Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-08 Thread Dave
On 7 Jun 2011 at 21:03, Jack Raats wrote:
 
 - Original Message - 
  Hi All.
  
  Total frustration here.  Before I incinerate the luckless box and
  get my coat.
  
  For whatever reason, I can't get my head round how Exactly to
  create and use a jail, for a small webserver (Hiawatha) on FreeBSD
  V8.x
 
 First compile the complete system. (kernel and world)
 Then install ezjail form the ports
 
 Then edit ezjail.conf in /usr/local/etc
 enable ezjail in /etc/rc.conf
 
 Then creating the base system:
 ezjail-admin update -i
 ezjail-admin update -P
 
 after this you can create a jail using:
 
 ezjail-admin create hostname.domain.net ip_address_of_jail
 
 you can logon to your jail using:
 ezjail-admin console hostname.domain.net
 
 It's quite easy
 
 Grtz
 Jack

The problem is Jack, that build / make etc don't run.

Just saying compile the complete system is not much help, when as 
others have pointed out, part of the needed source collection is (was) 
missing.

Re: It's quite easy.   Only when you know how!

Dave B

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Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-08 Thread Dave
On 7 Jun 2011 at 12:10, Chuck Swiger wrote:

 On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Dave wrote:
  For whatever reason, I can't get my head round how Exactly to
  create and use a jail, for a small webserver (Hiawatha) on FreeBSD
  V8.x
 
 Did you start with the Handbook?
 
   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html
   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails-build.html
 

Yes, I have been there many times.  It must be me, because I do not find 
it much if any help.   Cant see the wood for all the trees or 
something.

Like I said, the handbook  is a good Reference, but not a How To.

Plus, once I've gone and clicked on a few of the refereal links, it's way 
too easy to loose the plot, or ones place in the overall scheme of 
things..


 You might also consider sysutils/ezjail; see:
 
   http://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail
 
 [ ... ]
  I have (aledgedly) downloaded the Sys sources, and Ports.   At least
  it sat there for ages after fumbling arround the sysinstall menu
  system (whoever designed that should be forced to use it!  It's
  behaviour is apalling, flitting from one context to another with no
  warning, in a way such that you can't see what you've selected,
  without affecting the selection, or something else..)
  
  Anyway, trying to follow various instructions I found, and those
  pointed out to me by other helpful souls here (thanks Kaya and
  Peter.)  But Whatever I do, I get a Don't know how to build world.
  Stop error.
  
  I am logged in as root, and AFIK have downloaded all the sys and
  ports sources..   How do I confirm that, are there trace logs kept
  somewhere?
 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ports-using.html

As Andy and Kaya pointed out, I was missing the Base sources.  As at some 
point, while fighting with the sysinstall menu system, the Base selection 
got un-selected.

I think I have them now, but have not yet re-tried a build or make.

 
 Regards,
 -- 
 -Chuck
 

Thanks.

Dave B.

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Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-08 Thread Dave
On 7 Jun 2011 at 15:23, Jerry wrote:

 On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 19:53:13 +0100
 Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk articulated:

  There is at the same time, not enough detailed info as to how to,
  and way too much detail of what there is.   The Man pages are good
  references, but lousy how to's...   (Sorry.)

 Many knowledgeable people consider man to simple be an acronym for,
 Much About Nothing. In any case, I assume you have read the
 documentation @: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html

 Perhaps you could list a few of the steps you have taken to a achieve
 your goal.

 --
 Jerry
 jerry+f...@seibercom.net

Hi.

I was, as I found later, following this...
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails-build.html

But it failed at step 2, with dont know how to make ...  Stop etc...

Dave B



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Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-08 Thread Dave
On 8 Jun 2011 at 0:53, Julian H. Stacey wrote:

  and AFIK have downloaded all the sys and ports 
  sources..   How do I confirm that, 
 
 cd /usr/src  
 make clean ; make cleandir ; make clean   # gets rid of obj
 du -s -k
  547684  .

cant cd to /usr/src/share/info
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /urs/src.
You have new mail.
(Contents of the mail is the usual sustem/security stuff)

I figure something else is missing, so didn't bother with anything else.

 Dave B


 
 find . -type d -print | wc
  47344734  119623
 
 cd /usr/ports
 du -s -k
  477244  .
 
 find . -type d -print | wc
 31883   31883  704477
 
 
  are there trace logs kept somewhere?
 
 Not that I'm aware of, but I dont use sysinstall beyond minimum
 installs, (I get my src/  ports/ from my cvs tree which is delivered
 by ctm from mail)
  cvs -Q -R export -r RELENG_8_2_0_RELEASE src   # du=548 M tgz=115 M
  cvs -Q -R export -r RELEASE_8_2_0  ports   # du=475 M tgz= 49 M
  cvs -Q -R export -r RELEASE_8_2_0  doc # du=100 M tgz= 27 M
 
 Cheers,
 Julian
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Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 08/06/2011 13:53, Dave wrote:
 As Andy and Kaya pointed out, I was missing the Base sources.  As at some 
 point, while fighting with the sysinstall menu system, the Base selection 
 got un-selected.

The best way to get along with sysinstall is not to use it.  Or use it
as little as possible.  Install a really minimal system, then reboot and
log into FreeBSD and do everything else from the system command line.

sysinstall is not a system administration tool, and attempting to use it
as such will lead to much needless suffering.

Now, you may be wondering exactly /how/ to do the stuff you want from
the command line.  The Handbook is a really very good reference for
that, or you can search the web or ask here.  Getting hold of the latest
system sources and compiling and installing FreeBSD from them is very
well covered, as are alternative binary-only methods for those who do
not want to spend time compiling.  (Mind you, if you hate running a
compiler, then FreeBSD is probably not for you: compile from source is
the 'succeed where all else fails' typical last resort solution to many
problems)

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-07 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Dave wrote:
 For whatever reason, I can't get my head round how Exactly to create 
 and use a jail, for a small webserver (Hiawatha) on FreeBSD V8.x

Did you start with the Handbook?

  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails-build.html

You might also consider sysutils/ezjail; see:

  http://erdgeist.org/arts/software/ezjail

[ ... ]
 I have (aledgedly) downloaded the Sys sources, and Ports.   At least it 
 sat there for ages after fumbling arround the sysinstall menu system 
 (whoever designed that should be forced to use it!  It's behaviour is 
 apalling, flitting from one context to another with no warning, in a way 
 such that you can't see what you've selected, without affecting the 
 selection, or something else..)
 
 Anyway, trying to follow various instructions I found, and those pointed 
 out to me by other helpful souls here (thanks Kaya and Peter.)  But 
 Whatever I do, I get a Don't know how to build world. Stop error.
 
 I am logged in as root, and AFIK have downloaded all the sys and ports 
 sources..   How do I confirm that, are there trace logs kept somewhere?

   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading.html
   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ports-using.html

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-07 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 19:53:13 +0100
Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk articulated:

 There is at the same time, not enough detailed info as to how to,
 and way too much detail of what there is.   The Man pages are good 
 references, but lousy how to's...   (Sorry.)

Many knowledgeable people consider man to simple be an acronym for,
Much About Nothing. In any case, I assume you have read the
documentation @: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html

Perhaps you could list a few of the steps you have taken to a achieve
your goal.

-- 
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Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-07 Thread Jack Raats


- Original Message - 
From: Dave d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk

To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:53 PM
Subject: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?



Hi All.

Total frustration here.  Before I incinerate the luckless box and get my 
coat.


For whatever reason, I can't get my head round how Exactly to create 
and use a jail, for a small webserver (Hiawatha) on FreeBSD V8.x


First compile the complete system. (kernel and world)
Then install ezjail form the ports

Then edit ezjail.conf in /usr/local/etc
enable ezjail in /etc/rc.conf

Then creating the base system:
ezjail-admin update -i
ezjail-admin update -P

after this you can create a jail using:

ezjail-admin create hostname.domain.net ip_address_of_jail

you can logon to your jail using:
ezjail-admin console hostname.domain.net

It's quite easy

Grtz
Jack





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RE: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-07 Thread a . smith

Hi Dave,

  I didn't find it total plain sailing myself when I did this for the  
first time a few months back.


Ok, so I think you are sitting in /usr/src trying to run the make  
buildworld right? If you are getting the error you mentioned then I  
think it means you are missing the Makefile? Ie if you do an ls there  
is no file called Makefile. In that case you need to install it,  
which if via sysinstall you need to go:


Configure
Distributions
src
base (this has the Makefile)

then select ok, and choose FTP etc etc,

If you have the other sources already then you should be good to go,

cheers Andy.



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RE: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-07 Thread Silva, Thiago Alexandre Vitorino Da
Bingo! Andy said all!!

Dave, is missing the base source in your box.
Consider use the handbook. I tried all how-to's that I've searched in Google, 
but only Handbook make my way to heaven.
EzJail is a tool that make vry easy manage the jails.

Regards / Atenciosamente,
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Sent: terça-feira, 7 de junho de 2011 18:05
To: d...@g8kbv.demon.co.uk
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

Hi Dave,

   I didn't find it total plain sailing myself when I did this for the
first time a few months back.

Ok, so I think you are sitting in /usr/src trying to run the make
buildworld right? If you are getting the error you mentioned then I
think it means you are missing the Makefile? Ie if you do an ls there
is no file called Makefile. In that case you need to install it,
which if via sysinstall you need to go:

Configure
Distributions
src
base (this has the Makefile)

then select ok, and choose FTP etc etc,

If you have the other sources already then you should be good to go,

cheers Andy.



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Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-07 Thread Kaya Saman

Hi guys,

just as I've been helping out already I did actually have this lot in my 
Wiki:


http://wiki.optiplex-networks.com/xwiki/bin/view/FreeBSD/Installing_FreeBSD

[quote]
Please take note however that the *Buildworld* environment needs to have 
*all sources* installed into the system in order to compile and build. 
This however should really only affect people who wish to use *FreeBSD 
Jails* as standard non-Jail configured systems will run fine with the 
default selection above.

[/quote


Which is exactly the same as Andy has just mentioned below.

The rest of the procedure then is pretty trivial

I think Dave is getting confused about how to use the sysintall software 
which I did at first too a few years back when I started with FreeBSD 
but now that I am used to it, I don't suffer any more.


The next release of FreeBSD won't have that any more from what I recall 
reading and will change to something else? - Correct me if wrong...



Regards,


--K


On 06/08/2011 12:05 AM, a.sm...@ukgrid.net wrote:

Hi Dave,

  I didn't find it total plain sailing myself when I did this for the 
first time a few months back.


Ok, so I think you are sitting in /usr/src trying to run the make 
buildworld right? If you are getting the error you mentioned then I 
think it means you are missing the Makefile? Ie if you do an ls there 
is no file called Makefile. In that case you need to install it, 
which if via sysinstall you need to go:


Configure
Distributions
src
base (this has the Makefile)

then select ok, and choose FTP etc etc,

If you have the other sources already then you should be good to go,

cheers Andy.



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Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-07 Thread Julian H. Stacey
 and AFIK have downloaded all the sys and ports 
 sources..   How do I confirm that, 

cd /usr/src  
make clean ; make cleandir ; make clean # gets rid of obj
du -s -k
547684  .

find . -type d -print | wc
47344734  119623

cd /usr/ports
du -s -k
477244  .

find . -type d -print | wc
   31883   31883  704477


 are there trace logs kept somewhere?

Not that I'm aware of, but I dont use sysinstall beyond minimum installs,
(I get my src/  ports/ from my cvs tree which is delivered by ctm from mail)
 cvs -Q -R export -r RELENG_8_2_0_RELEASE src   # du=548 M tgz=115 M
 cvs -Q -R export -r RELEASE_8_2_0  ports   # du=475 M tgz= 49 M
 cvs -Q -R export -r RELEASE_8_2_0  doc # du=100 M tgz= 27 M

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: Sorry. Numpty alert! FreeBSD Jails... Help?

2011-06-07 Thread Edward
On 6/8/11 2:53 AM, Dave wrote:
 Hi All.

[snip]
 What I have learnt so far, is that (for the most part) all the BSD's 
 behave and work much the same.  Unlike the hoards of different Linux's, 
 all with their different ways of doing things.

 Spleen vented, anyone want a challenge?  I promise not to shout at you...
Dave, in my experience, I've always refer to the Handbook
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html)
for setup of BSD  applications. Only if there's non, then proceed to
seek advice from Larry  Sergey.

You can find the following post to be helpful :
- FreeBSD OS setup :
http://scratching.psybermonkey.net/2009/08/freebsd-quick-install-guide-aka-how-to.html
- Jail setup :
http://scratching.psybermonkey.net/2010/06/freebsd-how-to-setup-configure-jail.html

Disclosure : the links posted up there are from my blog, except the
always trusted source, Handbook from FreeBSD.org.
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Re: Sorry state of the rsync based CVS,replication

2010-11-15 Thread Ken Smith
On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 12:13 +0100, Simon L. B. Nielsen wrote:
 There is nothing which prevents mirror sites from providing access to
 the CVS repo via rsync, even if they get it via CVSup...

I went ahead with adding this to ftp2.freebsd.org:

% rsync ftp2.freebsd.org::FreeBSD-CVS/
drwxr-xr-x 512 2010/08/02 13:35:40 .
drwxr-xr-x 512 2010/08/02 22:09:36 gnats
drwxr-xr-x 512 2010/08/03 02:34:06 mail
drwxr-xr-x 512 2010/08/02 21:50:04 ncvs
drwxr-xr-x 512 2010/08/03 00:51:26 www
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Re: Sorry state of the rsync based CVS,replication

2010-11-14 Thread Simon L. B. Nielsen

On 12 Nov 2010, at 09:47, Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote:

 Don't take this as flamebait, because I have no intention in starting a war 
 on this particular issue, but as good as cvsup is, this is unfortunately a 
 fairly isolated tool that, from my prospective (which is necessarily biaised 
 and incomplete), does not offer any feature compelling enough to prefer it 
 over rsync in our case. That position is by essence just a personal view, 
 applicable to me only and not to anybody else. Also I have to admit that now 
 that the m3 dependency is gone with csup, it becomes easier to return to it.

The issue is not to remove CVS via rsync - just to remove it from the FTP 
collection where it doesn't belong.

There is nothing which prevents mirror sites from providing access to the CVS 
repo via rsync, even if they get it via CVSup...

If it's useful (IE, any of the primary mirrors requests it) we can probably 
rather easily set up rsync access via cvsup-master. That said, I think rsync 
access is likely not too interesting for most master mirrors as they likely 
provide access to the repo via CVSup already, so they have cvsup installed 
already.

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Re: Sorry state of the rsync based CVS,replication

2010-11-12 Thread Patrick Bihan-Faou

Hi,

[...] Regarding the permission of the Attic subdirs in place

 The development/ section of the FTP site is something I hadn't looked


at before so it took me a little time to find what populates it and
investigate a little.  I *think* the issue with the Attic directories
not including world-read permissions was either an issue with a badly
formed chmod(1) done a long time ago or an issue with the mechanism
that populates that portion of the FTP site missing a umask setting
in the script that does it some time back in history (it's there now).
Not all of the Attic directories had the wrong permissions, it seemed
to stop some time in 2007.

I adjusted the permissions on ftp-master so hopefully this issue is
fixed.  However ...



Great news. I'll check various rsync source later and see if the 
situation improves.




We are moving to svn and svnsync for the freebsd source tree (and I am
happy with this), but the ports do not seem to be available using SVN
(or not in a documented way).

Can something be done to restore RSYNC mirroring of the CVS tree to a
working state ?

The FTP site desperately needs to go on a diet so we're poking around
to see if there is some stuff that can be dropped.  This section of
the site is a candidate for being removed.  As you say the ports are
not available in SVN but I'm curious why you use the content from the
FTP site instead of just using a CVSUP mirror.  Is there some benefit
to it?  We would sort of like to stop providing this as part of the
FTP site if there really isn't any benefit to it over using the
cvsup mirror infrastructure which won't be going away any time soon.



The benefit is organisational to us. We did use cvsup in the past but it 
has been a pain to maintain as all the other external sources we keep in 
sync with use rsync. That combined with the requirement for m3 etc. for 
the sole purpose of syncing the CVS tree when there are alternatives 
(rsync for the freebsd cvs tree and more recently svnsync) made the 
switch to rsync a no brainer (note that this decision was taken long 
before csup came to life).


Don't take this as flamebait, because I have no intention in starting a 
war on this particular issue, but as good as cvsup is, this is 
unfortunately a fairly isolated tool that, from my prospective (which is 
necessarily biaised and incomplete), does not offer any feature 
compelling enough to prefer it over rsync in our case. That position is 
by essence just a personal view, applicable to me only and not to 
anybody else. Also I have to admit that now that the m3 dependency is 
gone with csup, it becomes easier to return to it.


Now if the plan is to eliminate rsync CVS mirroring (and I am in no 
position to criticize such a decision that is very well justified in 
your mail), we will of course adapt and go to one of the supported 
methods for CVS tree mirroring. If this means cvsup only, then we will 
do it without any hard feeling. I already figured that we must be almost 
the only ones to use rsync for CVS tree mirroring (otherwise that issue 
would have been detected and fixed a long time ago), and I don't expect 
(nor demand) the project to maintain a service for just one user, this 
would be ridiculous and unreasonable.


Anyways, thank you very much for taking the time to look at this issue 
and hopefully having fixed it. This is really greatly appreciated.


Best regards,

Patrick.
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Re: Sorry state of the rsync based CVS,replication

2010-11-11 Thread Ken Smith
On Wed, 2010-10-27 at 14:45 +0200, Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote:

 We use FreeBSD extensively and keep a local mirror of the CVS 
 repository. Up until recently things where working properly with the 
 various servers listed in 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/mirrors-rsync.html, but sometime 
 during the summer ftp13.freebsd.org did not respond anymore and since 
 then rsync replication is broken.
 
 The main issue (besides the removal of ftp13.freebsd.org) is that most 
 rsync sources refuse to replicate the content of the .Attic directories 
 in the CVS tree. This means that performing a check-out on ports using a 
 tag usually won't work as some files will not be there anymore.
 
 Here are the typical logs I get using most rsync servers:
 
 rsync: opendir 
 /3/freebsd-core/development/FreeBSD-CVS/ports/chinese/pcmanx/files/Attic 
 (in vol) failed: Permission denied (13)
 
 At this moment the only rsync server that provides an adequate 
 replication of the CVS repository is ftp2.tw.FreeBSD.org.

As others have reported this was caused by the permissions on the
Attic directories not including world read permission.  For sites
where it was working it's actually an indication they're not following
best practices for a mirror site.  It's typically a bad idea to have
the thing that allows access to the content of the mirror site running
with the same credentials as what keeps the mirror site up to date.  We
don't use the 'feature' that allow for (pre-staging content that the
world shouldn't have access to for a period of time, allowing the mirror
sites to get fully populated before the release date) but I know of
other projects that do.  The ftp-master machines don't have that in
place because they're not public and they need to allow the blessed
mirrors access to everything (for the purposes of pre-staging, if we
were actually using that feature...).

The development/ section of the FTP site is something I hadn't looked
at before so it took me a little time to find what populates it and
investigate a little.  I *think* the issue with the Attic directories
not including world-read permissions was either an issue with a badly
formed chmod(1) done a long time ago or an issue with the mechanism
that populates that portion of the FTP site missing a umask setting
in the script that does it some time back in history (it's there now).
Not all of the Attic directories had the wrong permissions, it seemed
to stop some time in 2007.

I adjusted the permissions on ftp-master so hopefully this issue is
fixed.  However ...

 We are moving to svn and svnsync for the freebsd source tree (and I am 
 happy with this), but the ports do not seem to be available using SVN 
 (or not in a documented way).
 
 Can something be done to restore RSYNC mirroring of the CVS tree to a 
 working state ?

The FTP site desperately needs to go on a diet so we're poking around
to see if there is some stuff that can be dropped.  This section of
the site is a candidate for being removed.  As you say the ports are
not available in SVN but I'm curious why you use the content from the
FTP site instead of just using a CVSUP mirror.  Is there some benefit
to it?  We would sort of like to stop providing this as part of the
FTP site if there really isn't any benefit to it over using the
cvsup mirror infrastructure which won't be going away any time soon.

Thanks.

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Re: sorry, email program ate my subject: Can't compile MySQL 5.0 server on 7.2

2010-03-01 Thread Greg Larkin
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Len Conrad wrote:
 -- Original Message --
 From: Len Conrad lcon...@go2france.com
 Reply-To: lcon...@go2france.com
 Date:  Mon,  1 Mar 2010 19:04:58 +0100
 
 FreeBSD 7.2 as ESXi virtual machine

 after portsnap fetch update

 cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-server

 make configure

 make

 blah blah

 mv -f .deps/ha_example.Tpo .deps/ha_example.Po
 c++ -DEMBEDDED_LIBRARY -DMYSQL_SERVER  -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME=\/usr/local\ 
  -DMYSQL_DATADIR=\/var/db/mysql\  
 -DSHAREDIR=\/usr/local/share/mysql\ -I. -I../include -I../bdb/build_unix 
  -I../innobase/include -I../innobase/include   -I../include -I../include  
 -I../sql -I../sql  -I../sql/examples  -I../regex   -DDBUG_OFF -O2 
 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe  -fPIC 
 -felide-constructors -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions   -fno-implicit-templates 
 -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_COUNT=100 -MT ha_tina.o -MD 
 -MP -MF .deps/ha_tina.Tpo -c -o ha_tina.o ha_tina.cc
 mv -f .deps/ha_tina.Tpo .deps/ha_tina.Po
 c++ -DEMBEDDED_LIBRARY -DMYSQL_SERVER  -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME=\/usr/local\ 
  -DMYSQL_DATADIR=\/var/db/mysql\  
 -DSHAREDIR=\/usr/local/share/mysql\ -I. -I../include -I../bdb/build_unix 
  -I../innobase/include -I../innobase/include   -I../include -I../include  
 -I../sql -I../sql  -I../sql/examples  -I../regex   -DDBUG_OFF -O2 
 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe  -fPIC 
 -felide-constructors -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions   -fno-implicit-templates 
 -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_COUNT=100 -MT sql_yacc.o 
 -MD -MP -MF .deps/sql_yacc.Tpo -c -o sql_yacc.o sql_yacc.cc
 c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus)
 Please submit a full bug report.
 See URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html for instructions.
 *** Error code 1
 1 error
 *** Error code 1
 1 error
 *** Error code 1
 1 error
 *** Error code 2
 1 error
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-server.


 Thanks
 Len


Hi Len,

How much memory have you allocated to the VM?  This error indicates that
the compiler didn't have enough memory to compile that source file.
Also, check the output of this command:

sysctl -a | grep ^kern.maxd

I have a VM with 1.5 GB allocated to it, and I've added the following
line to /boot/loader.conf.local:

kern.maxdsize=1363148800

That gave me enough breathing room to use gcc (gcj, actually) to compile
some complex Java source files.

Hope that helps,
Greg
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Re: sorry, email program ate my subject: Can't compile MySQL 5.0server on 7.2

2010-03-01 Thread Len Conrad
-- Original Message --
From: Greg Larkin glar...@freebsd.org
Reply-To: glar...@freebsd.org
Date:  Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:46:54 -0500

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Len Conrad wrote:
 -- Original Message --
 From: Len Conrad lcon...@go2france.com
 Reply-To: lcon...@go2france.com
 Date:  Mon,  1 Mar 2010 19:04:58 +0100
 
 FreeBSD 7.2 as ESXi virtual machine

 after portsnap fetch update

 cd /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-server

 make configure

 make

 blah blah

 mv -f .deps/ha_example.Tpo .deps/ha_example.Po
 c++ -DEMBEDDED_LIBRARY -DMYSQL_SERVER  
 -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME=\/usr/local\  -DMYSQL_DATADIR=\/var/db/mysql\  
 -DSHAREDIR=\/usr/local/share/mysql\ -I. -I../include 
 -I../bdb/build_unix  -I../innobase/include -I../innobase/include   
 -I../include -I../include  -I../sql -I../sql  -I../sql/examples  -I../regex 
   -DDBUG_OFF -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -O2 
 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe  -fPIC -felide-constructors -fno-rtti 
 -fno-exceptions   -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti 
 -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_COUNT=100 -MT ha_tina.o -MD -MP -MF 
 .deps/ha_tina.Tpo -c -o ha_tina.o ha_tina.cc
 mv -f .deps/ha_tina.Tpo .deps/ha_tina.Po
 c++ -DEMBEDDED_LIBRARY -DMYSQL_SERVER  
 -DDEFAULT_MYSQL_HOME=\/usr/local\  -DMYSQL_DATADIR=\/var/db/mysql\  
 -DSHAREDIR=\/usr/local/share/mysql\ -I. -I../include 
 -I../bdb/build_unix  -I../innobase/include -I../innobase/include   
 -I../include -I../include  -I../sql -I../sql  -I../sql/examples  -I../regex 
   -DDBUG_OFF -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fPIC -O2 
 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe  -fPIC -felide-constructors -fno-rtti 
 -fno-exceptions   -fno-implicit-templates -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti 
 -DMYSQLD_NET_RETRY_COUNT=100 -MT sql_yacc.o -MD -MP -MF 
 .deps/sql_yacc.Tpo -c -o sql_yacc.o sql_yacc.cc
 c++: Internal error: Killed: 9 (program cc1plus)
 Please submit a full bug report.
 See URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html for instructions.
 *** Error code 1
 1 error
 *** Error code 1
 1 error
 *** Error code 1
 1 error
 *** Error code 2
 1 error
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/mysql50-server.


 Thanks
 Len


Hi Len,

How much memory have you allocated to the VM?  This error indicates that
the compiler didn't have enough memory to compile that source file.
Also, check the output of this command:

sysctl -a | grep ^kern.maxd

I have a VM with 1.5 GB allocated to it, and I've added the following
line to /boot/loader.conf.local:

kern.maxdsize=1363148800

That gave me enough breathing room to use gcc (gcj, actually) to compile
some complex Java source files.

Hope that helps,
Greg

thanks Greg, I though that might be a problem. from top:


Mem: 77M Active, 94M Inact, 57M Wired, 2956K Cache, 34M Buf, 7492K Free

I gave up on compile and did pkg_add -r.

thanks
Len





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Re: SORRY. NO SPACE IN lost+found DIRECTORY

2009-04-16 Thread Mehul Ved
Sorry, no contents in email.
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Re: Sorry - plaintext this time - Disk geometry and two OSes.

2008-08-05 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:02:52 -0700 (PDT)
Slick Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I let sysinstall change the disk geometry, will it  create
 problems for the files on 0 and the WinXP installation?

NO. You can safely do it. And if you don't like the fbsd bootloader you
can always change to another one. Your diskdata will be safe.

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Re: Sorry - plaintext this time - Disk geometry and two OSes.

2008-08-05 Thread Edward Ruggeri
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Slick Bo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've
 seen a few people on this mailing list say that disk geometry really
 doesn't matter that much, and the OS usually works fine despite
 apparent errors. But I'd prefer to be able to keep my windows installation.
 If I let sysinstall change the disk geometry, will it create problems
 for the files on 0 and the WinXP installation? If so, do you know of
 an alternate way to find the disk geometry, and should I directly give
 these results to sysinstall? Will that fix my problem?

This is something I've wondered about, but blithely ignored.

What does the warning really mean?  Why doesn't it matter?

-- Ned Ruggeri
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Re: Sorry for the old emails to this list

2006-05-31 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-05-30 19:09, Aaron Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just fixed my mail server, and it looks like it was waiting
 to push those forward :)

Heh!  That's ok, I guess.  It means you really fixed it :-)

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Re: sorry for the idiot question, but....

2005-08-11 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 01:07:47PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:07:20 +0200
 Stijn Hoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  There is a way to start gnome using the 'startx' method but I don't
  know it.
 
 echo gnome-session  ~/.xinitrc
 

Hm!  I was doing exec gnome-session; first I put this
is ~/.xsession; then ~/.xinitrc.  After several seconds'
(30 - 45) of thinking about it, wham! back to my root
screen.  Does ~/.xinitrc need to be 0755?

gary


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Re: sorry for the idiot question, but....

2005-08-11 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 03:04:43PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2005-08-10 09:07, Stijn Hoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There is a way to start gnome using the 'startx' method but I don't
  know it.
 
 1. Copy over /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc to ~/.xinitrc and make
sure it's executable by at least you, the owner of the file.
 
 2. Replace the final commands (that spawn a few useful programs) with:
 
   exec gnome-session
 
 3. Done
 

I should've read all responces evidently!  Giorgos, can 
I (dare I, can/should I) put my miscellanous commands into
.xinitrc, or are these simply ignored by the parser?
Also: can I use .xsession instead of .xinitrc?  --I have
several non-Gnome apps placed at various X+Y locations... 

great tips!

gary


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Vs: Re: sorry for the idiot question, bu

2005-08-11 Thread juha . vaskisuo

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Re: sorry for the idiot question, but....

2005-08-10 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 11:29:20PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
   Folks, 
 
   *Which* ports do I need to install to get Gnome and KDE
   working?  On my laptop (w/ omly 12G of disk) I may not have
   nough room; but on my main server I should have plenty.
 
   I have installed the x11/gnome2 and the x11/kde uberportscripts;
   no joy.  What gives?

Well that should be enough; I don't know about KDE but as for GNOME
you can simply turn on the knob

gdm_enable=YES

in /etc/rc.conf and then execute

/usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d/gdm.sh start

Note: only do this after you configured X to work right; GDM starts X
as part of a graphical login screen.

There is a way to start gnome using the 'startx' method but I don't
know it.

HTH,

--Stijn

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Re: sorry for the idiot question, but....

2005-08-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:07:20 +0200
Stijn Hoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is a way to start gnome using the 'startx' method but I don't
 know it.

echo gnome-session  ~/.xinitrc

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Re: sorry for the idiot question, but....

2005-08-10 Thread Nikolas Britton
On 8/10/05, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Folks,
 
 *Which* ports do I need to install to get Gnome and KDE
 working?  On my laptop (w/ omly 12G of disk) I may not have
 nough room; but on my main server I should have plenty.
 
 I have installed the x11/gnome2 and the x11/kde uberportscripts;
 no joy.  What gives?
 

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html
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Re: sorry for the idiot question, but....

2005-08-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-08-10 09:07, Stijn Hoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is a way to start gnome using the 'startx' method but I don't
 know it.

1. Copy over /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc to ~/.xinitrc and make
   sure it's executable by at least you, the owner of the file.

2. Replace the final commands (that spawn a few useful programs) with:

exec gnome-session

3. Done

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Re: sorry for the idiot question, but....

2005-08-10 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 09:07:20AM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 11:29:20PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  Folks, 
  
  *Which* ports do I need to install to get Gnome and KDE
  working?  On my laptop (w/ omly 12G of disk) I may not have
  nough room; but on my main server I should have plenty.
  
  I have installed the x11/gnome2 and the x11/kde uberportscripts;
  no joy.  What gives?
 
 Well that should be enough; I don't know about KDE but as for GNOME
 you can simply turn on the knob
 
 gdm_enable=YES
 
 in /etc/rc.conf and then execute
 
 /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d/gdm.sh start
 
 Note: only do this after you configured X to work right; GDM starts X
 as part of a graphical login screen.
 
 There is a way to start gnome using the 'startx' method but I don't
 know it.
 

I didn't know about the entry in rc.conf; thanks much!
Generally, I use xdm to get into X and ctwm.

Without exiting ctwm, I exec'd the gdm.sh script.
It looked like Gnome was going to work; then everything
died and I was back to my root login (no X).

I'll try gdm (from scratch!) and see what happens.  Thanks
for the clue.

gary


script is (probably) the Gnome equivalent.  Do I need
gdm rathr than xdm or will xdm let me 



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Re: sorry for the idiot question, but....

2005-08-10 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-08-10 13:06, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 03:04:43PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2005-08-10 09:07, Stijn Hoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  There is a way to start gnome using the 'startx' method but I don't
  know it.

 1. Copy over /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc to ~/.xinitrc and make
sure it's executable by at least you, the owner of the file.

 2. Replace the final commands (that spawn a few useful programs) with:

  exec gnome-session

 3. Done

 I should've read all responces evidently!  Giorgos, can I (dare I,
 can/should I) put my miscellanous commands into .xinitrc, or are these
 simply ignored by the parser?

The .xinitrc file is a shell script that is executed by startx.  All the
commands you put in there will be run, but watch out for one thing: you
are not allowed to start commands or programs that may block for any
amount of time.  The commands of the .xinitrc shell script are executed
by a /bin/sh instance in the order they appear, so if you use:

xterm
fluxbox

then fluxbox will only start *after* xterm finishes.

The solution to this minor problem is to start everything but the last
command in the background:

xterm 
fluxbox

To emphasize one more important aspect (that after the last command
exits, then the X session terminates too), I frequently prefix the last
command with exec, as in:

xterm 
exec fluxbox

just as a tip to myself that when the last command exits X will exit too.

 Also: can I use .xsession instead of .xinitrc?  --I have several
 non-Gnome apps placed at various X+Y locations...

The .xsession script is used by login managers, like XDM, GDM or KDM
instead of .xinitrc.  Only one of the two will run at any time.

- Giorgos

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Re: sorry for the idiot question, but....

2005-08-10 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 11:30:55PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2005-08-10 13:06, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 03:04:43PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
  On 2005-08-10 09:07, Stijn Hoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   There is a way to start gnome using the 'startx' method but I don't
   know it.
 
  1. Copy over /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc to ~/.xinitrc and make
 sure it's executable by at least you, the owner of the file.
 
  2. Replace the final commands (that spawn a few useful programs) with:
 
 exec gnome-session
 
  3. Done
 
  I should've read all responces evidently!  Giorgos, can I (dare I,
  can/should I) put my miscellanous commands into .xinitrc, or are these
  simply ignored by the parser?
 
 The .xinitrc file is a shell script that is executed by startx.  All the
 commands you put in there will be run, but watch out for one thing: you
 are not allowed to start commands or programs that may block for any
 amount of time.  The commands of the .xinitrc shell script are executed
 by a /bin/sh instance in the order they appear, so if you use:
 
   xterm
   fluxbox
 
 then fluxbox will only start *after* xterm finishes.
 
 The solution to this minor problem is to start everything but the last
 command in the background:
 
   xterm 
   fluxbox
 
 To emphasize one more important aspect (that after the last command
 exits, then the X session terminates too), I frequently prefix the last
 command with exec, as in:
 
   xterm 
   exec fluxbox
 
 just as a tip to myself that when the last command exits X will exit too.
 
  Also: can I use .xsession instead of .xinitrc?  --I have several
  non-Gnome apps placed at various X+Y locations...
 
 The .xsession script is used by login managers, like XDM, GDM or KDM
 instead of .xinitrc.  Only one of the two will run at any time.
 

Outstanding.

thanks,

gary


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Re: Sorry... newbie

2005-07-19 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Tuesday 19 July 2005 03:20 pm, Armando Richard wrote:
 Hope find at least 1 patient person to answer this...

 I'm used to operate well systems in Linux and Rwindows and trying
 from 2 days FreeBSD..

 I've very very very novice questions and couldn't find any help in
 literature i've been read (from more than a week). Also this is the
 forum looking more like...

 there is anybody who can give some directions??

 - for now my main doubt is in java virtual machine:

   -- sources links that points to nowhere.
   -- ports descriptions saying only about what i will get after.
   -- messages like that in my terminal:

 # cd '/usr/ports/java/jdk13'
 # ls
 Makefilefiles   pkg-message scripts
 distinfopkg-descr   pkg-plist
 # make
 printf: missing format character
 ===  jdk-1.3.1p9_4 is*** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
 # pkg_add jdk13
 pkg_add: can't stat package file 'jdk13'
 # pkg_add jdk-1.3
 pkg_add: can't stat package file 'jdk-1.3'
 # pkg_add jdk
 pkg_add: can't stat package file 'jdk'
 #

 or

 # pkg_add -r jdk
 Error: FTP Unable to get
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/Lat
est/jdk.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
 pkg_add: unable to fetch
 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/La
test/jdk.tbz' by URL
 # pkg_add -r jdk13
 Error: FTP Unable to get
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/Lat
est/jdk13.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
 pkg_add: unable to fetch
 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/La
test/jdk13.tbz' by URL
 #

   -- nothing about development kits and thousands of tools, just a
 simple plugin in my browser (mozilla, can be other if it isn't good)
 wich works.

 Sorry if i bore you, just loosed.. my last chance is here...

 tx

You're confusing the process of installing ports from binary packages 
vs. source code.  pkg_add is used to install binary packages.  Binary 
packages are not available for Java for FreeBSD 5*.  You'll have to 
build java from source code.  Since FreeBSD is not allowed to 
distribute the source code, you'll have to download the source code 
manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/.  Then go back to your ports 
directory and install the port:

 cd /usr/ports/java/jdk13/
 make install

If you haven't downloaded the source code, the installation process will 
stop and tell you where to get the appropriate files.

You can get more information regarding Java on FreeBSD from:
http://www.freebsd.org/java/

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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Re: Sorry... newbie

2005-07-19 Thread Danny Pansters
I'd like to add that though it takes (quite) long to build and install the jdk 
(and maybe if you're on a modem also downloading can take a while), it does 
work very well. I use it primarily with konqueror for applets and well it 
just works (with all the usual quirks as on linux -- say cut and paste...) 
and though not really rocketing it's fast enough. I'm pretty sure that server 
side it works a lot better (as it seems to do on every OS).

Dan

On Tuesday 19 July 2005 22:53, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
 On Tuesday 19 July 2005 03:20 pm, Armando Richard wrote:
  Hope find at least 1 patient person to answer this...
 
  I'm used to operate well systems in Linux and Rwindows and trying
  from 2 days FreeBSD..
 
  I've very very very novice questions and couldn't find any help in
  literature i've been read (from more than a week). Also this is the
  forum looking more like...
 
  there is anybody who can give some directions??
 
  - for now my main doubt is in java virtual machine:
 
  -- sources links that points to nowhere.
  -- ports descriptions saying only about what i will get after.
  -- messages like that in my terminal:
 
  # cd '/usr/ports/java/jdk13'
  # ls
  Makefilefiles   pkg-message scripts
  distinfopkg-descr   pkg-plist
  # make
  printf: missing format character
  ===  jdk-1.3.1p9_4 is*** Error code 1
 
  Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
  # pkg_add jdk13
  pkg_add: can't stat package file 'jdk13'
  # pkg_add jdk-1.3
  pkg_add: can't stat package file 'jdk-1.3'
  # pkg_add jdk
  pkg_add: can't stat package file 'jdk'
  #
 
  or
 
  # pkg_add -r jdk
  Error: FTP Unable to get
  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/Lat
 est/jdk.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
  pkg_add: unable to fetch
  'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/La
 test/jdk.tbz' by URL
  # pkg_add -r jdk13
  Error: FTP Unable to get
  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/Lat
 est/jdk13.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
  pkg_add: unable to fetch
  'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.4-release/La
 test/jdk13.tbz' by URL
  #
 
  -- nothing about development kits and thousands of tools, just a
  simple plugin in my browser (mozilla, can be other if it isn't good)
  wich works.
 
  Sorry if i bore you, just loosed.. my last chance is here...
 
  tx

 You're confusing the process of installing ports from binary packages
 vs. source code.  pkg_add is used to install binary packages.  Binary
 packages are not available for Java for FreeBSD 5*.  You'll have to
 build java from source code.  Since FreeBSD is not allowed to
 distribute the source code, you'll have to download the source code
 manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/.  Then go back to your ports
 directory and install the port:

  cd /usr/ports/java/jdk13/
  make install

 If you haven't downloaded the source code, the installation process will
 stop and tell you where to get the appropriate files.

 You can get more information regarding Java on FreeBSD from:
 http://www.freebsd.org/java/

 Best of luck,

 Andrew Gould
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Re: Sorry... newbie

2005-07-19 Thread Danny Pansters
Certainly, but complain to our friendly solarian friends over at Sun about all 
this :) Hi Bill. I'm sure they don't mean bad towards us, but, yeah, this is 
how it works out right now.

Regards,

Dan 

On Wednesday 20 July 2005 02:10, you wrote:
 in time..

 1,1Mb + 47Mb + 40Mb ...

 build a linux binary to make a linux binary to make a FreeBSD binary to
 extract a less than 1Mb javapluginoji.so to put in my browser's plugin
 folder..

 :) so much licenses...

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Re: Sorry for the newbie questions :(

2004-12-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 12:30:27AM -0600, Eric Schuele wrote:
 Kris Kennaway wrote:
 
 I read a lot about cvsup and other stuff, but it seems very confusing to 
 me. I cannot understand the whole picture.
 My question is: how can i import a *single* port ?
 
 
 You cannot do this safely, because how do you know which other single
 ports must also be updated along with it in order for it to be
 buildable?
 
 I'm relatively new so please bear with me
 
 I have installed 5.3-RELEASE ... and did a 'make install clean' for all 
 ports of interest.  Then firefox and thunderbird (for example) came out 
 with v1.0.  So I did a 'make deinstall clean' for each.  Downloaded the 
 newest version of the contents of those directories from freebsd.org 
 (using browser b4 I deinstalled and placed in temp dir) and copied it in 
 there myself.  The did a 'make install clean' for each.  But... given 
 your comments above... am I headed for disaster down the road if I 
 continue to 'upgrade' ports in this fasion?

Sooner or later you'll run into problems unless you're very careful.
e.g. the next firefox version might depend on a new version of the
libfoo port, so you'd better download the new version of that port
before you try and rebuild firefox.  This quickly becomes
unmananageable to do by hand.  It's also very hard to keep up with
patches for bugs and security vulnerabilities if you have to remember
to download dozens of ports again just in case they've changed.

Kris



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Re: Sorry to bother you ,but...

2004-12-08 Thread CHris Rich
 Peter has managed to get it compiled on FreeBSd5.3,
 however when run a yabasic demo program that uses
 GTK-Server, I get an error message that library
 nss_dns.so.1 is missing.
 
 I have searched the ports tree and found references
 to this in files in these locations...
 
 eshop1# grep -r -i nss_dns /usr/ports/*
 /usr/ports/devel/linux_devtools-6/pkg-plist.alpha:usr/lib/libnss_dns.so
 /usr/ports/devel/linux_devtools-6/pkg-plist.i386:usr/lib/libnss_dns.so
 /usr/ports/devel/linuxthreads/files/patch-aa:-otherlibs +=
 $(nssobjdir)/libnss_files.ans.a \
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/pkg-plist.alpha:lib/libnss_dns-2.2.4.so
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/pkg-plist.alpha:lib/libnss_dns.so.1.1
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/pkg-plist.alpha:lib/libnss_dns.so.2
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/pkg-plist.i386:lib/libnss_dns-2.2.4.so
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/pkg-plist.i386:lib/libnss_dns.so.1
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/pkg-plist.i386:lib/libnss_dns.so.2
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-6/pkg-plist.alpha:lib/libnss_dns-2.1.3.so
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-6/pkg-plist.alpha:lib/libnss_dns.so.1.1
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-6/pkg-plist.alpha:lib/libnss_dns.so.2
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-6/pkg-plist.i386:lib/libnss_dns-2.1.3.so
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-6/pkg-plist.i386:lib/libnss_dns.so.1
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-6/pkg-plist.i386:lib/libnss_dns.so.2
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-debian/pkg-plist:lib/libnss_dns-2.2.5.so
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-debian/pkg-plist:lib/libnss_dns.so.2
 
 I am not enough of an expert or guru to know how to get this
 library installed , or even if it should be installed on a
 FBSD5.3 system.
 
I am not an expert, and this may be obvious and it may not be
completelybut seeing as it appears to be using the linux
compability have you checked the man pages for linprocfs? if not maybe
that would be a direction to consider...
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Re: Sorry to bother you ,but...

2004-12-08 Thread pete wright
 Peter has managed to get it compiled on FreeBSd5.3,
 however when run a yabasic demo program that uses
 GTK-Server, I get an error message that library
 nss_dns.so.1 is missing.
 
 I have searched the ports tree and found references
 to this in files in these locations...
 
 eshop1# grep -r -i nss_dns /usr/ports/*
 /usr/ports/devel/linux_devtools-6/pkg-plist.alpha:usr/lib/libnss_dns.so
 /usr/ports/devel/linux_devtools-6/pkg-plist.i386:usr/lib/libnss_dns.so
 /usr/ports/devel/linuxthreads/files/patch-aa:-otherlibs +=
 $(nssobjdir)/libnss_files.ans.a \
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/pkg-plist.alpha:lib/libnss_dns-2.2.4.so
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/pkg-plist.alpha:lib/libnss_dns.so.1.1
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/pkg-plist.alpha:lib/libnss_dns.so.2
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/pkg-plist.i386:lib/libnss_dns-2.2.4.so
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/pkg-plist.i386:lib/libnss_dns.so.1
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/pkg-plist.i386:lib/libnss_dns.so.2
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-6/pkg-plist.alpha:lib/libnss_dns-2.1.3.so
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-6/pkg-plist.alpha:lib/libnss_dns.so.1.1
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-6/pkg-plist.alpha:lib/libnss_dns.so.2
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-6/pkg-plist.i386:lib/libnss_dns-2.1.3.so
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-6/pkg-plist.i386:lib/libnss_dns.so.1
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-6/pkg-plist.i386:lib/libnss_dns.so.2
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-debian/pkg-plist:lib/libnss_dns-2.2.5.so
 /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-debian/pkg-plist:lib/libnss_dns.so.2
 

looks like the library maybe installed if you install the 

 /usr/ports/devel/linux_devtools-6/

port.  have you tried that?  there also may be a FreeBSD specific
library that provides this same functionality, altho i do not know
what it is off the top of my head.  it seems a little odd that this
application would require some linux specific stuff tho...


-p

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Re: Sorry for the newbie questions :(

2004-12-08 Thread Eric Schuele
Kris Kennaway wrote:
I read a lot about cvsup and other stuff, but it seems very confusing to 
me. I cannot understand the whole picture.
My question is: how can i import a *single* port ?

You cannot do this safely, because how do you know which other single
ports must also be updated along with it in order for it to be
buildable?
I'm relatively new so please bear with me
I have installed 5.3-RELEASE ... and did a 'make install clean' for all 
ports of interest.  Then firefox and thunderbird (for example) came out 
with v1.0.  So I did a 'make deinstall clean' for each.  Downloaded the 
newest version of the contents of those directories from freebsd.org 
(using browser b4 I deinstalled and placed in temp dir) and copied it in 
there myself.  The did a 'make install clean' for each.  But... given 
your comments above... am I headed for disaster down the road if I 
continue to 'upgrade' ports in this fasion?

Thanks,
--
Regards,
Eric
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Re: Sorry for the newbie questions :(

2004-12-07 Thread Alec Berryman
begin  quotation of Mário Gamito on 2004-12-07 23:59:33 +:

 1. I've instaled FreeBSD 5.3 and compiled portaudit as the first port.
 Portaudit didn't allow me to install apache13-modssl because there is a 
 security problem with the port that comes in the CD.
 How can i then install apache13-modssl ?

cvsup your ports tree.

 2. I want to install PostgreSQL 8.
 The port version that is on the CD is 8 beta2, but i see in 
 www.freebsd.org that there is already a port for 8 beta4.
 How can i import this new port ?

cvsup your ports tree.

 I read a lot about cvsup and other stuff, but it seems very confusing to 
 me. I cannot understand the whole picture.
 My question is: how can i import a *single* port ?

Common practice is to cvsup most of the ports tree.  The example cvsup
documents how to exclude subdirectories of ports you're not going to
use (for example, all ports of a different language).  If you just
want to import a single port, you could either refine your cvsup file
so as to only grab that port, or you could browse the CVS repository
via the web and grab the appropriate files to place in your ports
tree.

You should, however, probably just cvsup your ports tree.  The example
cvsup file is your friend, as is the Handbook section on CVSup.

 3. Where can i find information about supported hardware ?
 Namely SATA controlers ?
 Does FreeBSD suport the Intel ones ?

Look in the Handbook.


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Re: Sorry for the newbie questions :(

2004-12-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 11:59:33PM +, M?rio Gamito wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I swear i did my home work before addressing to you, but i didn't 
 understood well what i want.
 
 1. I've instaled FreeBSD 5.3 and compiled portaudit as the first port.
 Portaudit didn't allow me to install apache13-modssl because there is a 
 security problem with the port that comes in the CD.
 How can i then install apache13-modssl ?

Uninstall portaudit, or (per the manpage), set DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES

 2. I want to install PostgreSQL 8.
 The port version that is on the CD is 8 beta2, but i see in 
 www.freebsd.org that there is already a port for 8 beta4.
 How can i import this new port ?
 
 I read a lot about cvsup and other stuff, but it seems very confusing to 
 me. I cannot understand the whole picture.
 My question is: how can i import a *single* port ?

You cannot do this safely, because how do you know which other single
ports must also be updated along with it in order for it to be
buildable?

 3. Where can i find information about supported hardware ?
 Namely SATA controlers ?
 Does FreeBSD suport the Intel ones ?

Start with the release notes for your target version.

Kris

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Re: Sorry for the newbie questions :(

2004-12-07 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Hi,
 
 I swear i did my home work before addressing to you, but i didn't 
 understood well what i want.
 
 2. I want to install PostgreSQL 8.
 The port version that is on the CD is 8 beta2, but i see in 
 www.freebsd.org that there is already a port for 8 beta4.
 How can i import this new port ?
 
 I read a lot about cvsup and other stuff, but it seems very confusing to 
 me. I cannot understand the whole picture.
 My question is: how can i import a *single* port ?

Maybe what you are missing is that when you install the whole ports
tree, what you are installing are not the ports, but the framework
and instructions for downloading and installing the ports.

You must install (and possibly update) your ports tree in its entirety.
Then you cd in to the appropriate ports directory 
such as in  /usr/ports/databases/postgresql72/  for example
and then do a 'make' and a 'make install'
It will then download what you need for that port and install it
and also install all the other ports that it depends on as well.

You may have to study a bit to figure out which exact port version
you want to cd in to, for example, I have never installed postgresql
so probably /postgresql72/ is not actually the port you want.
Also, I was looking through a somewhat older version of the ports on
this machine and it doesn't have postgresql V-8 yet.  I need to update it.
This is just an example.  It will probably be something more 
like:   /usr/ports/databases/postgresql8/

Anyway, by doing this you are installing just the 'single' port you want.
But you really really really want to install the entire /usr/ports tree 
or you will be missing some of the framework and dependancies that you 
will need. 

 
 3. Where can i find information about supported hardware ?
 Namely SATA controlers ?
 Does FreeBSD suport the Intel ones ?

On the main FreeBSD page (http://www.freebsd.org/) over on the right it 
lists the versions that are now considered the latest releases available.   
Under each there is a hardware item.   Click on it and follow links to 
find what you want.   If you are using an Intel PC type machine, then
select i386 for hardware type when you get to that list.

 
 Sorry, for my newbiness :(

Newbies are just beginning experts.

jerry

 
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Re: Sorry

2004-10-29 Thread Subhro
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:24:39 +0200, Jaime Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hee hee, one is a devil armed with a big pitchfork,
 and the other a helpless penguin.  

Its not a devil, its a daemon :D

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RE: Sorry

2004-10-28 Thread Jaime Moss
Thanks to everybody for the information shared.

I have much reading to do but at least its in the right direction

Kind regards

Jaime Moss



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Jaime Moss wrote:

I am looking at non Microsoft platforms for a mail server.

Does FreeBSD have one in it ?

I will also be looking at Linux.

What is the differnce between FreeBSD and Linux?

Kind regards

Jaime Moss
  


Hee hee, one is a devil armed with a big pitchfork,
and the other a helpless penguin.  So FreeBSD wins
every time.

Jokes? aside, you've been told some good stuff.  One more
hopefully-soon-to-be-canonical piece I like, although it may
not click with you if you're not familiar with either Linux or *BSD,
is Matt Fuller's rant at:

http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php

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Re: Sorry

2004-10-27 Thread Mark Frasa
On 2004.10.27 12:18:03 +, Jaime Moss wrote:
 I am looking at non Microsoft platforms for a mail server.
 
 Does FreeBSD have one in it ?
 
 I will also be looking at Linux.
 
 What is the differnce between FreeBSD and Linux?
 
 Kind regards
 
 Jaime Moss

Freebsd has one: Sendmail, and optionally you can install others like:

- Postfix (sendmail based)
- Exim

For the differences of linux-freebsd take a look:
http://librenix.com/?inode=3871

Mark.

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Re: Sorry

2004-10-27 Thread Henry Miller

On 10/27/2004 at 12:18 Jaime Moss wrote:

I am looking at non Microsoft platforms for a mail server.

Does FreeBSD have one in it ?

sendmail is included, though mostly because it always has been
included, not because we feel it is any good.   Postfix, exim, and
qmail are in ports in case you want a different once.  There may be
more.  (sendmail is hard to configure, and historiclly has been the
injection point of many root cracks.   Many people regard it as
unfixable.  How true any of this is can be debated)   I have no opinion
on which is best.   All have their advocates.  Each has advantages and
disadvantages.  

You will have to decide which is better for you.

I will also be looking at Linux.

What is the differnce between FreeBSD and Linux?

Short answer: not much.   Both a really good, free operating systems.
Either will run your mail server just fine, in fact all the software I
listed above will run on either.   It is rare to find something that
runs on linux that cannot be made to run on FreeBSD with little work. 

Long answer:   ask on the advocacy lists.  Saying anything more is
off-topic for this list, because most answers come down to personal
preference.  Often any discussion soon starts to sound like Catholics
and Lutherans arguing over religion, so be careful about asking this
question.

Note however that linux comes from many different distributions, which
affects the differences.

A short (incomplete) list of things that often come up when this
question is asked:  License,.   Fragmentation,  Hardware support,
Quality of source code, Which algorithm is used in a particular place,
Installers, How your configure it, and  How you install programs.   

You get to decide for yourself.  Unlike religions, you are not assigned
a place in Hell for picking wrong.



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Re: Sorry

2004-10-27 Thread Erik Norgaard
Jaime Moss wrote:

 What is the differnce between FreeBSD and Linux?

The differences really only matters if you are using one system and want
to change, they are mostly neuances in everyday use.

You can run all the mentioned mailservers equally well on both FreeBSD
and Linux, same configuration files. Migrating from Linux to FreeBSD I
only had to reformat the password file as Linux' shadow-file is slightly
different format from FreeBSD master.passwd.

I think the most clear difference, which will be important to you is the
way you _maintain_ the systems:

On Linux the normal administrator will often be installing binary
packages using rpm - Gentoo and Debian have other ways to handle this.
On *BSD the usual way is to use the ports tree and compile from source.

Mostly it is a matter of personal taste, which system is for you, how
you like to do things and how you work. I came from RedHat linux and
have found I spend less time maintaining my systems with FreeBSD - but
this just my subjective feeling.

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Re: Sorry

2004-10-27 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 12:18:03PM +0200, Jaime Moss wrote:
 I am looking at non Microsoft platforms for a mail server.
 
 Does FreeBSD have one in it ?

Yes, sendmail.  There are also dozens of other mail servers in the
ports collection.

 I will also be looking at Linux.
 
 What is the differnce between FreeBSD and Linux?

They're different :) Seriously, this is a FAQ, and you should check
the archives for extensive discussion of this topic.

Kris

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Re: Sorry

2004-10-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I am looking at non Microsoft platforms for a mail server.
 
 Does FreeBSD have one in it ?

Yes, FreeBSd has about everything you would want and several
alternatives for each.   Sendmail is the long time workhorse of
the Email agents.   It gets some abuse because of its arcane
configuration syntax, but it works reliably and hasn't seen any
serious problem in quite a long while.   There are also several 
alternatives to sendmail available in the ports.  

In addition to Email, FreeBSD has support for every type of network
activity.   There are web servers, DNS, DHCP, Radius, etc, etc.

 
 I will also be looking at Linux.
 
 What is the differnce between FreeBSD and Linux?

Mostly, FreeBSD is more consistent throughout and its development
is better managed.   Thus it is a little more easily maintained,
somewhat more secure and a more comfortable platform to run as a server.

In terms of features, most often sited are FreeBSDs maintainability, 
security and ports system for 3rd party software and LINUX' heavier
use of GUI stuff (which I find, gets in the way of running a server).

jerry

 
 Kind regards
 
 Jaime Moss
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Re: Sorry

2004-10-27 Thread W. D.
At 04:18 10/27/2004, Jaime Moss wrote:
I am looking at non Microsoft platforms for a mail server.

Does FreeBSD have one in it ?

Yes.  I use qmail--it's very good with high volume.


I will also be looking at Linux.

What is the differnce between FreeBSD and Linux?

They are both good operating systems.  Many people prefer
FreeBSD because of the ease of installing and maintaining
software via the 'Ports' system.

More in depth explantions via links are on my FreeBSD Install
page:
http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Install/

Also on that page is a link to Mail-Archive.com where
you can search the FreeBSD archives:
http://www.Mail-Archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/

Welcome to FreeBSD--no reason to be sorry!  ;^)



Kind regards

Jaime Moss
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Re: Sorry

2004-10-27 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Jaime Moss wrote:
I am looking at non Microsoft platforms for a mail server.
Does FreeBSD have one in it ?
I will also be looking at Linux.
What is the differnce between FreeBSD and Linux?
Kind regards
Jaime Moss
 

Hee hee, one is a devil armed with a big pitchfork,
and the other a helpless penguin.  So FreeBSD wins
every time.
Jokes? aside, you've been told some good stuff.  One more
hopefully-soon-to-be-canonical piece I like, although it may
not click with you if you're not familiar with either Linux or *BSD,
is Matt Fuller's rant at:
http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php
Kevin Kinsey
DaleCo, S.P.
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Re: Sorry--I'm Newbie - Best way to add php4

2004-07-31 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Bob Kukla wrote:
Previous message had no subject,,, sorry for that
 

We are all newbies ... some are older newbies ...
Even the oldies know that they're just newbies
with experience ... ;-)
Hi,
I am very new to BSD and web servers and have just recently installed the latest 5.2 
version. I have installed Apache 1.3 from the FreeBSD ftp site and have added mod_dav 
successfully.  The web server and webDAV are working fine. I now want to add php4 and 
mySQL capabilities. I have read some of the latest mail and am confused as to how to 
best go about it.  I have never used php or mySQL before nor have I had it installed 
on a web server. What packages and in what sequence , if any, should I install ?  
Also,  what does the number 20020429 at the end (/usr/local/lib/php/20020429 )  
signify?  Thanks in advance for your help!
Bob Kukla
 

I've no experience with mod_dav (in fact I just got done looking
it up at google), so I can't say whether it will be affected, or not
(I would suspect not, I tend to be an optimist) but:
[Read the lower section about MySQL before you
do any installation ...]
I generally just go to /usr/ports/lang/php4 and type
make install clean as root.  This gets me mod_php4,
the PHP CLI, it even builds a CGI you can move to your
cgi dir if you desire/need to.  If it's your first time, then
expect to go through a ncurses-based dialog (remember
sysinstall?) where you will choose PHP extensions to be
built.
After that, it's a matter of the appropriate modifications
to httpd.conf.  I'd sure recommend that you cruise over
to www.php.net and check out their documentation: it's
well done, and they've some install cheat sheets for almost
every variety of OS/webserver on the planet (well, many of them,
like I said, I'm optimistic...)
MySQL is similar.  IIRC, it may be best to get MySQL going
first.
Like I said, the docs at php.net are good.  I also like the
boards at www.phpbuilder.com for PHP help and community
HTH,
Kevin Kinsey
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Re: Sorry: HP Omnibook 4150 hangs on boot 4.6.2

2003-09-03 Thread Lowell Gilbert
I've had problems with a different Omnibook model hanging while probing
AGP.  The AGP support was added around then, so this might be your
problem too.  The way I got around it was by loading on an earlier
release and updating from source (but not including 'device agp' in my
kernel config, naturally).

I haven't submitted a problem report because I can't prove that anyone
else has the same problem, and after all my hardware *could* be dodgy.
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Re: Sorry for HTML

2002-07-21 Thread John Mills

Kevin -

On Sun, 21 Jul 2002, Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

 I'm going to have to put together a
 box hefty enough to run FBSD with
 X

My low-end box was unusable when XFree installed contemporary window
managers (KDE in this case), but became quite responsive and usable when I
dropped back to 'fvwm2': _much_ lighter weight, and it shows. You might
consider such a work-around.

I also sawsome notes to the effect that a certain amount of
KDE-compatibility had been grafted onto the current 'fvwm[2?]', but I
haven't tested this.

 - John Mills


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