Re: anybody onlist know about KVM stuff?
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 04:13:17PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 06:37:36AM -0500, Depo Catcher wrote: On 8/20/2010 7:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:45:11PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Gary Klinekl...@thought.org wrote: of my three tower cases still linked by wires so i can click-over to each and use my one screen and keyboard, my server [ethic|ns1.thought.org] has a bad wire to my keyboard. so i really cannot do much on ethic. i've crawled down under 8 or 9 times and messed with various wires. that was extremely hard as fruitless. (things were|everything WAS) working fine until i added my battery backup. the guy who helped me with that 700-pound beast must have gotten something mixed up. because of his age (70's) and fraility i don't want to ask him to crawl around under there (c). the two boxes that are working are impossible for me to pull out and look at. hopefully there are a couple freebsd types who rely on kvm wires to do serious work and can give me some clues. /usr/ports/sysutils/synergy this looks very interesting, thank you. the catch is that it depends on X. i don't have X installed on the server. . ssh? sure. for simple things. but i need to get X going to get my UPS set up. also, to properly upgrade things. i was upgrading via ssh and something broke. it took an hour of messing around to get ethic back up, fsck'd , and mail working. You just said two things that seem to contradict each other. You said you need to get X going to get the UPS set up, but earlier you said you don't have X installed on the server? Why would you need X to properly upgrade things? The upgrading of both the OS and ports works primarily with command-line tools. Do you realize that you can make more than one ssh connection to a server in case you want e.g. one shell to make run programs in and another to keep an eye on things. If you don't have X set up on the server, you should use ssh (or telnet if you have a trusted network). If you do have X set up on the server, you can use the net/vnc port to view the server's X11 screen on another machine. And ssh can also do X forwarding. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp3u7ooGNKHY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: anybody onlist know about KVM stuff?
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 01:29:42PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: no X11, but i do need it. is there a way of getting, say, [c]twm configured remotely? I don't think you have to. You just have to tell the X programs you want to run on the server to connect to the X server on the machine you're working on. Read the following HOWTO: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Remote-X-Apps.html Suppose you are working on a machine called desktop.thought.org, and the server is server.thought.org. You have to set up the X server on desktop.thought.org to accept remote connections using xhost(1) or xauth(1). You have to configure your firewall on desktop of allow connections on tcp/udp ports 6000-6063 from server.thought.org through. Then you should be able to login to the server via ssh, and start e.g. an X terminal on the display of the desktop by giving the following command in the ssh session: xterm -display desktop.thought.org:0 You could also set the DISPLAY variable on server.thought.org to point to desktop.thought.org:0. That way you don't have to start every X program with the -display argument. i managed to have portupgrade finish succesfuully last night without breaking anything. there were 33 things that failed, 0 skipped, and More than 450 ports successfully upgraded. i checked with pkgdb -Favf; it worked. what failed was related to the x11 drivers. AFAIK, you don't need the drivers to do X forwarding. But you _do_ need the X11 libraries and header files to compile X programs. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgp8tFDJgJzD5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: anybody onlist know about KVM stuff?
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:34:46AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 04:13:17PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 06:37:36AM -0500, Depo Catcher wrote: On 8/20/2010 7:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:45:11PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Gary Klinekl...@thought.org wrote: of my three tower cases still linked by wires so i can click-over to each and use my one screen and keyboard, my server [ethic|ns1.thought.org] has a bad wire to my keyboard. so i really cannot do much on ethic. i've crawled down under 8 or 9 times and messed with various wires. that was extremely hard as fruitless. (things were|everything WAS) working fine until i added my battery backup. the guy who helped me with that 700-pound beast must have gotten something mixed up. because of his age (70's) and fraility i don't want to ask him to crawl around under there (c). the two boxes that are working are impossible for me to pull out and look at. hopefully there are a couple freebsd types who rely on kvm wires to do serious work and can give me some clues. /usr/ports/sysutils/synergy this looks very interesting, thank you. the catch is that it depends on X. i don't have X installed on the server. . ssh? sure. for simple things. but i need to get X going to get my UPS set up. also, to properly upgrade things. i was upgrading via ssh and something broke. it took an hour of messing around to get ethic back up, fsck'd , and mail working. You just said two things that seem to contradict each other. You said you need to get X going to get the UPS set up, but earlier you said you don't have X installed on the server? Why would you need X to properly upgrade things? The upgrading of both the OS and ports works primarily with command-line tools. Do you realize that you can make more than one ssh connection to a server in case you want e.g. one shell to make run programs in and another to keep an eye on things. If you don't have X set up on the server, you should use ssh (or telnet if you have a trusted network). If you do have X set up on the server, you can use the net/vnc port to view the server's X11 screen on another machine. And ssh can also do X forwarding. no X11, but i do need it. is there a way of getting, say, [c]twm configured remotely? i managed to have portupgrade finish succesfuully last night without breaking anything. there were 33 things that failed, 0 skipped, and More than 450 ports successfully upgraded. i checked with pkgdb -Favf; it worked. what failed was related to the x11 drivers. the machine is a 2009 dell 550 inspiron. i do not want to do too much with X so as to avoid some kind of crash that will break everything. still, it would be nice to have X for /root and for the UPS. the server and telco modem is my connection to the outside world so i don't want to take too many risks. but now that everything is up to date [port-wise], now what? gary Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: anybody onlist know about KVM stuff?
On 8/20/2010 7:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:45:11PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Gary Klinekl...@thought.org wrote: of my three tower cases still linked by wires so i can click-over to each and use my one screen and keyboard, my server [ethic|ns1.thought.org] has a bad wire to my keyboard. so i really cannot do much on ethic. i've crawled down under 8 or 9 times and messed with various wires. that was extremely hard as fruitless. (things were|everything WAS) working fine until i added my battery backup. the guy who helped me with that 700-pound beast must have gotten something mixed up. because of his age (70's) and fraility i don't want to ask him to crawl around under there (c). the two boxes that are working are impossible for me to pull out and look at. hopefully there are a couple freebsd types who rely on kvm wires to do serious work and can give me some clues. /usr/ports/sysutils/synergy -- Adam Vande More this looks very interesting, thank you. the catch is that it depends on X. i don't have X installed on the server. . ssh? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: anybody onlist know about KVM stuff?
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 06:37:36AM -0500, Depo Catcher wrote: On 8/20/2010 7:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:45:11PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Gary Klinekl...@thought.org wrote: of my three tower cases still linked by wires so i can click-over to each and use my one screen and keyboard, my server [ethic|ns1.thought.org] has a bad wire to my keyboard. so i really cannot do much on ethic. i've crawled down under 8 or 9 times and messed with various wires. that was extremely hard as fruitless. (things were|everything WAS) working fine until i added my battery backup. the guy who helped me with that 700-pound beast must have gotten something mixed up. because of his age (70's) and fraility i don't want to ask him to crawl around under there (c). the two boxes that are working are impossible for me to pull out and look at. hopefully there are a couple freebsd types who rely on kvm wires to do serious work and can give me some clues. /usr/ports/sysutils/synergy -- Adam Vande More this looks very interesting, thank you. the catch is that it depends on X. i don't have X installed on the server. . ssh? sure. for simple things. but i need to get X going to get my UPS set up. also, to properly upgrade things. i was upgrading via ssh and something broke. it took an hour of messing around to get ethic back up, fsck'd , and mail working. -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: anybody onlist know about KVM stuff?
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: of my three tower cases still linked by wires so i can click-over to each and use my one screen and keyboard, my server [ethic|ns1.thought.org] has a bad wire to my keyboard. so i really cannot do much on ethic. i've crawled down under 8 or 9 times and messed with various wires. that was extremely hard as fruitless. (things were|everything WAS) working fine until i added my battery backup. the guy who helped me with that 700-pound beast must have gotten something mixed up. because of his age (70's) and fraility i don't want to ask him to crawl around under there (c). the two boxes that are working are impossible for me to pull out and look at. hopefully there are a couple freebsd types who rely on kvm wires to do serious work and can give me some clues. /usr/ports/sysutils/synergy -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: anybody onlist know about KVM stuff?
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:45:11PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: of my three tower cases still linked by wires so i can click-over to each and use my one screen and keyboard, my server [ethic|ns1.thought.org] has a bad wire to my keyboard. so i really cannot do much on ethic. i've crawled down under 8 or 9 times and messed with various wires. that was extremely hard as fruitless. (things were|everything WAS) working fine until i added my battery backup. the guy who helped me with that 700-pound beast must have gotten something mixed up. because of his age (70's) and fraility i don't want to ask him to crawl around under there (c). the two boxes that are working are impossible for me to pull out and look at. hopefully there are a couple freebsd types who rely on kvm wires to do serious work and can give me some clues. /usr/ports/sysutils/synergy -- Adam Vande More this looks very interesting, thank you. the catch is that it depends on X. i don't have X installed on the server. . -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
