Re: Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-06 Thread backyard


--- RW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thursday 05 October 2006 02:39, backyard wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu
> Compiler
> > Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an i386
> > FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any ADA
> > programmers out there can point me to some decent
> > books/online resources for learning the basics and
> > more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be most
> > useful if they referenced ADA95 as that appears to
> be
> > the standard gnats supports.
> 
> When I did an ADA course, Barnes's "Programming in
> Ada 95" was the standard 
> text. That was about 8 years ago, but it's gone to a
> second edition since 
> then.
> 

Thanks, Although it seems to get mixed reviews...
Everyone says it isn't for beginners and some flat out
blast the book. The biggest problem they say is it
reads like a specification manual. I write specs at
work so thats not a big deal to me, and nothing is
more fun then looking through the IBC or NEC...

I understand the basics of object oriented
programming, classes, constructors, destructors but
the syntax and semantics keeps me from writing C++
now...

Does the book read like a specification manual or a
tutorial? Honestly I would almost prefer the
specification manual, I hate getting talked down
too... But on the other hand incomprehensible specs
aren't too good either.

-brian
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Re: Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-06 Thread RW
On Thursday 05 October 2006 02:39, backyard wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu Compiler
> Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an i386
> FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any ADA
> programmers out there can point me to some decent
> books/online resources for learning the basics and
> more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be most
> useful if they referenced ADA95 as that appears to be
> the standard gnats supports.

When I did an ADA course, Barnes's "Programming in Ada 95" was the standard 
text. That was about 8 years ago, but it's gone to a second edition since 
then.

http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Ada-2nd-John-Barnes/dp/0201342936/
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Re: Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-04 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 04 October 2006 20:20, backyard wrote:
> --- Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 04 October 2006 18:57, backyard wrote:
> > > --- Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 04 October 2006 17:39, backyard
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > > Hello All,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu
> > > >
> > > > Compiler
> > > >
> > > > > Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an
> >
> > i386
> >
> > > > > FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any
> >
> > ADA
> >
> > > > > programmers out there can point me to some
> >
> > decent
> >
> > > > > books/online resources for learning the basics
> >
> > and
> >
> > > > > more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be
> >
> > most
> >
> > > > > useful if they referenced ADA95 as that
> >
> > appears to
> >
> > > > be
> > > >
> > > > > the standard gnats supports.
> > > > >
> > > > >  I would also be interested in resources that
> > > >
> > > > describe
> > > >
> > > > > integrating (I guess linking is more
> >
> > appropriate
> >
> > > > of a
> > > >
> > > > > term) C/C++ libraries with ADA. This would
> >
> > mostly
> >
> > > > be
> > > >
> > > > > for basic use with X Windows and Motif, GTK,
> >
> > or
> >
> > > > > whatever makes the windows looks nice when I
> >
> > get
> >
> > > > that
> > > >
> > > > > far, and OpenGL rendering, and likely ATLAS
> >
> > for
> >
> > > > > crunching numbers. Unless there exists some
> >
> > ADA
> >
> > > > > libraries for any of the above.
> > > > >
> > > > > I went to Borders today and couldn't find
> >
> > anything
> >
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > > a search online would comes up with millions
> >
> > of
> >
> > > > books
> > > >
> > > > > that may or may not be useful.
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess I shouldn't be too supprised I
> >
> > couldn't
> >
> > > > even
> > > >
> > > > > seem to find a book on Bind at Borders...
> > > >
> > > > I can't help you with ADA, but the O'Reilly book
> >
> > on
> >
> > > > bind is the best one.
> > > > Borders can order it and get it to you in a
> >
> > couple
> >
> > > > of days. They even get
> > > > them that fast up here in Alaska.
> > > >
> > > > Beech
> > >
> > > thanks, thats the one I was looking for and
> >
> > certain
> >
> > > I'd scene before but no luck tonight. ofcourse I
> >
> > had
> >
> > > no trouble finding the complete freebsd tonight
> >
> > which
> >
> > > is what took me hours to find last time amungst
> >
> > the
> >
> > > books on bind...
> > >
> > > the luck of the irish is a lie...
> > >
> > > does that book cover running bind within a jail?
> >
> > or
> >
> > > just the general configuration of the service?
> >
> > I'm pretty sure it does, but my copy is at the
> > office so I can't say for sure.
> > However, the book  is VERY detailed about all
> > aspects of bind. It really is a
> > must read for anyone serious about running
> > nameservers. For example, it shows
> > you how to split the nameserver so you can resolve
> > your entire inside lan,
> > but outside it will only resolve the servers you
> > choose. It's also is very
> > detailed about how to set up dynamic hosts.
> >
> > Beech
> > --
>
> that is one of the things I wanted to know how to do
> properly... This is Just O'Rielly; Bind or is it one
> of those in a nutshells books. Just want to make sure
> before I pick up the wrong one. I trust it covers
> version 9? if you don't mind and can remember when you
> get back to the office can you send the ISBN just in
> case I need to order it.
>
> or a quick search on Amazon came up with
> DNS and Bind 5th edition
> by Cricket Lui and Paul Albitz
> O'Reilly Publishing
>
> is this the one your refering too?

Yes, that's the right book.

Beech

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Re: Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-04 Thread backyard


--- Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wednesday 04 October 2006 18:57, backyard wrote:
> > --- Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 04 October 2006 17:39, backyard
> wrote:
> > > > Hello All,
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu
> > >
> > > Compiler
> > >
> > > > Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an
> i386
> > > > FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any
> ADA
> > > > programmers out there can point me to some
> decent
> > > > books/online resources for learning the basics
> and
> > > > more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be
> most
> > > > useful if they referenced ADA95 as that
> appears to
> > >
> > > be
> > >
> > > > the standard gnats supports.
> > > >
> > > >  I would also be interested in resources that
> > >
> > > describe
> > >
> > > > integrating (I guess linking is more
> appropriate
> > >
> > > of a
> > >
> > > > term) C/C++ libraries with ADA. This would
> mostly
> > >
> > > be
> > >
> > > > for basic use with X Windows and Motif, GTK,
> or
> > > > whatever makes the windows looks nice when I
> get
> > >
> > > that
> > >
> > > > far, and OpenGL rendering, and likely ATLAS
> for
> > > > crunching numbers. Unless there exists some
> ADA
> > > > libraries for any of the above.
> > > >
> > > > I went to Borders today and couldn't find
> anything
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > > a search online would comes up with millions
> of
> > >
> > > books
> > >
> > > > that may or may not be useful.
> > > >
> > > > I guess I shouldn't be too supprised I
> couldn't
> > >
> > > even
> > >
> > > > seem to find a book on Bind at Borders...
> > >
> > > I can't help you with ADA, but the O'Reilly book
> on
> > > bind is the best one.
> > > Borders can order it and get it to you in a
> couple
> > > of days. They even get
> > > them that fast up here in Alaska.
> > >
> > > Beech
> >
> > thanks, thats the one I was looking for and
> certain
> > I'd scene before but no luck tonight. ofcourse I
> had
> > no trouble finding the complete freebsd tonight
> which
> > is what took me hours to find last time amungst
> the
> > books on bind...
> >
> > the luck of the irish is a lie...
> >
> > does that book cover running bind within a jail?
> or
> > just the general configuration of the service?
> 
> I'm pretty sure it does, but my copy is at the
> office so I can't say for sure. 
> However, the book  is VERY detailed about all
> aspects of bind. It really is a 
> must read for anyone serious about running
> nameservers. For example, it shows 
> you how to split the nameserver so you can resolve
> your entire inside lan, 
> but outside it will only resolve the servers you
> choose. It's also is very 
> detailed about how to set up dynamic hosts.
> 
> Beech
> -- 

that is one of the things I wanted to know how to do
properly... This is Just O'Rielly; Bind or is it one
of those in a nutshells books. Just want to make sure
before I pick up the wrong one. I trust it covers
version 9? if you don't mind and can remember when you
get back to the office can you send the ISBN just in
case I need to order it.

or a quick search on Amazon came up with
DNS and Bind 5th edition
by Cricket Lui and Paul Albitz
O'Reilly Publishing

is this the one your refering too?


-brian
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Re: Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-04 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 04 October 2006 18:57, backyard wrote:
> --- Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 04 October 2006 17:39, backyard wrote:
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu
> >
> > Compiler
> >
> > > Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an i386
> > > FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any ADA
> > > programmers out there can point me to some decent
> > > books/online resources for learning the basics and
> > > more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be most
> > > useful if they referenced ADA95 as that appears to
> >
> > be
> >
> > > the standard gnats supports.
> > >
> > >  I would also be interested in resources that
> >
> > describe
> >
> > > integrating (I guess linking is more appropriate
> >
> > of a
> >
> > > term) C/C++ libraries with ADA. This would mostly
> >
> > be
> >
> > > for basic use with X Windows and Motif, GTK, or
> > > whatever makes the windows looks nice when I get
> >
> > that
> >
> > > far, and OpenGL rendering, and likely ATLAS for
> > > crunching numbers. Unless there exists some ADA
> > > libraries for any of the above.
> > >
> > > I went to Borders today and couldn't find anything
> >
> > and
> >
> > > a search online would comes up with millions of
> >
> > books
> >
> > > that may or may not be useful.
> > >
> > > I guess I shouldn't be too supprised I couldn't
> >
> > even
> >
> > > seem to find a book on Bind at Borders...
> >
> > I can't help you with ADA, but the O'Reilly book on
> > bind is the best one.
> > Borders can order it and get it to you in a couple
> > of days. They even get
> > them that fast up here in Alaska.
> >
> > Beech
>
> thanks, thats the one I was looking for and certain
> I'd scene before but no luck tonight. ofcourse I had
> no trouble finding the complete freebsd tonight which
> is what took me hours to find last time amungst the
> books on bind...
>
> the luck of the irish is a lie...
>
> does that book cover running bind within a jail? or
> just the general configuration of the service?

I'm pretty sure it does, but my copy is at the office so I can't say for sure. 
However, the book  is VERY detailed about all aspects of bind. It really is a 
must read for anyone serious about running nameservers. For example, it shows 
you how to split the nameserver so you can resolve your entire inside lan, 
but outside it will only resolve the servers you choose. It's also is very 
detailed about how to set up dynamic hosts.

Beech
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Re: Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-04 Thread backyard


--- Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wednesday 04 October 2006 17:39, backyard wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu
> Compiler
> > Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an i386
> > FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any ADA
> > programmers out there can point me to some decent
> > books/online resources for learning the basics and
> > more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be most
> > useful if they referenced ADA95 as that appears to
> be
> > the standard gnats supports.
> >
> >  I would also be interested in resources that
> describe
> > integrating (I guess linking is more appropriate
> of a
> > term) C/C++ libraries with ADA. This would mostly
> be
> > for basic use with X Windows and Motif, GTK, or
> > whatever makes the windows looks nice when I get
> that
> > far, and OpenGL rendering, and likely ATLAS for
> > crunching numbers. Unless there exists some ADA
> > libraries for any of the above.
> >
> > I went to Borders today and couldn't find anything
> and
> > a search online would comes up with millions of
> books
> > that may or may not be useful.
> >
> > I guess I shouldn't be too supprised I couldn't
> even
> > seem to find a book on Bind at Borders...
> 
> I can't help you with ADA, but the O'Reilly book on
> bind is the best one. 
> Borders can order it and get it to you in a couple
> of days. They even get 
> them that fast up here in Alaska.
> 
> Beech

thanks, thats the one I was looking for and certain
I'd scene before but no luck tonight. ofcourse I had
no trouble finding the complete freebsd tonight which
is what took me hours to find last time amungst the
books on bind...

the luck of the irish is a lie...

does that book cover running bind within a jail? or
just the general configuration of the service?

-brian

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Re: Good References and or Books for learning ADA

2006-10-04 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 04 October 2006 17:39, backyard wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I'm looking to teach myself ADA using the Gnu Compiler
> Collection and GNATS as my compiler under an i386
> FreeBSD 6.X system. I'm just curious if any ADA
> programmers out there can point me to some decent
> books/online resources for learning the basics and
> more advanced aspects of ADA. They would be most
> useful if they referenced ADA95 as that appears to be
> the standard gnats supports.
>
>  I would also be interested in resources that describe
> integrating (I guess linking is more appropriate of a
> term) C/C++ libraries with ADA. This would mostly be
> for basic use with X Windows and Motif, GTK, or
> whatever makes the windows looks nice when I get that
> far, and OpenGL rendering, and likely ATLAS for
> crunching numbers. Unless there exists some ADA
> libraries for any of the above.
>
> I went to Borders today and couldn't find anything and
> a search online would comes up with millions of books
> that may or may not be useful.
>
> I guess I shouldn't be too supprised I couldn't even
> seem to find a book on Bind at Borders...

I can't help you with ADA, but the O'Reilly book on bind is the best one. 
Borders can order it and get it to you in a couple of days. They even get 
them that fast up here in Alaska.

Beech
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