Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-14 Thread Gary Kline
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:58:30PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:58:30 +1000
 From: Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au
 Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 
 On 03/14/12 13:09, Polytropon wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 i have heard about the 848 or whatever cards for years.
 should i have my sister's technician add one?  i understood
 everything but your last paragraph.  please do send me the
 linksoffline i f you think it wise to spare the
 bandwidth.
 Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model
 name is Haupauge WinTV and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878.
 It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years).
 A problem may be that it is a PCI card.
 
 The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the
 tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying
 and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the
 card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed
 from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also
 need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your
 sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be
 combined and the result can be stored as a video file in
 any format and container you want.
 
 This is the card:
 
 bktr0@pci0:0:9:0:   class=0x04 card=0x13eb0070
  chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00
  vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)'
  device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller'
  class  = multimedia
  subclass   = video
 
 The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in,
 audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-)
 
 You need the kernel modules loaded per
 
  bktr_load=YES
 
 in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box.
 No need to manually and interactively install a driver. :-)
 
 The player command is something like
 
  % mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0
 
 and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be
 adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file.
 
 I'm not sure how to handle TV (antenna) input as I've always
 been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's
 documentation that may help:
 
  http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html
 
 It also contains an example to record to file, which will
 implement the software video tape recoder functionality.
 Brooktrees would be nice - if you could find them. Given the move to
 DVB is nearly over, there aren't many analog cards available - or
 need for them.
 
 The new cards use incompatible chipsets (learnt the hard way),
 including analog and especially DVB; you have to use the cx88 port
 to use them. Or if you come across a different chipset ensure the
 card is USB based and use webcamd.
 
 Following all that, FBSD works beautifully as a HTPC.


GAAWK! This is far, far out of my comfort zone thst i wsill
just skip it for now.  i have my feed from my local telco,
not an antenna

thanks for all the datapoints, guys, but i can vedry well
live without the card.

gary



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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-14 Thread Da Rock

On 03/15/12 05:30, Gary Kline wrote:

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:58:30PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:

Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:58:30 +1000
From: Da Rockfreebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au
Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

On 03/14/12 13:09, Polytropon wrote:

On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

i have heard about the 848 or whatever cards for years.
should i have my sister's technician add one?  i understood
everything but your last paragraph.  please do send me the
linksoffline i f you think it wise to spare the
bandwidth.

Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model
name is Haupauge WinTV and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878.
It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years).
A problem may be that it is a PCI card.

The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the
tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying
and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the
card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed

from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also

need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your
sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be
combined and the result can be stored as a video file in
any format and container you want.

This is the card:

bktr0@pci0:0:9:0:   class=0x04 card=0x13eb0070
 chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)'
 device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller'
 class  = multimedia
 subclass   = video

The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in,
audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-)

You need the kernel modules loaded per

bktr_load=YES

in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box.
No need to manually and interactively install a driver. :-)

The player command is something like

% mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0

and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be
adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file.

I'm not sure how to handle TV (antenna) input as I've always
been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's
documentation that may help:

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html

It also contains an example to record to file, which will
implement the software video tape recoder functionality.

Brooktrees would be nice - if you could find them. Given the move to
DVB is nearly over, there aren't many analog cards available - or
need for them.

The new cards use incompatible chipsets (learnt the hard way),
including analog and especially DVB; you have to use the cx88 port
to use them. Or if you come across a different chipset ensure the
card is USB based and use webcamd.

Following all that, FBSD works beautifully as a HTPC.


GAAWK! This is far, far out of my comfort zone thst i wsill
just skip it for now.  i have my feed from my local telco,
not an antenna

thanks for all the datapoints, guys, but i can vedry well
live without the card.

gary

Sorry Gary; It wasn't entirely for your sake that this came up.

For your instance I'd suggest becoming very familiar with 
mplayer/mencoder and friends. You can then pick up the stream and 
re-encode to your liking. There are some addons in web browser that can 
help grab the video as well.

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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-14 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:30:08 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 02:58:30PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
  Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:58:30 +1000
  From: Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au
  Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  
  On 03/14/12 13:09, Polytropon wrote:
  On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
i have heard about the 848 or whatever cards for years.
should i have my sister's technician add one?  i understood
everything but your last paragraph.  please do send me the
linksoffline i f you think it wise to spare the
bandwidth.
  Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model
  name is Haupauge WinTV and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878.
  It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years).
  A problem may be that it is a PCI card.
  
  The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the
  tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying
  and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the
  card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed
  from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also
  need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your
  sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be
  combined and the result can be stored as a video file in
  any format and container you want.
  
  This is the card:
  
  bktr0@pci0:0:9:0:   class=0x04 card=0x13eb0070
   chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00
   vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)'
   device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller'
   class  = multimedia
   subclass   = video
  
  The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in,
  audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-)
  
  You need the kernel modules loaded per
  
 bktr_load=YES
  
  in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box.
  No need to manually and interactively install a driver. :-)
  
  The player command is something like
  
 % mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0
  
  and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be
  adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file.
  
  I'm not sure how to handle TV (antenna) input as I've always
  been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's
  documentation that may help:
  
 http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html
  
  It also contains an example to record to file, which will
  implement the software video tape recoder functionality.
  Brooktrees would be nice - if you could find them. Given the move to
  DVB is nearly over, there aren't many analog cards available - or
  need for them.
  
  The new cards use incompatible chipsets (learnt the hard way),
  including analog and especially DVB; you have to use the cx88 port
  to use them. Or if you come across a different chipset ensure the
  card is USB based and use webcamd.
  
  Following all that, FBSD works beautifully as a HTPC.
 
 
   GAAWK! This is far, far out of my comfort zone thst i wsill
   just skip it for now.  i have my feed from my local telco,
   not an antenna

The BrookTree TV tuner component doesn't make a big difference
here. Both the antenna and the cable will deliver a frequency
conglomerate of the available TV programs which the tuner chip
can select from.

If you require a specific cable receiver with video-out, you can
send its signal to the card's video-on (and the audio-out of the
receiver to your computer's sound card's line-in), skipping the
part where the TV card has to select a TV program. Both methods
work fine.



   thanks for all the datapoints, guys, but i can vedry well
   live without the card.

In that case, try to find a web presence that allows you to down-
load or to stream (and in conclusion, to download) the TV programs.
This makes you independent of airing time (which probably is a
good thing).

Maybe there's also a service like OnlineTVRecorder.com (Your
personal multichannel tv recorder) available for you, providing
downloads for the programs you want in AVI or OTRKEY format.



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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-13 Thread FBSD UG
doesn't VLC do that too?



On 11 mrt 2012, at 21:28, Gary Kline wrote:

 guys,
 
 i made the mistake that conrad did when replying.  i could make e
 excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont.
 
 here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or
 radio stream for later replay?  or is that illegal, too?
 
 gray
 
 
 
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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-13 Thread Stas Verberkt

Bernt Hansson schreef op 13-03-2012 12:12:

On 2012-03-11 21:28, Gary Kline wrote:

or is that illegal, too?


Depends on jurisdiction.

Indeed, Dutch and Belgium legislation, for example, permit making 
copies for personal use, which originates from recording the radio with 
a tape deck, which is basically what you are trying to do.
I think US legislation is more strict and only allows personal copies 
where one has both the original and the copy, e.g. copying a CD to your 
(licensed) MP3 player.

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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 03:52:36PM -0500, Joshua Isom wrote:
 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:52:36 -0500
 From: Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 
 On 3/11/2012 3:28 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
 guys,
 
 i made the mistake that conrad did when replying.  i could make e
 excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont.
 
 here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or
 radio stream for later replay?  or is that illegal, too?
 
 gray
 
 
 
 
 For capturing, I believe linux is your best bet.  I had tried using
 the bktr driver, but I couldn't get it to work properly with the
 card I had.  It could work somewhat from what I remember.  The card
 was my brother's and he used it under linux, but he upgraded to a
 better one.
 
 Legality should be the same as a VCR/DVR, personal use only and
 don't redistribute.


if it means buying a card, then, nope.  i  assumed that the
bits were streaming thu my cable to firefox and that thedre
was some program that could collecte these data and stash
them in, say , /tmp.  i'm using linux as a desktop, and FBSD
as my server.  

maybed i'll find where pbs has these films stashed ... or
maybe they were only for pledge week  

gary

ps:: fwiw, that capmbell stuff was about half of the
original.  i've got all 6 hours of audio, tho.

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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:39:38PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:39:38 +1000
 From: Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au
 Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
[ ...]

 
 Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind of media
 streams. There are tools for that available.
 There is cx88 in the ports which will cover a lot of pci devices, and
  webcamd covers just about all the rest. Then use mplayer or another
 tool to record the stream.
 
 And if you're real tricky you can set it to record at a specific time
  and shut off at another specified time... :) I wrote a script for
 this; a bit hackish, but it gets the job done. I have to clean it up
 someday when I have the spare time.
 
 No one suggesting MythTV? I haven't used a tuner card but I thought
 MythTV was the one to use.
 Pah! Too much bloat - especially for this use.
 
 A lot of setup and configuration is required, and for a one off why bother?

so that's it.  i messed around with mythtv last fall on my
ubuntu distro.  couldn't get anywhere and finally realized
that =you need some kind of HARDWARE=.  well, bleep that.  i
de-installed and got back to whatever.

sinced early december i've been working on an accessibility
app for the speech impaired.  it won't work on the berkeley
distros natively.  it should given our linux stuff.  i'll 
tell you: i haven't have this much of a challenge since i
was studying  data structures.  Danm, gtk is hard.  but 
super fun.  my application is as lean as i can make it, 
Especially since it is aimed an people who have never used
computers before.  i'm copying as much of gespeaker's 
layout as i can because that is very lean and clean.

---this is a long-winded way of saying to da rock that i
hope you clean up your script[s] and publish the code in
/usr/ports.

{a final rant about copyright:: i woulnd never touch any
commercial station because they sneak in those bloody
commerc*als  on you.  before you know it, you've watched
a minute of babes trying to sell you your Zippy-Do sports
van.  i dont have the energy to get mad.  i just dont watch
anything but pbs   or npr.}


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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-13 Thread Josh Tolbert

On 3/13/12 4:06 PM, Gary Kline wrote:

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:39:38PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
so that's it. i messed around with mythtv last fall on my ubuntu 
distro. couldn't get anywhere and finally realized that =you need some 
kind of HARDWARE=.


I have an HDHomeRun...The original classic two-tuner model, from 
http://www.silicondust.com. It's a stand-alone DTV streamer. I use it 
with an antenna; apparently you can get versions that work with antennas 
or cablecard/cable TV as well. Works great. I use it with Windows Media 
Center for scheduling recordings, but they work great with MythTV, VLC 
and others for recording. Using VLC, I've recorded some videos of a 
local band on a morning show that have ended up on YouTube...I can send 
links if you want to see how it looks, although that station only 
broadcasts in 480i.


For what it's worth, I've successfully used three BT848/878/878+ 
cards---all of which were PixelView or STB cards---in the same machine 
running FreeBSD with the bktr driver and Motion to handle 
surveillance-camera duties. mplayer/mencoder could only use bktr0 cause 
they hard-code bktr0 in the source and seemed thoroughly uninterested in 
fixing this oversight, even though the change would be fairly minor.


Hope that helps someone.

Cheers,

Josh

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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 04:14:52PM -0500, Josh Tolbert wrote:
 Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 16:14:52 -0500
 From: Josh Tolbert h...@puresimplicity.net
 Subject: Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 
 On 3/13/12 4:06 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:39:38PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
 so that's it. i messed around with mythtv last fall on my ubuntu
 distro. couldn't get anywhere and finally realized that =you need
 some kind of HARDWARE=.
 
 I have an HDHomeRun...The original classic two-tuner model, from
 http://www.silicondust.com. It's a stand-alone DTV streamer. I use
 it with an antenna; apparently you can get versions that work with
 antennas or cablecard/cable TV as well. Works great. I use it with
 Windows Media Center for scheduling recordings, but they work great
 with MythTV, VLC and others for recording. Using VLC, I've recorded
 some videos of a local band on a morning show that have ended up on
 YouTube...I can send links if you want to see how it looks, although
 that station only broadcasts in 480i.
 
 For what it's worth, I've successfully used three BT848/878/878+
 cards---all of which were PixelView or STB cards---in the same
 machine running FreeBSD with the bktr driver and Motion to handle
 surveillance-camera duties. mplayer/mencoder could only use bktr0
 cause they hard-code bktr0 in the source and seemed thoroughly
 uninterested in fixing this oversight, even though the change would
 be fairly minor.
 
 Hope that helps someone.


hey, josh, you just gave me an idea.  my sister is giving me
a used computer that is in good shape.

i have heard about the 848 or whatever cards for years.
should i have my sister's technician add one?  i understood
everything but your last paragraph.  please do send me the
linksoffline i f you think it wise to spare the
bandwidth.

Q:  i have [i think] hi-def in the used computer, so  want a
hi-def card

yours in geezer-geeekdom,

gary

PS: i was a kernel hacker, a porter, and an OS TEster.
pix, tv, [movies], audio  are strictly over my head.


 
 Cheers,
 
 Josh
 
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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-13 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:02:24 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
   if it means buying a card, then, nope.  i  assumed that the
   bits were streaming thu my cable to firefox and that thedre
   was some program that could collecte these data and stash
   them in, say , /tmp.  i'm using linux as a desktop, and FBSD
   as my server.  

There are download helper plugins available for Firefox
that allow you to capture streaming content to a file.



   maybed i'll find where pbs has these films stashed ... or
   maybe they were only for pledge week  

Regular file downloads are something you'll hardly find
on the modern web. But that doesn't mean you cannot
turn streams into files. After all, the data _is_ trans-
ferred to your computer. It's just a question to use the
proper program. :-)





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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-13 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
   i have heard about the 848 or whatever cards for years.
   should i have my sister's technician add one?  i understood
   everything but your last paragraph.  please do send me the
   linksoffline i f you think it wise to spare the
   bandwidth.

Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model
name is Haupauge WinTV and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878.
It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years).
A problem may be that it is a PCI card.

The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the
tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying
and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the
card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed
from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also
need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your
sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be
combined and the result can be stored as a video file in
any format and container you want.

This is the card:

bktr0@pci0:0:9:0:   class=0x04 card=0x13eb0070
chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)'
device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller'
class  = multimedia
subclass   = video

The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in,
audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-)

You need the kernel modules loaded per

bktr_load=YES

in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box.
No need to manually and interactively install a driver. :-)

The player command is something like

% mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0

and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be
adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file.

I'm not sure how to handle TV (antenna) input as I've always
been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's
documentation that may help:

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html

It also contains an example to record to file, which will
implement the software video tape recoder functionality.



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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-13 Thread Da Rock

On 03/14/12 13:09, Polytropon wrote:

On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:19:46 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

i have heard about the 848 or whatever cards for years.
should i have my sister's technician add one?  i understood
everything but your last paragraph.  please do send me the
linksoffline i f you think it wise to spare the
bandwidth.

Just to make a note: This is the card I'm using. The model
name is Haupauge WinTV and the tuner chip is Brooktree 878.
It is well supported by FreeBSD (and has been for many years).
A problem may be that it is a PCI card.

The programs mplayer and mencoder can be used to address the
tuner and video-in functions of that card, as well as displaying
and storing the received content. You need a HF line to the
card (or an antenna maybe), except you provide the video feed
from a satelite receiver via video-in. In that case, you also
need to provide the audio signal from the receiver to your
sound card's line-in. With mencoder, both sources can be
combined and the result can be stored as a video file in
any format and container you want.

This is the card:

bktr0@pci0:0:9:0:   class=0x04 card=0x13eb0070
 chip=0x036e109e rev=0x11 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Conexant (Was: Brooktree Corp)'
 device = 'Bt878/Fusion 878A Mediastream Controller'
 class  = multimedia
 subclass   = video

The card provides HF-in both for TV and radio, video-in,
audio-out and... not sure what it is. :-)

You need the kernel modules loaded per

bktr_load=YES

in /boot/loader.conf, and the card will work out of the box.
No need to manually and interactively install a driver. :-)

The player command is something like

% mplayer tv://1 -vo x11 -ao sdl -tv driver=bsdbt848:device=/dev/bktr0

and similarly mencoder can be used (-ovc and -oac need to be
adjusted accordingly) to encode to a file.

I'm not sure how to handle TV (antenna) input as I've always
been using a raw video feed (from VTR or camera). However, there's
documentation that may help:

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/tv-input.html

It also contains an example to record to file, which will
implement the software video tape recoder functionality.
Brooktrees would be nice - if you could find them. Given the move to DVB 
is nearly over, there aren't many analog cards available - or need for them.


The new cards use incompatible chipsets (learnt the hard way), including 
analog and especially DVB; you have to use the cx88 port to use them. Or 
if you come across a different chipset ensure the card is USB based and 
use webcamd.


Following all that, FBSD works beautifully as a HTPC.
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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-12 Thread Shane Ambler

On 12/03/2012 10:16, Da Rock wrote:

On 03/12/12 07:19, Polytropon wrote:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv
stream---or radio stream for later replay?

I've been using a BrookTree (Haupauge WinTV) PCI card for
capturing from TV which worked very good using the standard
programs mplayer and mencoder.

For capturing TV programs, there may be some service like the
Online TV Recoder which I occassionally use. Maybe this works also
for radio programs?

Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind of media
streams. There are tools for that available.

There is cx88 in the ports which will cover a lot of pci devices, and
 webcamd covers just about all the rest. Then use mplayer or another
tool to record the stream.

And if you're real tricky you can set it to record at a specific time
 and shut off at another specified time... :) I wrote a script for
this; a bit hackish, but it gets the job done. I have to clean it up
someday when I have the spare time.


No one suggesting MythTV? I haven't used a tuner card but I thought
MythTV was the one to use.


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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-12 Thread Da Rock

On 03/13/12 12:27, Shane Ambler wrote:

On 12/03/2012 10:16, Da Rock wrote:

On 03/12/12 07:19, Polytropon wrote:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv
stream---or radio stream for later replay?

I've been using a BrookTree (Haupauge WinTV) PCI card for
capturing from TV which worked very good using the standard
programs mplayer and mencoder.

For capturing TV programs, there may be some service like the
Online TV Recoder which I occassionally use. Maybe this works also
for radio programs?

Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind of media
streams. There are tools for that available.

There is cx88 in the ports which will cover a lot of pci devices, and
 webcamd covers just about all the rest. Then use mplayer or another
tool to record the stream.

And if you're real tricky you can set it to record at a specific time
 and shut off at another specified time... :) I wrote a script for
this; a bit hackish, but it gets the job done. I have to clean it up
someday when I have the spare time.


No one suggesting MythTV? I haven't used a tuner card but I thought
MythTV was the one to use.

Pah! Too much bloat - especially for this use.

A lot of setup and configuration is required, and for a one off why bother?
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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-11 Thread Joshua Isom

On 3/11/2012 3:28 PM, Gary Kline wrote:

guys,

i made the mistake that conrad did when replying.  i could make e
excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont.

here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or
radio stream for later replay?  or is that illegal, too?

gray





For capturing, I believe linux is your best bet.  I had tried using the 
bktr driver, but I couldn't get it to work properly with the card I had. 
 It could work somewhat from what I remember.  The card was my 
brother's and he used it under linux, but he upgraded to a better one.


Legality should be the same as a VCR/DVR, personal use only and don't 
redistribute.

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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-11 Thread Al Plant

Gary Kline wrote:

guys,

i made the mistake that conrad did when replying.  i could make e
excuse liked only getting five hours sleep, etc, bujt i wont.

here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or
radio stream for later replay?  or is that illegal, too?

gray




Aloha,

Most Public Radio stations have the programs in podcast form from their 
websites. I have had TV stations send me dvd's of broadcasts that my 
Wife has been on here in Hawaii. I think asking the media will get you 
results.


Many of us on the FreeBSD questions list seem to have writing 
backgrounds and are interested in Joseph Campbell and his developments 
in writing and storytelling audio and video process.


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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-11 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or
 radio stream for later replay?

I've been using a BrookTree (Haupauge WinTV) PCI card for
capturing from TV which worked very good using the standard
programs mplayer and mencoder.

For capturing TV programs, there may be some service like
the Online TV Recoder which I occassionally use. Maybe this
works also for radio programs?

Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind
of media streams. There are tools for that available.



 or is that illegal, too?

Yes, it is. It's also illegal to listen to MP3 in the US. :-)




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Re: oops, now: bsd question: how to record a tv stream?

2012-03-11 Thread Da Rock

On 03/12/12 07:19, Polytropon wrote:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:28:19 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

here us a FBSD qauestion how can i capture any tv stream---or
radio stream for later replay?

I've been using a BrookTree (Haupauge WinTV) PCI card for
capturing from TV which worked very good using the standard
programs mplayer and mencoder.

For capturing TV programs, there may be some service like
the Online TV Recoder which I occassionally use. Maybe this
works also for radio programs?

Additionally, there may be an option to download some kind
of media streams. There are tools for that available.
There is cx88 in the ports which will cover a lot of pci devices, and 
webcamd covers just about all the rest. Then use mplayer or another tool 
to record the stream.


And if you're real tricky you can set it to record at a specific time 
and shut off at another specified time... :) I wrote a script for this; 
a bit hackish, but it gets the job done. I have to clean it up someday 
when I have the spare time.

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