.copel...@gmail.com To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. unless you specifically need fbsd boot manager Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, For those that have been following this thread: I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR -Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk, -The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR, -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install), -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive, -As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system, -FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but, -I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation. Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again? THanks all, -Grant - Original Message - From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Grant Peel wrote: So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Can I use a windows install cd's R option to do the fdisk /mbr ? Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any other OSen nor being able to boot them So, use the FreeBSD fdisk which will plant the FreeBSD MBR. jerry -Grant - Original Message - From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com wrote: Hi all, I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. In that machine, there is one SATA drive. On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. The problem is, when I boot up I get: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly. F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. Like this: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 _ Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. All suggestions welcome, -Grant www.bootdisk.com Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and write it out to a floppy disk. Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot again. Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
From the point the message below, I would set up freebsd to give me a graphical gui so I can use gparted to unflag the bsd partition as boot and flag the windows as boot. Before restarting, I would copy /boot/boot1 to somewhere accessible by windows named something like freebsd.boot. Then I'd set up the NT boot loader: right click on my computer... properties... advance tab... startup and recovery settings... click edit and add line c:\freebsd.boot=FreeBSD --- filename of what /boot/boot1 was copied to. This should have gotten to dual booting windows and freebsd, but using the nt boot loader. Original Message Subject:FreeBSD Boot Manager Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 20:17:15 -0500 From: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Hi all, I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. In that machine, there is one SATA drive. On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. The problem is, when I boot up I get: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly. F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. Like this: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 _ Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. All suggestions welcome, -Grant ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Jerry McAllister wrote: On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote: Can I use a windows install cd's R option to do the fdisk /mbr ? Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any other OSen nor being able to boot them So, use the FreeBSD fdisk which will plant the FreeBSD MBR. jerry has this issue been resolved? what route did you choose to accomplish your task? -Grant - Original Message - From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com wrote: Hi all, I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. In that machine, there is one SATA drive. On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. The problem is, when I boot up I get: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly. F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. Like this: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 _ Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. All suggestions welcome, -Grant www.bootdisk.com Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and write it out to a floppy disk. Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot again. Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com wrote: Hi all, I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. In that machine, there is one SATA drive. On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. The problem is, when I boot up I get: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly. F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. Like this: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 _ Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. All suggestions welcome, -Grant www.bootdisk.com Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and write it out to a floppy disk. Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot again. Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Kurt Buff wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com wrote: On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. www.bootdisk.com Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and write it out to a floppy disk. Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot again. Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. Technically (theoretically) speaking, using a Win32 boot disk to fdisk /mbr, he should be able to re-initialize the FBSD boot loader by going through the steps he did initially. AFAIR, Symantec GoBack, along with many other 'in-disk' restoration programs, overwrite the boot sector with its own code. If the OP can boot back into Windows with the fdisk /mbr, he has likely done both: - broke his GoBack program's ability to recover, and; - made it possible to restore the FBSD boot manager If Windows boots after following Kurt's recommendation of restoring the Windows MBR, back up your Windows system, then try FreeBSD again. You sound courageous, give 'er! Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Can I use a windows install cd's R option to do the fdisk /mbr ? -Grant - Original Message - From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com To: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com wrote: Hi all, I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box. In that machine, there is one SATA drive. On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. The problem is, when I boot up I get: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly. F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller. F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens. Like this: F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD F5 Disk1 _ Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. All suggestions welcome, -Grant www.bootdisk.com Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and write it out to a floppy disk. Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot again. Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. Kurt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? -Grant - Original Message - From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca To: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com Cc: Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:33 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager Kurt Buff wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel gp...@thenetnow.com wrote: On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went flawlessly. Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again? It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting system. www.bootdisk.com Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and write it out to a floppy disk. Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot again. Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager. Technically (theoretically) speaking, using a Win32 boot disk to fdisk /mbr, he should be able to re-initialize the FBSD boot loader by going through the steps he did initially. AFAIR, Symantec GoBack, along with many other 'in-disk' restoration programs, overwrite the boot sector with its own code. If the OP can boot back into Windows with the fdisk /mbr, he has likely done both: - broke his GoBack program's ability to recover, and; - made it possible to restore the FBSD boot manager If Windows boots after following Kurt's recommendation of restoring the Windows MBR, back up your Windows system, then try FreeBSD again. You sound courageous, give 'er! Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Grant Peel wrote: So then, IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
Grant Peel wrote: Can I use a windows install cd's R option to do the fdisk /mbr ? I don't know. It's been $years since I've had to use a Windows install CD for such a thing. If it's win32, my experience would have me recommend just booting from a floppy of a win boot disk to restore the MBR. It's just quick that way. If my memory serves right, even a win98 boot disk should work. Why load up all of the unneeded Windows device drivers and other stuff, if you can just 'fix' it? IIRC, just to get to the `Recovery Console' (if you please) takes many, many minutes. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Boot manager
On July 18, 2005 07:26 pm, Jerry Tarwid wrote: I have installed FreeBSD on a box with Windows XP I installed the FreeBSD Boot manager. My question is how do I get rid of the boot manager??? I want to uninstall FreeBSD uninstall the boot manager so my computer will just boot windows. I have 2 SATA hard drives, drive 1 has XP on it drive 2 has XP 64 FreeBSD. I'm using NTFS on both Windows drives. When I installed FreeBSD I installed the boot manager was able to boot into all 3 os's. I uninstalled FreeBSD booted to recovery console did fixboot fixmbr when I tried to boot up I get boot failure like the FreeBSD boot manager left something in the mbr that fixmbr can't overwrite??? I re-installed FreeBSD with the boot manager am able to boot to all 3 os's once again. Can anyone help me??? Thanks, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try from the command console (in XP or bootable disk): fdisk /mbr -- FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #4: Sat Jul 16 11:11:37 EDT 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CLK01A PGP? : http://66.130.198.54:8081/security/nb_root.asc pgpbnWhcnsPNQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
