Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD...

2011-01-24 Thread Outback Dingo
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Kevin Wilcox wrote:

> On 24 January 2011 13:42, Outback Dingo  wrote:
>
> > loose ESucksXi and install XCP 1.0 and for management xencenter /
> >  openxencenter will run on FreeBSD,
>
> I wish I could recommend XCP and/or Xen to the average user but trying
> to install FreeBSD 8.1-amd64 in Xen, even running in HVM, doesn't come
> close to the "boot and go" ease of FreeBSD in VMWare products. That
> opinion may change once I get a template similar to the provided Linux
> templates but until then, as far as I'm concerned, Xen can't touch
> ESXi.
>
> I would *love* for someone like RootBSD, who specialises in FreeBSD on
> Xen, to come through with tips on how they get it to work so well. In
> a stock install, running in an HVM environment, I get boot failures
> approximately two-thirds of the time, *usually* right after the ACPI
> APIC TABLE  line but it does vary. By "boot failure" I mean
> vCPU usage drops to 0% for at least 10 - 15 minutes before I give up
> and reboot.
>
> kmw
>

hrmmm thats strange, we simply uploaded the iso in xcp and created a VM in
the UI, using the iso as install media
pretty much the same as you would in VirtualBox or Vmware, odd you have had
so many issues, ive been
running FreeBSD under XEN since 6.2 never had any issues getting it
working, im sure though its dauting
when you dont have a UI to manage it, though its also quite doable, but
there is openxencenter now
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Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD...

2011-01-24 Thread Kevin Wilcox
On 24 January 2011 13:42, Outback Dingo  wrote:

> loose ESucksXi and install XCP 1.0 and for management xencenter /
>  openxencenter will run on FreeBSD,

I wish I could recommend XCP and/or Xen to the average user but trying
to install FreeBSD 8.1-amd64 in Xen, even running in HVM, doesn't come
close to the "boot and go" ease of FreeBSD in VMWare products. That
opinion may change once I get a template similar to the provided Linux
templates but until then, as far as I'm concerned, Xen can't touch
ESXi.

I would *love* for someone like RootBSD, who specialises in FreeBSD on
Xen, to come through with tips on how they get it to work so well. In
a stock install, running in an HVM environment, I get boot failures
approximately two-thirds of the time, *usually* right after the ACPI
APIC TABLE  line but it does vary. By "boot failure" I mean
vCPU usage drops to 0% for at least 10 - 15 minutes before I give up
and reboot.

kmw
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Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD...

2011-01-24 Thread Outback Dingo
loose ESucksXi and install XCP 1.0 and for management xencenter /
 openxencenter will run on FreeBSD,

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Peter Harrison
wrote:

> Kevin,
>
> Sorry for top posting - my phone makes it awkward.
>
> I hadn't thought of running a Windows vm. Do you think that would work as a
> vm on the server with a connection via RDP?
>
> Disappointing that the tools are so Windows-centric. Happy to consider Xen
> - is that harder to deploy though?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Peter.
>
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD...
> From: Kevin Wilcox 
> Date: 23/01/2011 22:46
>
> On 23 January 2011 17:41, Peter Harrison 
> wrote:
>
> > I don't want to be stuck using Windows to manage this machine though.
> What are my options for managing this machine and the VM's from my FreeBSD
> laptop? I've enable ssh access, but can I control all the VM's this way? Is
> there a command line or X-Windows option for remotely management?
>
> I don't have SSH access to our ESX servers at work but I do have
> vSphere access. I've found that the easiest thing for me to do is to
> just keep a Windows VM via VirtualBox.
>
> Sadly, it looks like XenServer has the same issue - the really nice
> GUI is basically Windows only. At least Xen still has a rich CLI
> option, my understanding is that as VMWare does away with the console,
> they're going GUI/Windows-management only.
>
> kmw
>
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Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD...

2011-01-24 Thread Peter Harrison
Krad,

Sorry for top posting - my phone makes it awkward.

Thanks - although I don't intend to admin this over the internet, just within 
my home network. Are there any pre-built appliances specifically to admin the 
host?

Thanks again,


Peter.

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Subject: Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD...
From: krad 
Date: 24/01/2011 10:22

On 23 January 2011 22:41, Peter Harrison  wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I've just started messing around with my new Proliant. I've installed ESXi 
> 4.1 and have a VM up and running with 8.2-RC2 using the (Windows only) 
> vSphere client.
>
> I don't want to be stuck using Windows to manage this machine though. What 
> are my options for managing this machine and the VM's from my FreeBSD laptop? 
> I've enable ssh access, but can I control all the VM's this way? Is there a 
> command line or X-Windows option for remotely management?
>
> Any tips or suggestions gratefully receivied!
>
> TIA.
>
>
>
> Peter Harrison.
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There are command line tools for linux I believe, not sure if they
will work on freebsd though. However what I have done on my esx is
install a freebsd host, that has 2x virtual nics. One has a public ip
and the other goes into the vmware management lan. I then enabled ssh
on the esxi host. I can then get a shell and do all manner of
wonderful things 8). The freebsd box provided the security for the
esxi host by locking down access with pf and a limited number of accts

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Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD...

2011-01-24 Thread Peter Harrison
Kevin,

Sorry for top posting - my phone makes it awkward.

I hadn't thought of running a Windows vm. Do you think that would work as a vm 
on the server with a connection via RDP?

Disappointing that the tools are so Windows-centric. Happy to consider Xen - is 
that harder to deploy though?

Thanks,


Peter.

-original message-
Subject: Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD...
From: Kevin Wilcox 
Date: 23/01/2011 22:46

On 23 January 2011 17:41, Peter Harrison  wrote:

> I don't want to be stuck using Windows to manage this machine though. What 
> are my options for managing this machine and the VM's from my FreeBSD laptop? 
> I've enable ssh access, but can I control all the VM's this way? Is there a 
> command line or X-Windows option for remotely management?

I don't have SSH access to our ESX servers at work but I do have
vSphere access. I've found that the easiest thing for me to do is to
just keep a Windows VM via VirtualBox.

Sadly, it looks like XenServer has the same issue - the really nice
GUI is basically Windows only. At least Xen still has a rich CLI
option, my understanding is that as VMWare does away with the console,
they're going GUI/Windows-management only.

kmw

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Re: Managing ESXi from FreeBSD...

2011-01-24 Thread krad
On 23 January 2011 22:41, Peter Harrison  wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I've just started messing around with my new Proliant. I've installed ESXi 
> 4.1 and have a VM up and running with 8.2-RC2 using the (Windows only) 
> vSphere client.
>
> I don't want to be stuck using Windows to manage this machine though. What 
> are my options for managing this machine and the VM's from my FreeBSD laptop? 
> I've enable ssh access, but can I control all the VM's this way? Is there a 
> command line or X-Windows option for remotely management?
>
> Any tips or suggestions gratefully receivied!
>
> TIA.
>
>
>
> Peter Harrison.
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There are command line tools for linux I believe, not sure if they
will work on freebsd though. However what I have done on my esx is
install a freebsd host, that has 2x virtual nics. One has a public ip
and the other goes into the vmware management lan. I then enabled ssh
on the esxi host. I can then get a shell and do all manner of
wonderful things 8). The freebsd box provided the security for the
esxi host by locking down access with pf and a limited number of accts
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