Re: SSH and gigabit NICs

2005-07-10 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Gustavo De Nardin wrote:


On 07/07/05, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Does anyone have a clue what might be going on?
   



Dunno, but you might take a look at /usr/ports/security/hpn-ssh/:

 

Thanks for the tip.  Will have a look as soon as I get the time to play 
again :-(



Does anyone know if/how the none Cipher is really available? I need
ssh only for authentication when transfering backups, and encryption
makes a difference in transfer speed on slow machines...

I'm in the same boat!  If you find out about none then please let us 
know.  If the code for a none cypher really is there, then it may be 
straightforward to turn it on.  Then again, there may be a good reason 
why it *isn't* turned on.  Might be worth asking on an ssh mailing list 
about this one... will be looking for one as soon as I get the time to 
play again :-(  (Damn, I hates work; sigh).


--Alex



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Re: SSH and gigabit NICs

2005-07-10 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Gustavo De Nardin wrote:


On 07/07/05, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Does anyone have a clue what might be going on?
   



Dunno, but you might take a look at /usr/ports/security/hpn-ssh/:

WWW: http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/

 

Actually, this also seems to add support for a none cipher.  See the 
bottom of the page at the URL above.


--Alex

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Re: SSH and gigabit NICs

2005-07-08 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

Deyan Dyankov wrote:


I'm not sure that this is the problem, but ..keep in mind, that ssh
encrypts the data and ftp doesn't.
The delay might be actually the time for encryption, right?

 

Yes, this is a possibility, and I'll revisit it tonight.  I thought I'd 
looked at the CPU usage during transfer, but I should do so again. It 
still seems strange to me that SSH got slower over Gigabit.  It it had 
just not gotten faster, then the encryption would be the obvious 
culprit, but to get slower...


Unfortunately there seems to be no way to turn off the encryption for 
SSH, which would be the easiest test.


Thanks for the suggestion,

--Alex

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Re: SSH and gigabit NICs

2005-07-08 Thread Gustavo De Nardin
On 08/07/05, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Unfortunately there seems to be no way to turn off the encryption for
 SSH, which would be the easiest test.

Well, looking at /usr/src/crypto/openssh/cipher.c, there is a none
in struct Cipher. But specifying 'none' in Ciphers in sshd_config, I
get Bad SSH2 cipher spec 'none'. trying to start sshd.

Does anyone know if/how the none Cipher is really available? I need
ssh only for authentication when transfering backups, and encryption
makes a difference in transfer speed on slow machines...

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Re: SSH and gigabit NICs

2005-07-08 Thread Gustavo De Nardin
On 07/07/05, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone have a clue what might be going on?

Dunno, but you might take a look at /usr/ports/security/hpn-ssh/:

--- pkg-descr ---
High Performance Enabled SSH/SCP
from the Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center

hpn-ssh is a version of OpenSSH modified to support high-performance
bulk transfers (such as with scp or rsync).  These modifications are
required because:

  SCP and the underlying SSH protocol is network performance limited by
  statically defined internal flow control buffers. These buffers often
  end up acting as a brake on the network throughput of SCP especially
  on long and wide paths. Modifying the ssh code to allow the flow
  control buffers to be defined at run time eliminates this bottleneck.

WWW: http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/

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