Re: Some questions about installing a web server.

2008-03-07 Thread Ivan Voras
Ivan Voras wrote:

 Unless you need software that doesn't work on i386, you should install
 amd64.

Sorry, this should have been : Unless you need software that ONLY works
on i386, you should install amd64.



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Re: Some questions about installing a web server.

2008-03-06 Thread Ivan Voras
刘伟南 wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 I'm a freshman man here. Please do not mind my silly questions.
 
 I am ready to install a web server, the main hardwares are as follows:
 CPU 4-core xeon 5410 * 2
 MEM kingston 2G EEC FBD667 * 2
 HD ST146G SAS 15K * 1
 
 I have several questions.
 Which platform should I chooses? amd64 or i386?

Unless you need software that doesn't work on i386, you should install
amd64.

 Is 4G memory enough for 2000 people online?

This is very much dependent on what will the server actually do. For a
simple web (PHP?) application, yes. For a very complex web application,
no. You probably also need a database there, and that will complicate
things.

 If you have others suggestions please tell me.
 Thanks in advance.

I suppose the disk drive specification is a placeholder - you'll
probably need many more drives in real deployment.



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Re: Some questions about installing a web server.

2008-03-06 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 07:41:28AM -0500, Robert Huff wrote:
 
 
 Ivan Voras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I am ready to install a web server, the main hardwares are as follows:
  CPU 4-core xeon 5410 * 2
  MEM kingston 2G EEC FBD667 * 2
  HD ST146G SAS 15K * 1
 
Unless you need software that doesn't work on i386, you should
install amd64.
 
   Um ... they said xeon.  Doesn't that mean ia64?

No, it does not.  ia64 is for Intel's Itanium series CPU's. Completely
different architecture.
amd64 is for those CPU's implementing the AMD64 architecture.  This is
also known as x86-64.  Intel used to call their implementation EMT64, but
I think they have changed that since.  AFAIK all of Intel's recent
x86 CPUs support amd64. (This includes all Core2Duo based CPUs as well
as the Xeon versions thereof.)




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Re: Some questions about installing a web server.

2008-03-06 Thread Robert Huff


Ivan Voras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am ready to install a web server, the main hardwares are as follows:
 CPU 4-core xeon 5410 * 2
 MEM kingston 2G EEC FBD667 * 2
 HD ST146G SAS 15K * 1

   Unless you need software that doesn't work on i386, you should
   install amd64.

Um ... they said xeon.  Doesn't that mean ia64?


Robert Huff

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Re: Some questions about installing a web server.

2008-03-06 Thread Ivan Voras
Vivian Liu wrote:
 Thanks a lot again.
 
 There are running some application has been built using PHP in this web
 box.
 Also need a small mail system and mysql for a game server that running
 on a win2003 machine.
 Maybe I need to upgrade the memory to 8G.

8 GB should be ok for most purposes. But again, you need more disk
drives, not for the space but for performance and resilience to drive
problems (RAID).




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Re: Some questions about installing a web server.

2008-03-06 Thread Vivian Liu

Thanks Robert,

See http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLANW
It may be a 64-bit Intel microprocessor.

Vivian


On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:41:28 +0800, Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ivan Voras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I am ready to install a web server, the main hardwares are as follows:
CPU 4-core xeon 5410 * 2
MEM kingston 2G EEC FBD667 * 2
HD ST146G SAS 15K * 1


  Unless you need software that doesn't work on i386, you should
  install amd64.


Um ... they said xeon.  Doesn't that mean ia64?


Robert Huff

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Re: Some questions about installing a web server.

2008-03-06 Thread Vivian Liu

Thanks a lot again.

There are running some application has been built using PHP in this web  
box.
Also need a small mail system and mysql for a game server that running on  
a win2003 machine.

Maybe I need to upgrade the memory to 8G.

Regards.
Vivian


On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:07:05 +0800, Ivan Voras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


刘伟南 wrote:

Hi guys,

I'm a freshman man here. Please do not mind my silly questions.

I am ready to install a web server, the main hardwares are as follows:
CPU 4-core xeon 5410 * 2
MEM kingston 2G EEC FBD667 * 2
HD ST146G SAS 15K * 1

I have several questions.
Which platform should I chooses? amd64 or i386?


Unless you need software that doesn't work on i386, you should install
amd64.


Is 4G memory enough for 2000 people online?


This is very much dependent on what will the server actually do. For a
simple web (PHP?) application, yes. For a very complex web application,
no. You probably also need a database there, and that will complicate
things.


If you have others suggestions please tell me.
Thanks in advance.


I suppose the disk drive specification is a placeholder - you'll
probably need many more drives in real deployment.


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Re: Some questions about installing a web server.

2008-03-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I'm a freshman man here. Please do not mind my silly questions.

I am ready to install a web server, the main hardwares are as follows:
CPU 4-core xeon 5410 * 2
MEM kingston 2G EEC FBD667 * 2
HD ST146G SAS 15K * 1

I have several questions.
Which platform should I chooses? amd64 or i386?


amd64


Is 4G memory enough for 2000 people online?


what does 2000 people online mean. 2000 people fetching WWW page in the 
same time? if so - pentium 200 with 64MB would suffice :)

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Re: Some questions about installing a web server.

2008-03-06 Thread Ivan Voras
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 
 what does 2000 people online mean. 2000 people fetching WWW page in the
 same time? if so - pentium 200 with 64MB would suffice :)

I think the time of static .html files has passed years ago :)



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Re: Some questions about installing a web server.

2008-03-06 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Thursday, March 06, 2008 16:25:44 +0800 ?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Hi guys,

I'm a freshman man here. Please do not mind my silly questions.

I am ready to install a web server, the main hardwares are as follows:
CPU 4-core xeon 5410 * 2
MEM kingston 2G EEC FBD667 * 2
HD ST146G SAS 15K * 1

I have several questions.
Which platform should I chooses? amd64 or i386?


i386.


Is 4G memory enough for 2000 people online?


Depends on what you're doing.  Should be for most cases.


If you have others suggestions please tell me.


Install and use mod_security to protect your web server from attack.

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Re: Some questions about installing a web server.

2008-03-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I have several questions.
Which platform should I chooses? amd64 or i386?


i386.

why?
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Re: Some questions about installing a web server.

2008-03-06 Thread Dominic Fandrey

Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On Thursday, March 06, 2008 16:25:44 +0800 ?? 
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Hi guys,

I'm a freshman man here. Please do not mind my silly questions.

I am ready to install a web server, the main hardwares are as follows:
CPU 4-core xeon 5410 * 2
MEM kingston 2G EEC FBD667 * 2
HD ST146G SAS 15K * 1

I have several questions.
Which platform should I chooses? amd64 or i386?


i386.


Definitely not.


Is 4G memory enough for 2000 people online?


Depends on what you're doing.  Should be for most cases.



With 4G of memory i386 really isn't a choice. Unless you feel adventurous and 
want to try PAE. I'd stick with amd64. All the webserver stuff works fine 
there and it allows you to extend the memory later on if the need arises.

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