Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-21 Thread Julian Stacey
 I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
 like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
 of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
 in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
 point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?
 
 Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you
 want.  Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so
 please don't reply only to the list.
 
 Greg
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Hi Greg cc lists,
Friends run a very flexible BSD based provider company in Munich.
http://bsn.de  bsn.com I have servers there.  It wouldn't matter to
them you weren't in Germany.  They speak English  German.  Could
offer FreeBSD on i686 or so, or sparc-something (maybe OpenBSD for
sparc, not sure).  They'd likely prefer to offer complete box rental,
not a jail.

Greg, call Norbert Poellmann cc'd +49 89 692 8120 to discuss possibilities.
Norbert, Greg is author of a FreeBSD book,  visited Gary  I etc here once.

Index of providers here ( BSN on list)
http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html

Julian
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Re: JohnCompanies and RootBSD (was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?)

2008-06-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar

My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month.


This too is my only gripe about JohnCompanies. For $29 a month, I only
get a VPS with 2GB of space -- and they don't allow you to add more
diskpace unless you upgrade to a higher ($49/month) plan.


while i live in Poland, where (in theory) internet services are more 
expensive than US and many west countries (we are told so at least), it 
looks like very expensive.


29$/month=348$/year for what i understand - Xen based servers with a bit 
of RAM allocated and 2GB disk space.


it's just funny in context of todays cheap 500-1000GB disks.

While i don't do this widely (too little money, too much work to 
advertise etc.) i have 20 clients on my servers just having their 
FreeBSD jail for 100$/month. There is 20GB soft limit - where soft means 
that you generally can keep more, but if i will have space problems i will 
ask to free some space.



The important question is traffic generated, not disk space, as this is 
what's expensive.


I just can't understand the basis of their offers.
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Re: How do they do their VPS product? [was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?]

2008-06-20 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis
On Thursday 19 June 2008 19:29:35 George Hartzell wrote:
 Is/was there some proprietary virtualization technology in the 4.x
 days?

Not a proprietary one:
http://www.tel.fer.hr/zec/BSD/vimage-old/

http://imunes.tel.fer.hr/virtnet/eurobsdcon07_tutorial.pdf
The presentation pdf states:
Anecdotal evidence: FreeBSD 4.11 based version in
  production use by some US ISPs

 Is it still alive and kicking somewhere? 

Hopefully, it will be integrated to HEAD during
summer. You can follow the discussions here: 
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-virtualization

 Anyone have any insights into how these VPS products were built?

Maybe it was that, maybe not...
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-19 Thread Bob Martin
M5 hosting, http://www.m5hosting.com. Those folks are great.
You can find more at http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
 like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
 of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
 in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
 point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?

 Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you
 want.  Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so
 please don't reply only to the list.

 Greg
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-19 Thread Steve Lalonde


On 19 Jun 2008, at 01:31, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:


I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?

Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you
want.  Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so
please don't reply only to the list.

Greg
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Hi

We Entanet host on FreeBSD as the default and its been that way since  
we started back in 1996


We are in the UK

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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-19 Thread Charles Trevor




+1 for JC.  The tech support and availability is unparalleled.  Satisfied 
customer for over three years.




+2 for JohnCompanies. Excellent support and good prices for VPS. I 
intend to have several more VPS with them over the next few months.


HTH

Charlie
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-19 Thread Patrick C
I can, as usual, highly recommend M5 Hosting. Mike (the owner) is VERY
helpful and he is very knowledgeable in *BSD - a lot of hosts will
install it, but few know how to use it. His hardware is good and he
uses AMCC (3Ware) cards for RAID. The network rocks.

I can also say I have had decent luck with ThePlanet, but I get better
bandwidth with M5 and I know if I have to call someone, he knows his
stuff.

-Patrick

2008/6/18 Sahil Tandon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
 experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
 was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.

 +1 for JC.  The tech support and availability is unparalleled.  Satisfied
 customer for over three years.

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How do they do their VPS product? [was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?]

2008-06-19 Thread George Hartzell
Sahil Tandon writes:
  Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
   experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
   was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.
  
  +1 for JC.  The tech support and availability is unparalleled.  Satisfied 
  customer for over three years.

Seeing JC advertise a FreeBSD VPS product reminded me of an itch I've
never been able to scratch.

I know about jails at the simple end, and I know about VMware at the
complicated end, but I've never been able to figure out what technology
underlies the VPS offerings.

I help out a friend on a Verio VPS that reports itself as FreeBSD 4.7
w/ a kernel config file named VKERN.  There's some concept of a
virtual root, a command named 'virtual' works a bit like sudo does for
credentials, and there's otherwise an odd mix of it's all my machine
and it's a shared server.

Is/was there some proprietary virtualization technology in the 4.x
days?  Is it still alive and kicking somewhere?

Anyone have any insights into how these VPS products were built?

Thanks,

g.
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Re: How do they do their VPS product? [was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?]

2008-06-19 Thread OutBackDingo
the libvirt stuff might be a clue, a while back I designed a virtual
system using libvirt and some ported linux code, which basiclaly acted
as an enhanced chroot for apache, ftp, mail, pop3, imap. also NTT has a
derivitive version of FreeBSD with hints at virtualization, im waiting
for our Verio to be setup now, so once it is ill peruse it a bit

On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 09:29 -0700, George Hartzell wrote:
 Sahil Tandon writes:
   Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.
   
   +1 for JC.  The tech support and availability is unparalleled.  Satisfied 
   customer for over three years.
 
 Seeing JC advertise a FreeBSD VPS product reminded me of an itch I've
 never been able to scratch.
 
 I know about jails at the simple end, and I know about VMware at the
 complicated end, but I've never been able to figure out what technology
 underlies the VPS offerings.
 
 I help out a friend on a Verio VPS that reports itself as FreeBSD 4.7
 w/ a kernel config file named VKERN.  There's some concept of a
 virtual root, a command named 'virtual' works a bit like sudo does for
 credentials, and there's otherwise an odd mix of it's all my machine
 and it's a shared server.
 
 Is/was there some proprietary virtualization technology in the 4.x
 days?  Is it still alive and kicking somewhere?
 
 Anyone have any insights into how these VPS products were built?
 
 Thanks,
 
 g.
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JohnCompanies and RootBSD (was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?)

2008-06-19 Thread thomas
* Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-06-18 22:37:13+]:
 Is anyone here using RootBSD?

I am using both RootBSD and JohnCompanies.

 I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
 experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
 was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.

Agreed. JC has been fine so far, and I asked them to include me in their
FreeBSD 7 beta testing when it opens up. I don't think they have a
schedule posted for when that will start.

I started out at RootBSD on 6.2, and when FreeBSD 7 was first offered by
them (about a month ago), they were nice enough to setup a 7.0 VPS for
me, and give me a liberal amount of time for me to move my data over
from my 6.2 VPS.

 My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month.

This too is my only gripe about JohnCompanies. For $29 a month, I only
get a VPS with 2GB of space -- and they don't allow you to add more
diskpace unless you upgrade to a higher ($49/month) plan.

Contrast that with RootBSD, where I pay $19 a month and I get 10GB of
space.

On the JC server, one can easily fill up that 2GB by building various
ports (I did it by running cd /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick; make
install). The RootBSD box comes with 10GB of space which is more than
enough to build almost any port.

I am sticking with both for now, only because JC reliability/uptime is
purported to be excellent. Granted, I've not had any hardware or
connectivity issues with either provider yet, so I've not yet
experienced any serious problems firsthand.



I should also add that they both have excellent customer service and
response times, I've been pleasantly surprised with how good the support
from both places are.

hth,
Thomas
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Re: How do they do their VPS product? [was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?]

2008-06-19 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:29 PM, George Hartzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sahil Tandon writes:
   Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.
  
   +1 for JC.  The tech support and availability is unparalleled.  Satisfied
   customer for over three years.

 Seeing JC advertise a FreeBSD VPS product reminded me of an itch I've
 never been able to scratch.

 I know about jails at the simple end, and I know about VMware at the
 complicated end, but I've never been able to figure out what technology
 underlies the VPS offerings.


I'm not sure about FreeBSD 4.x, but with the more recent versions, the
solutions I've seen were using jails, Xen, or VMWare. I tried running
FreeBSD using Parallels a while back and didn't get very far.

JC is using Jails. An easy way to tell is if you run 'ifconfig' and
don't see the loopback address (127.0.0.1). This is a restriction of
the jails system. Another hint is if you run 'mount' and see that the
device mounted as / doesn't exist in /dev. The main disadvantage of
jails is that you cannot mess with the kernel, but otherwise I think
it's actually a better solution, in my opinion. Less resources are
wasted with jails than with a full VM. A Xen or VMWare server will
behave exactly the same as a physical machine.

- Max
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Re: JohnCompanies and RootBSD (was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?)

2008-06-19 Thread OutBackDingo
It might be nice if the RootBSD people answered their email inquiries, i
know they have lost customers, me for one for not answering a simple
email

On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 13:35 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-06-18 22:37:13+]:
  Is anyone here using RootBSD?
 
 I am using both RootBSD and JohnCompanies.
 
  I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
  experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
  was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.
 
 Agreed. JC has been fine so far, and I asked them to include me in their
 FreeBSD 7 beta testing when it opens up. I don't think they have a
 schedule posted for when that will start.
 
 I started out at RootBSD on 6.2, and when FreeBSD 7 was first offered by
 them (about a month ago), they were nice enough to setup a 7.0 VPS for
 me, and give me a liberal amount of time for me to move my data over
 from my 6.2 VPS.
 
  My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month.
 
 This too is my only gripe about JohnCompanies. For $29 a month, I only
 get a VPS with 2GB of space -- and they don't allow you to add more
 diskpace unless you upgrade to a higher ($49/month) plan.
 
 Contrast that with RootBSD, where I pay $19 a month and I get 10GB of
 space.
 
 On the JC server, one can easily fill up that 2GB by building various
 ports (I did it by running cd /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick; make
 install). The RootBSD box comes with 10GB of space which is more than
 enough to build almost any port.
 
 I am sticking with both for now, only because JC reliability/uptime is
 purported to be excellent. Granted, I've not had any hardware or
 connectivity issues with either provider yet, so I've not yet
 experienced any serious problems firsthand.
 
 
 
 I should also add that they both have excellent customer service and
 response times, I've been pleasantly surprised with how good the support
 from both places are.
 
 hth,
 Thomas
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-19 Thread Garance A Drosihn

Seeing the question:

  Is anyone here using RootBSD?



At 10:55 AM +0700 6/19/08, OutBackDingo wrote:

I was going to go with them for their XEN based hosting, but i sent
them an email, asking a couple questions, they never replied, so
went with Verio instead


I notice the rootbsd guys did a major web-site upgrade at the end
of May.  They also have a recent news-item saying:

   Friday, June 13th, 2008

   - Unfortunately we had a programming problem on part of our
 website.  Messages sent through the 'contact' form have not
 been received.  This is now fixed.
   - If you have sent us a message and not received a response,
 please contact us again.  We apologize for the inconvenience
 and promise we weren't just trying to ignore you.

Obviously this is too late to help OutBackDingo, but if someone else
is waiting for email from them, you might want to try to contact them
again.

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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-19 Thread Garance A Drosihn

At 10:37 PM -0400 6/18/08, Maxim Khitrov wrote:

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:27 PM, cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:31 +1000
 Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
 like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
 of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
 in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
 point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?


 Here's a list of FreeBSD-based hosters:
  http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html



Is anyone here using RootBSD?


I recently signed up for a Xen VPS setup at RootBSD.  It seems to be
working fine, at least for what I want out of it.  I'm using it as a
hot-spare, off-site backup for a service that I run, so what I'm
doing is probably much less demanding than what most people would
want from it.  But so far I've been able to set things up the way I
want, and it's worked fine.  My biggest problem so far is that I
haven't had enough spare time to work on it!

I have no idea if they would take customers from outside the US,
but they have been pretty responsive to questions I have sent to
them via email.

I see they've updated their site since I signed up:
  http://www.rootbsd.net/


I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for
it was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.


My Xen VPS is setup with FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE.  When I signed up,
they were just starting to try Xen-based setups instead of jails.
It looks like they've officially rolled that out as a service to
everyone.


My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month. For the
same price at RootBSD you could get almost eight times as much. The
question is how reliable are they? I can't find any information on
their site about where the data center is or the exact system
specifications.


Machines are located in two different datacenters in Raleigh, NC (or
at least, that's what they told me!).  In my case, I just wanted a
machine located far enough away from Troy, NY that any problem which
took out my office machine would not take out my off-site machine.
North Carolina sounded far enough away to me!

At the moment, my machine has been up for 35 days, and at that time
the reason it went down was because I rebooted it after making some
changes.  I've had the system for maybe two months, and haven't had
any problems with it.  Remember though, I haven't been pushing it
all that much.  Basically do automatic backups to it at night, and
then may ssh into it to test a few things a week.

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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-18 Thread Ryan Coleman
Skiltech.com is my host, they do jailed for a good price -- depends on
traffic and space requirements -- and do colocation. We're paying $400/mo
for a machine we have full system access to, plus 24/7 tech for free and
nightly backups for up to 7 days for access, DB for 30.

They run fBSD 6.3 right now, I believe. Good company, small - owned by one
person - and very, very reliable.

--
Ryan


 I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
 like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
 of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
 in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
 point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?

 Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you
 want.  Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so
 please don't reply only to the list.

 Greg
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-18 Thread Schiz0
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
 like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
 of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
 in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
 point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?

 Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you
 want.  Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so
 please don't reply only to the list.


Try http://clearancerack.ca

They have cheap dedicated servers. They support FreeBSD, and they are
in Canada :D
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-18 Thread cpghost
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:31 +1000
Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
 like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
 of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
 in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
 point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?

Here's a list of FreeBSD-based hosters:
  http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html

I've recently switched to KIONIC.COM: http://www.kionic.com/
but only for simple web hosting (no jails). They may offer
jails too... Service is excellent so far. ;)

Regards,
-cpghost.

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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-18 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:27 PM, cpghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:31 +1000
 Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me.  Ideally I'd
 like a complete machine, but a jail would do too.  I can find plenty
 of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is
 in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany.  Can anybody
 point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use?

 Here's a list of FreeBSD-based hosters:
  http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html


Is anyone here using RootBSD?

I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.

My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month. For the
same price at RootBSD you could get almost eight times as much. The
question is how reliable are they? I can't find any information on
their site about where the data center is or the exact system
specifications.

- Max
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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-18 Thread Sahil Tandon
Maxim Khitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
 experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
 was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.

+1 for JC.  The tech support and availability is unparalleled.  Satisfied 
customer for over three years.

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Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?

2008-06-18 Thread OutBackDingo
I was going to go with them for their XEN based hosting, but i sent them
an email, asking a couple questions, they never replied, so went with
Verio instead

 Is anyone here using RootBSD?
 
 I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive
 experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it
 was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news.
 
 My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month. For the
 same price at RootBSD you could get almost eight times as much. The
 question is how reliable are they? I can't find any information on
 their site about where the data center is or the exact system
 specifications.
 
 - Max

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