Re: Obtaining portsmanager meta package for alternate OS
On July 14, 2005 04:03 pm, Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 14 July 2005 11:37, Garrett Cooper wrote: Hello, I was wondering if anyone could point me to the release notes or code so I could look up the dependencies for the portsmanager package and possibly compile it on Mac OS X Tiger. Try running configure then make just like any other linux program and see if it compiles, if it doesn't let me know what the error is. I understand Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, does it have FreeBSD's port infrastructure? My Mac (OSX 10.2) doesn't have anything remotely resembling a port infrastructure installed as part of the OS. All the OSS that I've installed was done through what I will call binary 'bundles' mostly from .dmg files. They each provided their own installer (usually using the applescript langauge). For those who might care, a .dmg file is a mac disk image and seams to be the mac equivolent of tar. Sometimes the installer is a text file that says move the files to your applications directory. For example can you do things like: make make install make package make deinstall ??? You would need to install a compiler. If the above work diferently or /var/db/pkg/* is different then portmanager won't work. Would be interesting to know the similarities/differences between FreeBSD and Mac OS X ports infrastructure. /var isn't really used by the MAC except for /var/log and /var/run. As far as portmanager's dependices, to run it requires libc and to compile just needs standard autotools if I recall correctly. My FreeBSD machine is currently at home (sadly without an internet connection to the outside world :(), and I would like to keep it up to date by periodically fetching the ports 'source files'/packages and port snapshots. So I thought I could accomplish this via building the portsmanager package and running it off of my laptop at school since it's the only way I can accomplish my task at hand. However, with that in mind, I was wondering if there was a better way to fetch ports/packages without having to manhandle too many programs/scripts, or if anyone has discovered a better solution to this type of 'issue'. Thanks and your responses are greatly appreciated as solving this 'problem' will help save me a great deal of time :)! -Garrett To use portmanager this way you'll need a way to keep your ports tree current and a way to get the current distfiles. If you can do these two things somehow then just drop the current distfiles into /usr/ports/distfiles and update your ports tree and portmanager should run OK. -Mike -- Ean Kingston E-Mail: ean AT hedron DOT org URL: http://www.hedron.org/ I am currently looking for work. If you need competent system/network administration please feel free to contact me directly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Obtaining portsmanager meta package for alternate OS
Try running configure then make just like any other linux program and see if it compiles, if it doesn't let me know what the error is. I understand Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, does it have FreeBSD's port infrastructure? My Mac (OSX 10.2) doesn't have anything remotely resembling a port infrastructure installed as part of the OS. All the OSS that I've installed was done through what I will call binary 'bundles' mostly from .dmg files. They each provided their own installer (usually using the applescript langauge). The nearest OS X analogy to the ports system is fink: http://fink.sourceforge.net/ js ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Obtaining portsmanager meta package for alternate OS
On Friday 15 July 2005 07:08, you wrote: Try running configure then make just like any other linux program and see if it compiles, if it doesn't let me know what the error is. I understand Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, does it have FreeBSD's port infrastructure? My Mac (OSX 10.2) doesn't have anything remotely resembling a port infrastructure installed as part of the OS. All the OSS that I've installed was done through what I will call binary 'bundles' mostly from .dmg files. They each provided their own installer (usually using the applescript langauge). The nearest OS X analogy to the ports system is fink: http://fink.sourceforge.net/ js Just read Fink's description, thanks for the link. My opinion is FreeBSD's ports system is lightyears ahead of Fink and Fink is headed in absolutly the wrong direction, reminds me of the other BSDs. What makes FreeBSD shine is the same ports tree works across many versions of FreeBSD, trying to control the ports tree by versioning is madness, int my humble opinion anyways. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Obtaining portsmanager meta package for alternate OS
On Friday 15 July 2005 06:54, Ean Kingston wrote: On July 14, 2005 04:03 pm, Michael C. Shultz wrote: On Thursday 14 July 2005 11:37, Garrett Cooper wrote: Hello, I was wondering if anyone could point me to the release notes or code so I could look up the dependencies for the portsmanager package and possibly compile it on Mac OS X Tiger. Try running configure then make just like any other linux program and see if it compiles, if it doesn't let me know what the error is. I understand Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, does it have FreeBSD's port infrastructure? My Mac (OSX 10.2) doesn't have anything remotely resembling a port infrastructure installed as part of the OS. All the OSS that I've installed was done through what I will call binary 'bundles' mostly from .dmg files. They each provided their own installer (usually using the applescript langauge). Too bad for Apple, the ports system is what makes FreeBSD shine, no point in trying to get portmanager running in OS X in any case. -Mike For those who might care, a .dmg file is a mac disk image and seams to be the mac equivolent of tar. Sometimes the installer is a text file that says move the files to your applications directory. For example can you do things like: make make install make package make deinstall ??? You would need to install a compiler. If the above work diferently or /var/db/pkg/* is different then portmanager won't work. Would be interesting to know the similarities/differences between FreeBSD and Mac OS X ports infrastructure. /var isn't really used by the MAC except for /var/log and /var/run. As far as portmanager's dependices, to run it requires libc and to compile just needs standard autotools if I recall correctly. My FreeBSD machine is currently at home (sadly without an internet connection to the outside world :(), and I would like to keep it up to date by periodically fetching the ports 'source files'/packages and port snapshots. So I thought I could accomplish this via building the portsmanager package and running it off of my laptop at school since it's the only way I can accomplish my task at hand. However, with that in mind, I was wondering if there was a better way to fetch ports/packages without having to manhandle too many programs/scripts, or if anyone has discovered a better solution to this type of 'issue'. Thanks and your responses are greatly appreciated as solving this 'problem' will help save me a great deal of time :)! -Garrett To use portmanager this way you'll need a way to keep your ports tree current and a way to get the current distfiles. If you can do these two things somehow then just drop the current distfiles into /usr/ports/distfiles and update your ports tree and portmanager should run OK. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Obtaining portsmanager meta package for alternate OS
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:08:05 -0400 (EDT), Jacob A. Siehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try running configure then make just like any other linux program and see if it compiles, if it doesn't let me know what the error is. I understand Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, does it have FreeBSD's port infrastructure? My Mac (OSX 10.2) doesn't have anything remotely resembling a port infrastructure installed as part of the OS. All the OSS that I've installed was done through what I will call binary 'bundles' mostly from .dmg files. They each provided their own installer (usually using the applescript langauge). The nearest OS X analogy to the ports system is fink: http://fink.sourceforge.net/ There is also DarwinPorts (http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/) and the NetBSD pkgsrc (http://www.pkgsrc.org/) system (which, IMHO, is more ports-like than Fink) also supports MacOS X (although I'm not sure if pkgsrc still has the requirement of a case-sensitive file system). DarwinPorts, pkgsrc, and Fink can co-exist on the same system. I use mainly DarwinPorts on a MacOS X Server system I use, with Fink sometimes to fill in the gaps when a port is missing from the DarwinPorts collection. Both DarwinPorts and Fink have an update mechanism. DarwinPorts supports multiple views of a package, too, allowing multiple versions to exist for those ports that require older/newer versions to build or run properly. If you're into GUIs, Fink has FinkCommander to scratch that itch. Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid. --- Frank Vincent Zappa ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Obtaining portsmanager meta package for alternate OS
On Thursday 14 July 2005 11:37, Garrett Cooper wrote: Hello, I was wondering if anyone could point me to the release notes or code so I could look up the dependencies for the portsmanager package and possibly compile it on Mac OS X Tiger. Try running configure then make just like any other linux program and see if it compiles, if it doesn't let me know what the error is. I understand Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD, does it have FreeBSD's port infrastructure? For example can you do things like: make make install make package make deinstall ??? If the above work diferently or /var/db/pkg/* is different then portmanager won't work. Would be interesting to know the similarities/differences between FreeBSD and Mac OS X ports infrastructure. As far as portmanager's dependices, to run it requires libc and to compile just needs standard autotools if I recall correctly. My FreeBSD machine is currently at home (sadly without an internet connection to the outside world :(), and I would like to keep it up to date by periodically fetching the ports 'source files'/packages and port snapshots. So I thought I could accomplish this via building the portsmanager package and running it off of my laptop at school since it's the only way I can accomplish my task at hand. However, with that in mind, I was wondering if there was a better way to fetch ports/packages without having to manhandle too many programs/scripts, or if anyone has discovered a better solution to this type of 'issue'. Thanks and your responses are greatly appreciated as solving this 'problem' will help save me a great deal of time :)! -Garrett To use portmanager this way you'll need a way to keep your ports tree current and a way to get the current distfiles. If you can do these two things somehow then just drop the current distfiles into /usr/ports/distfiles and update your ports tree and portmanager should run OK. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]