Re: FreeBSD as a Business Server

2009-04-04 Thread Frederique Rijsdijk

Seur Bors wrote:


As well, if anyone has any web-links to recommended reading, I would greatly
appreciate them.



Samba3 performs excellend nowadays. You should have no trouble at all 
serving 20 workers. In my setup (7.1-release/amd64/dual x2 3800 amd 
cpu/gigabit) smb generates only 3-5% cpu load when reading at 50MB/sec.


I would also recommend running swat (zee /etc/inetd.conf), it can really 
help creating a nice and tailored smb.conf file for you via a webinterface.


I believe that samba3 can even give you Active Directory features and 
Roaming Profiles, but I haven't looked into that. Samba as fileserver is 
enough for me.



-- Frederique

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Re: FreeBSD as a Business Server

2009-04-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar


Samba3 performs excellend nowadays. You should have no trouble at all serving 
20 workers. In my setup (7.1-release/amd64/dual x2 3800 amd cpu/gigabit) smb 
generates only 3-5% cpu load when reading at 50MB/sec.



below 10% CPU when reading 8MB/s through fast ethernet link on 
PIII/500




I would also recommend running swat (zee /etc/inetd.conf), it can really help 
creating a nice and tailored smb.conf file for you via a webinterface.


i would rather recommend

man smb.conf

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Re: FreeBSD as a Business Server

2009-04-03 Thread Kurt Buff
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:42, Seur Bors seurb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings,

 I am recommending a FreeBSD solution to replace an old business file
 server.  The old server is running Windows 2000 Professional, and the
 company has grown from the 5 employee setting to now two floors and
 approximately 15 - 20 people.  They were starting to get connection errors
 to the Win2K machine, as I believe, without the Server version of the
 software, file sharing and maps are severely limited.

 Anyways, my question is thus:  In setting up a FreeBSD machine and utilizing
 Samba to support standard file sharing, is there any caveats or issues
 that anyone perceives?  I've done multiple FreeBSD installations, and
 utilize the Samba package to provide file sharing support in other small
 businesses, but have not had to consider 20 connections at once.  The
 network connection is just a simple router to switch, all gigabit, and the
 system I'm recommending to use as a server also has dual gigabit network
 ports.

 As well, if anyone has any web-links to recommended reading, I would greatly
 appreciate them.

Replacing Win2k (especially the Pro version) with FreeBSD on the same
hardware will give you a boost right there. If you have newer or more
capable hardware as well, you should be well ahead of the game.

http://www.samba.org is your best bet for reading. Pick your country,
then on the left side of the main page is a section called 'learn
samba' - the 'Official HOWTO' and the 'By Example' links should
provide all you need.

Kurt
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Re: FreeBSD as a Business Server

2009-04-03 Thread Adam Vandemore

Seur Bors wrote:

Greetings,

I am recommending a FreeBSD solution to replace an old business file
server.  The old server is running Windows 2000 Professional, and the
company has grown from the 5 employee setting to now two floors and
approximately 15 - 20 people.  They were starting to get connection errors
to the Win2K machine, as I believe, without the Server version of the
software, file sharing and maps are severely limited.

Anyways, my question is thus:  In setting up a FreeBSD machine and utilizing
Samba to support standard file sharing, is there any caveats or issues
that anyone perceives?  I've done multiple FreeBSD installations, and
utilize the Samba package to provide file sharing support in other small
businesses, but have not had to consider 20 connections at once.  The
network connection is just a simple router to switch, all gigabit, and the
system I'm recommending to use as a server also has dual gigabit network
ports.

As well, if anyone has any web-links to recommended reading, I would greatly
appreciate them.

Regards,

Seur Bors
Legate Commander
Knights Of The Old Code
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Well there's a lot of info that would be needed to a well reasoned Yes, 
you can, but the short version is it shouldn't be an issue under normal 
office-like usage.  Going from 5 to 20 connections in such a scenario is 
negligible.  Samba system-agnostic tutorials are good sources of info, 
but best advice is probably to use info provided by their official 
documentation and mailing list.


Also, I have fbsd systems running samba with 20+ connections under what 
I consider normal office environment with absolutely no issues except I 
can't figure out how to get XP to save persistent login password.


--
Adam Vandemore
Systems Administrator
IMED Mobility
(605) 498-1610

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Re: FreeBSD as a Business Server

2009-04-03 Thread Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:40:28 +0300, Adam Vandemore amvandem...@gmail.com  
wrote:



Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote:


Also, I have fbsd systems running samba with 20+ connections under  
what I consider normal office environment with absolutely no issues  
except I can't figure out how to get XP to save persistent login  
password.





You mean it asks you for a password each and every time you access a  
network share?


control panel - user accounts - your user - manage network  
passwords


if list is empty just add an ip or dns with whatever usr/pass you  
desire.


Nice, I've only been looking for that for about 3 years(obviously not a  
real high priority).


Thanks for the tip.




:)). No worries mate, I've also searched for it for like 3 days :P (around  
the clock).

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Re: FreeBSD as a Business Server

2009-04-03 Thread Mikel King


On Apr 3, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Seur Bors wrote:


Greetings,

I am recommending a FreeBSD solution to replace an old business file
server.  The old server is running Windows 2000 Professional, and the
company has grown from the 5 employee setting to now two floors and
approximately 15 - 20 people.  They were starting to get connection  
errors

to the Win2K machine, as I believe, without the Server version of the
software, file sharing and maps are severely limited.

Anyways, my question is thus:  In setting up a FreeBSD machine and  
utilizing
Samba to support standard file sharing, is there any caveats or  
issues

that anyone perceives?  I've done multiple FreeBSD installations, and
utilize the Samba package to provide file sharing support in other  
small

businesses, but have not had to consider 20 connections at once.  The
network connection is just a simple router to switch, all gigabit,  
and the
system I'm recommending to use as a server also has dual gigabit  
network

ports.

As well, if anyone has any web-links to recommended reading, I would  
greatly

appreciate them.

Regards,

Seur Bors
Legate Commander
Knights Of The Old Code


The latest samba port if very robust. You should find this trivial to  
complete. I encourage you to go with new hardware if possible.


Cheers,
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Re: FreeBSD as a Business Server

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Lednev

Seur Bors пишет:

As well, if anyone has any web-links to recommended reading, I would greatly
appreciate them.


You can try FreeNAS. It has standard file sharing with samba managed 
through web-interface and it also has many more nice features.


Oh yeah, and it's FreeBSD. :)
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Re: FreeBSD as a Business Server

2009-04-03 Thread Tim Judd
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Michael Lednev
rea...@reaper.yaroslavl.ruwrote:

 Seur Bors пишет:

 As well, if anyone has any web-links to recommended reading, I would
 greatly
 appreciate them.


 You can try FreeNAS. It has standard file sharing with samba managed
 through web-interface and it also has many more nice features.

 Oh yeah, and it's FreeBSD. :)



Good points;

And a previous employer was running samba on a multi-site VPN school network
with 600 employees..  with a pretty high load.

Biggest thing I found when I started to look into it is the fact that each
client connection to the server yielded yet another PID to have the CPU work
under.  So a central server with 600 employees (potentially) hitting it at
once would bring the system load up very fast.  I saw system loads of
200-300 by use of nagios.

So it would be a wonderful solution; it may peg the system load higher than
one would initially expect, depending on what the fileserver actually serves
(CAD files, video rendering, Access MDB files, etc) as a potential
bottleneck.

I'd pick 10k RPM drives...if you're using more complex files like the ones
mentioned above.  A fast spindle speed will send the file down the wire and
releive system load (as it is logically going through my head).  I've seen
10k SATA drives, but the cooling is important.

FreeNAS might be a good choice, because it's a stripped down version.  But
I'd be concerned of system load higher than anything else for the current
situation, and expansion needs later.

Enjoy your weekends!
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Re: FreeBSD as a Business Server

2009-04-03 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Samba to support standard file sharing, is there any caveats or issues
that anyone perceives?  I've done multiple FreeBSD installations, and


if you use windoze XP or newer and some multiuser programs like accounting 
etc. you will have to use


veto oplock files


man smb.conf for details
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Re: FreeBSD as a Business Server

2009-04-03 Thread Wojciech Puchar


The latest samba port if very robust. You should find this trivial to 
complete. I encourage you to go with new hardware if possible.


i use Pentium III 500Mhz, 384 MB ram as file serwer (samba) for 12 
clients, and mail serwer, VoIP PBX and few less important things.


works quick without problems.


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