Re: Mail filtering at server
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 04:52, Micah wrote: Frank Staals wrote: Hey, I'm running FreeBSD 5-stable and I'm using the system as mailserver, so I set up sendmail using this guide: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html as imap server I'm using imap-uw. Now I would like to do the following: 1) I would like to get all mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] in a seperate directory. Currently I do this by filtering my mail in the mailclient ( Thunderbird ). The directory it uses for this is currently ~/mail/Questions/ so I would like to keep that, how can I do this ? Can I add this to /etc/mail/access ? what would then be the syntax ? I actually switched from IMAP-UW (ironic because I'm a UW student) to Cyrus-IMAP to manage my personal email. Cyrus has a built in filtering language called Sieve which works really well for moving my list and RSS feeds into proper IMAP folders. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail.html seems to suggest procmail can do this too. 2) I would also like to filter my mail for spam, again: currently I set up thunderbird to do this: the mail marked as spam/junk dissapears into the junk folder: ( ~/mail/junk ) What is the best way to set this up ? can this be done by sendmail itself or should I install an other program from the portstree I actually haven't tackled this one yet. Try looking through http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html with a keyword of spam. HTH, Micah Try spamassassin. Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail filtering at server
Frank Staals wrote: Hey, I'm running FreeBSD 5-stable and I'm using the system as mailserver, so I set up sendmail using this guide: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html as imap server I'm using imap-uw. Now I would like to do the following: 1) I would like to get all mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] in a seperate directory. Currently I do this by filtering my mail in the mailclient ( Thunderbird ). The directory it uses for this is currently ~/mail/Questions/ so I would like to keep that, how can I do this ? Can I add this to /etc/mail/access ? what would then be the syntax ? 2) I would also like to filter my mail for spam, again: currently I set up thunderbird to do this: the mail marked as spam/junk dissapears into the junk folder: ( ~/mail/junk ) What is the best way to set this up ? can this be done by sendmail itself or should I install an other program from the portstree Thanks in advance, First question: what's wrong with the way TBird does it? (Sorry, that's the consultant in me coming out) It does seem like you want whatever you use to do it in the same way that it's currently being done, so why change? In particular, your (2) above is an area of little consensus; about the only thing most people agree on is that spammers should have *some* body part removed, but we can't even agree which one, much less exactly how to handle their um, product. Some argue that spam should not be processed by your MTA at all; this has resulted in blacklisting and greylisting. Others figure that an automatic trashing of the spam after receipt is OK. First, decide which you are/want to be. Sendmail has, IIRC, a built in way to check RealTime blackhole DNS lists. Any farther than that, you get into Milter (Mail fILTER) or SpamAssassin (as mentioned previously) or Amavis +SpamAssassin, or ..., or ... (there are several ways to skin the cat). Quite possibly, the best question for you ATM is: are you protecting just yourself from spam, or are others going to be affected by what you do to your SendMail? Then, do some research and reading on the problem. I've tried SendMail+Amavis+SpamAssassin with some success. One big issue for me: time to administer the server, in particular the learning curve phase. I've also done some other tricks, like listing IP blocks against sendmail in /etc/hosts.allow; but this has gotten me into trouble as, occasionally, international correspondents (like here on the lists) ended up blocked by my MTA. So, good luck! and, to each his own. Kevin Kinsey -- Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another. -- H. L. Mencken ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail filtering at server
Hi I'd agree with the learning curve for SA. it's not huge, but there is one. as for time spend on admin, for me a few minutes per day making sure there's no new handy handy rules to add by lurking on the sa-users list. I use RulesDuJour to get most of my non-included rules to update automatically, and I use MailScanner to glue the MTA, SA and virus scanners together. Very little work. But yes for a single user T'birds default spam trap may work quite well and do the job quickly. -- Martin On 1/16/06, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Staals wrote: Hey, I'm running FreeBSD 5-stable and I'm using the system as mailserver, so I set up sendmail using this guide: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html as imap server I'm using imap-uw. Now I would like to do the following: 1) I would like to get all mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] in a seperate directory. Currently I do this by filtering my mail in the mailclient ( Thunderbird ). The directory it uses for this is currently ~/mail/Questions/ so I would like to keep that, how can I do this ? Can I add this to /etc/mail/access ? what would then be the syntax ? 2) I would also like to filter my mail for spam, again: currently I set up thunderbird to do this: the mail marked as spam/junk dissapears into the junk folder: ( ~/mail/junk ) What is the best way to set this up ? can this be done by sendmail itself or should I install an other program from the portstree Thanks in advance, First question: what's wrong with the way TBird does it? (Sorry, that's the consultant in me coming out) It does seem like you want whatever you use to do it in the same way that it's currently being done, so why change? In particular, your (2) above is an area of little consensus; about the only thing most people agree on is that spammers should have *some* body part removed, but we can't even agree which one, much less exactly how to handle their um, product. Some argue that spam should not be processed by your MTA at all; this has resulted in blacklisting and greylisting. Others figure that an automatic trashing of the spam after receipt is OK. First, decide which you are/want to be. Sendmail has, IIRC, a built in way to check RealTime blackhole DNS lists. Any farther than that, you get into Milter (Mail fILTER) or SpamAssassin (as mentioned previously) or Amavis +SpamAssassin, or ..., or ... (there are several ways to skin the cat). Quite possibly, the best question for you ATM is: are you protecting just yourself from spam, or are others going to be affected by what you do to your SendMail? Then, do some research and reading on the problem. I've tried SendMail+Amavis+SpamAssassin with some success. One big issue for me: time to administer the server, in particular the learning curve phase. I've also done some other tricks, like listing IP blocks against sendmail in /etc/hosts.allow; but this has gotten me into trouble as, occasionally, international correspondents (like here on the lists) ended up blocked by my MTA. So, good luck! and, to each his own. Kevin Kinsey -- Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another. -- H. L. Mencken ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail filtering at server
Frank Staals wrote: Hey, I'm running FreeBSD 5-stable and I'm using the system as mailserver, so I set up sendmail using this guide: http://www.puresimplicity.net/~hemi/freebsd/sendmail.html as imap server I'm using imap-uw. Now I would like to do the following: 1) I would like to get all mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] in a seperate directory. Currently I do this by filtering my mail in the mailclient ( Thunderbird ). The directory it uses for this is currently ~/mail/Questions/ so I would like to keep that, how can I do this ? Can I add this to /etc/mail/access ? what would then be the syntax ? I actually switched from IMAP-UW (ironic because I'm a UW student) to Cyrus-IMAP to manage my personal email. Cyrus has a built in filtering language called Sieve which works really well for moving my list and RSS feeds into proper IMAP folders. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail.html seems to suggest procmail can do this too. 2) I would also like to filter my mail for spam, again: currently I set up thunderbird to do this: the mail marked as spam/junk dissapears into the junk folder: ( ~/mail/junk ) What is the best way to set this up ? can this be done by sendmail itself or should I install an other program from the portstree I actually haven't tackled this one yet. Try looking through http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html with a keyword of spam. HTH, Micah Thanks in advance, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
