Re: Obtaining the unix o/s

2003-12-04 Thread HOLLOW, CHRISTOPHER
All I need to do is burn the iso images to my CD's and I've got the
entgire freebsd unix o/s?
Yes.  The whole show.  Including the current packages/ports collection.


After that, is it going to be quite a process to
install the software, or am I better off spending 60 bucks and get the
CD's from a retailer?
The installaion process is the same whether you download and burn the .iso as if you buy the retail CD.  Either way, expect it to be "quite a porcess."  =)  The retail box ships with CDs, documentation and some sweet packaging.  The online Handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ is a dynamite reference and should be ample to get you up and running.  But...being the good BSD user that you are, you can sleep well at night knowing that a portion of the proceeds of your retail FreeBSD purchase ended up in the coffers of the development team.

Chris

Dominick DiMantova wrote:

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

 

Dominick DiMantova wrote:

   

Hello,

My name is Dominick DiMantova and I have a question, or two:

1. what is the difference  in either purchasing the media or downloading
the software? If I want to download the software, when I go to one of the
ftp sites, I'm looking at the ste with alot of folders; how do I know what
I need to download? 

 

Before committing too much time and energy, grab the
FBSD handbook and read a few chapters.
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/handbook
 (english version, multiple formats)
If you are thinking of downloading a CD, then you're looking
for an "ISO image" file.  IIRC, there are some folders or links to
folders fairly clearly marked according to system architecture;
for Intel (PC compatible) machines, look for "i386".  After that,
the catch would be, "do I want 4.x, or 5.x" and, after that's
decided, there are a couple of other options such as
"the MINI ISO", the "standard ISO", etc.
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386

   

All I need to do is burn the iso images to my CD's and I've got the
entgire freebsd unix o/s? After that, is it going to be quite a process to
install the software, or am I better off spending 60 bucks and get the
CD's from a retailer? 
 

My preferred method of installing FBSD is stated on the freebsd.org
home page.  "You need 2 freshly formatted floppies and these 
instructions"

   

2. Is X Windows a separate product or does it come bundled with freebsd?



 

A seperate product.  If you create a FBSD box via the Internet,
some additional bandwidth/time will be necessary to add
X to the system.  If you buy a FBSD CD set, you should have
sufficient materials on those CD's to create a working FBSD+
X Windows system without much 'Net connectivity.
   

Thanks.



Sincerely,

Dominick DiMantova

 

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
   

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Re: Obtaining the unix o/s

2003-12-04 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 02:41:36PM -0500, Dominick DiMantova wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

> > If you are thinking of downloading a CD, then you're looking
> > for an "ISO image" file.  IIRC, there are some folders or links to
> > folders fairly clearly marked according to system architecture;
> > for Intel (PC compatible) machines, look for "i386".  After that,
> > the catch would be, "do I want 4.x, or 5.x" and, after that's
> > decided, there are a couple of other options such as
> > "the MINI ISO", the "standard ISO", etc.
> > 
> > 
> >   ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386

> All I need to do is burn the iso images to my CD's and I've got the
> entgire freebsd unix o/s? After that, is it going to be quite a process to
> install the software, or am I better off spending 60 bucks and get the
> CD's from a retailer? 

After downloading the ISO images and burning them to CD, you will have
essentially the same thing as the first two disks of the four disk
sets that you can spend $60 to buy from a retailer.

Those first two disks contain the entire FreeBSD O/S plus various
extra important packages, like X windows.  Infact, you can install the
base system just using the 'mini-iso' which consists of the essential
parts of the first disk.

The remaining disks in the 4 CD set contain various precompiled
software packages: however the collection available is extensive, and
too much to fit in the space available, so only some of the most
popular stuff gets onto the CDs.

The entire collection, as well as the system images is available from
the FTP servers -- as pre-compiled packages from the (except those
packages where the license terms don't permit redistribution) and some
source tar balls -- or you can obtain source code etc. via cvsup.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Obtaining the unix o/s

2003-12-04 Thread Dominick DiMantova
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

> Dominick DiMantova wrote:
> 
> >Hello,
> >
> >My name is Dominick DiMantova and I have a question, or two:
> >
> >1. what is the difference  in either purchasing the media or downloading
> >the software? If I want to download the software, when I go to one of the
> >ftp sites, I'm looking at the ste with alot of folders; how do I know what
> >I need to download? 
> >  
> >
> 
> Before committing too much time and energy, grab the
> FBSD handbook and read a few chapters.
> 
> 
>   ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/handbook
>   (english version, multiple formats)
> 
> If you are thinking of downloading a CD, then you're looking
> for an "ISO image" file.  IIRC, there are some folders or links to
> folders fairly clearly marked according to system architecture;
> for Intel (PC compatible) machines, look for "i386".  After that,
> the catch would be, "do I want 4.x, or 5.x" and, after that's
> decided, there are a couple of other options such as
> "the MINI ISO", the "standard ISO", etc.
> 
> 
>   ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386
> 
All I need to do is burn the iso images to my CD's and I've got the
entgire freebsd unix o/s? After that, is it going to be quite a process to
install the software, or am I better off spending 60 bucks and get the
CD's from a retailer? 
> My preferred method of installing FBSD is stated on the freebsd.org
> home page.  "You need 2 freshly formatted floppies and these 
> instructions"
> 
> >
> >2. Is X Windows a separate product or does it come bundled with freebsd?
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> A seperate product.  If you create a FBSD box via the Internet,
> some additional bandwidth/time will be necessary to add
> X to the system.  If you buy a FBSD CD set, you should have
> sufficient materials on those CD's to create a working FBSD+
> X Windows system without much 'Net connectivity.
> 
> >Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >Dominick DiMantova
> >  
> >
> HTH,
> 
> Kevin Kinsey
> DaleCo, S.P.
> 
> 

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Re: Obtaining the unix o/s

2003-12-04 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Dominick DiMantova wrote:

Hello,

My name is Dominick DiMantova and I have a question, or two:

1. what is the difference  in either purchasing the media or downloading
the software? If I want to download the software, when I go to one of the
ftp sites, I'm looking at the ste with alot of folders; how do I know what
I need to download? 
 

Before committing too much time and energy, grab the
FBSD handbook and read a few chapters.
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/handbook
 (english version, multiple formats)
If you are thinking of downloading a CD, then you're looking
for an "ISO image" file.  IIRC, there are some folders or links to
folders fairly clearly marked according to system architecture;
for Intel (PC compatible) machines, look for "i386".  After that,
the catch would be, "do I want 4.x, or 5.x" and, after that's
decided, there are a couple of other options such as
"the MINI ISO", the "standard ISO", etc.
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386



My preferred method of installing FBSD is stated on the freebsd.org
home page.  "You need 2 freshly formatted floppies and these 
instructions"

2. Is X Windows a separate product or does it come bundled with freebsd?

 

A seperate product.  If you create a FBSD box via the Internet,
some additional bandwidth/time will be necessary to add
X to the system.  If you buy a FBSD CD set, you should have
sufficient materials on those CD's to create a working FBSD+
X Windows system without much 'Net connectivity.
Thanks.



Sincerely,

Dominick DiMantova
 

HTH,

Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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