Re: freebsd is really bsd?

2011-12-14 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:55:14 -0500
Sean Cavanaugh millenia2...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 The best explanation I have ever seen to give people fresh to the BSD
 project is the following youtube clip from years ago. It traces all
 the way back to its origins and gives nice examples of some of the
 small companies that use BSD derived code in their programs.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7tvI6JCXD0feature=relmfu

Thanks for providing that link; I really enjoyed watching it.  :-)

To everyone else: if you're interested in the history of BSD, with a
lighthearted, humorous and entertaining presentation, check out the
above.  Fun stuff!  A lot of similarly entertaining and interesting
links will turn up in the process as well.

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Re: freebsd is really bsd?

2011-12-14 Thread LinuxIsOne
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net wrote:

 To everyone else: if you're interested in the history of BSD, with a
 lighthearted, humorous and entertaining presentation, check out the
 above.  Fun stuff!  A lot of similarly entertaining and interesting
 links will turn up in the process as well.

I already told cool!
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Re: freebsd is really bsd?

2011-12-13 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 13/12/2011 14:46, LinuxIsOne wrote:
 Is freebsd simply bsd name, means it is free so they appended the word
 'free' is it like this?

Yes, it is really BSD: it is the direct lineal descendant of Unix code
released by the University of California, Berkeley.  The beginnings of
the FreeBSD project were based on the 386BSD code that ultimately came
out of BSD 4.3 and 4.4.  See here, for instance:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Unix_history-simple.svg

Free in the sense of available to use in any way the user may see fit
and without onerous licensing terms or fees -- that's implicit in the
BSD part of the name[*].  Still, no harm in repeating ourselves.

Besides, it was necessary to distinguish this project from NetBSD and
later OpenBSD (plus various other more recent BSD variants).

Cheers,

Matthew

[*] Although you can still be BSD, even under commercial licensing terms
and closed source, but in that case, the name tends not to contain those
letters.  eg.  SunOS (before v5), NeXTSTEP, MacOS X.

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Re: freebsd is really bsd?

2011-12-13 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Tue Dec 13 09:18:00 2011
 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:46:41 -0500
 From: LinuxIsOne reall...@hmamail.com
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: freebsd is really bsd?

 hi,

 Is freebsd simply bsd name, means it is free so they appended the word
 'free' is it like this?

Any of the '*BSD' named operating systems trace their ancestery to various
software released by the C.S.R.G. at the University of California at
Berkeley, under the name of a 'Berkeley Software Distributin', or BSD
for short.  None of the ancestor software used in this way was a complete,
runnable and working working Operating System.   Any 'runnable' O/S 
distributed by UCB/CSRG under the 'BSD' name also required a license from
ATT.

FreeBSD _is_ free from any licensing 'encumberments' that would prevent 
one from using it 'as they see fit', subject *only* to retaining certain
accreditations aind copyright notices in the source code, and in any
docucmentationt that accompines a 'binary'/'executable'.


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Re: freebsd is really bsd?

2011-12-13 Thread LinuxIsOne
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Matthew Seaman
m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:

 Yes, it is really BSD: it is the direct lineal descendant of Unix code
 released by the University of California, Berkeley.  The beginnings of
 the FreeBSD project were based on the 386BSD code that ultimately came
 out of BSD 4.3 and 4.4.  See here, for instance:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Unix_history-simple.svg

 Free in the sense of available to use in any way the user may see fit
 and without onerous licensing terms or fees -- that's implicit in the
 BSD part of the name[*].  Still, no harm in repeating ourselves.

 Besides, it was necessary to distinguish this project from NetBSD and
 later OpenBSD (plus various other more recent BSD variants).

        Cheers,

        Matthew

 [*] Although you can still be BSD, even under commercial licensing terms
 and closed source, but in that case, the name tends not to contain those
 letters.  eg.  SunOS (before v5), NeXTSTEP, MacOS X.

Oh I see. Thanks for the explanation.
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Re: freebsd is really bsd?

2011-12-13 Thread LinuxIsOne
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Robert Bonomi
bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote:

 Any of the '*BSD' named operating systems trace their ancestery to various
 software released by the C.S.R.G. at the University of California at
 Berkeley, under the name of a 'Berkeley Software Distributin', or BSD
 for short.  None of the ancestor software used in this way was a complete,
 runnable and working working Operating System.   Any 'runnable' O/S
 distributed by UCB/CSRG under the 'BSD' name also required a license from
 ATT.

 FreeBSD _is_ free from any licensing 'encumberments' that would prevent
 one from using it 'as they see fit', subject *only* to retaining certain
 accreditations aind copyright notices in the source code, and in any
 docucmentationt that accompines a 'binary'/'executable'.

Oh I see. Thanks.
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Re: freebsd is really bsd?

2011-12-13 Thread LinuxIsOne
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com
wrote:

 Any of the '*BSD' named operating systems trace their ancestery to various
 software released by the C.S.R.G. at the University of California at
 Berkeley, under the name of a 'Berkeley Software Distributin', or BSD
 for short.  None of the ancestor software used in this way was a complete,
 runnable and working working Operating System.   Any 'runnable' O/S
 distributed by UCB/CSRG under the 'BSD' name also required a license from
 ATT.

 FreeBSD _is_ free from any licensing 'encumberments' that would prevent
 one from using it 'as they see fit', subject *only* to retaining certain
 accreditations aind copyright notices in the source code, and in any
 docucmentationt that accompines a 'binary'/'executable'.

Oh I see. Thanks
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RE: freebsd is really bsd?

2011-12-13 Thread Sean Cavanaugh
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From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of LinuxIsOne
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:47 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: freebsd is really bsd?

hi,

Is freebsd simply bsd name, means it is free so they appended the word
'free' is it like this?

Thanks
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The best explanation I have ever seen to give people fresh to the BSD
project is the following youtube clip from years ago. It traces all the way
back to its origins and gives nice examples of some of the small companies
that use BSD derived code in their programs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7tvI6JCXD0feature=relmfu

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Re: freebsd is really bsd?

2011-12-13 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:46 AM, LinuxIsOne reall...@hmamail.com wrote:

 hi,

 Is freebsd simply bsd name, means it is free so they appended the word
 'free' is it like this?


/usr/src/share/misc/bsd-family-tree

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Re: freebsd is really bsd?

2011-12-13 Thread LinuxIsOne
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Sean Cavanaugh
millenia2...@hotmail.com wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7tvI6JCXD0feature=relmfu

Cool.
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Re: freebsd is really bsd?

2011-12-13 Thread LinuxIsOne
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote:


 /usr/src/share/misc/bsd-family-tree

Oh Yes, thanks.
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