Re: problems with sound :[

2004-11-12 Thread jason
Danny MacMillan wrote:
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 05:27:27PM -0700, eodyna wrote:
 

Hi all
thank-you ohh so much for your help thus far!
It was indeed that little cable. When i looked it
didn't exist :) [not very good with hardware] i will
need to buy one and try that out!
   

In the meantime, I think there are other applications that play
CDs the hard way, especially as evidenced by Jason's post.  I
don't know what they are, as  I've actually never played an
audio CD in any of my FreeBSD boxes.
 

Opps, I should have just told you how I do it to begin with.  I can use 
any app, put it is usually xmms.  I config the player to play from 
/dev/acd0 and use digital audio only.  I added a group called cd_access 
that could access and mount drives(cd drives only I think) and made my 
self a group member. I set vfs.usermount = 1 under sysctl.config.  I added

own/dev/acd0root:cd_access
perm/dev/acd00770
to devfs.conf.  I set this up when I was much newer to BSD, I think I 
may have the wrong permissions.  Anyone see a problem?  I can also mount 
cds to any dir I own without any su or sudo stuff.  I can also burncds 
to with this set up.  When I was really new I had to run xmms as root to 
get it to play cds, which is why I found this group stuff out so I would 
not need to run xmms as root.

This should be in the handbook, anyone else think so?
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Re: problems with sound :[

2004-11-11 Thread jason
Danny MacMillan wrote:
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 11:34:14PM -0700, eodyna wrote:
 

hi everyone,
I can play mp3's :) but i cant seam to be able to play
cd's.
any ideas?
thanks again.
   

It seems likely that the tiny analog or digital cable between
your sound card and your CD-ROM drive is not connected.
 

My cds play just fine without that cable.
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Re: problems with sound :[

2004-11-11 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 11 November 2004 09:56 am, jason wrote:
 Danny MacMillan wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 11:34:14PM -0700, eodyna wrote:
 hi everyone,
 
 I can play mp3's :) but i cant seam to be able to play
 cd's.
 
 any ideas?
 
 thanks again.
 
 It seems likely that the tiny analog or digital cable between
 your sound card and your CD-ROM drive is not connected.

 My cds play just fine without that cable.

1. How are you trying to play cd's?  (what application, etc)

2. Did you recently recompile your kernel with atapicam and forget to 
change you CDROM device in /etc/fstab?

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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Re: problems with sound :[

2004-11-11 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 08:56:54AM -0700, jason wrote:
 Danny MacMillan wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 11:34:14PM -0700, eodyna wrote:
  hi everyone,
  
  I can play mp3's :) but i cant seam to be able to play
  cd's.
  
  any ideas?
  
  thanks again.
  
  It seems likely that the tiny analog or digital cable
  between your sound card and your CD-ROM drive is not
  connected.
 
 My cds play just fine without that cable.

There are two ways sound gets from the CD to the sound card.
It can go directly from the CD to the sound card through the
analog or digital cable connecting the two.  Or it can be
read from the CD as data via the IDE interface and channeled
to the sound card through the system bus in the same way as
MP3s or any other digital sound information.  How the sound
actually travels is a function of what application is used
to play the sound.  The former is a more efficient use of
system resources.

Since the original poster can play MP3s but not CDs, there
are two probable candidates for failure.  The first and most
likely is that the CD-ROM and sound card are not connected
by that little cable, and that the original poster is using
an application that just tells the CD-ROM drive to start
playing instead of actually reading the music from the CD.
The other and less likely is that the CD-ROM is not able to
read the CD at all.

-- 
Danny
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Re: problems with sound :[

2004-11-11 Thread eodyna
Hi all

thank-you ohh so much for your help thus far!
It was indeed that little cable. When i looked it
didn't exist :) [not very good with hardware] i will
need to buy one and try that out!

thank-you so much. there are very knowledgable and
talented people here.

arigatou!
and thanks for the explanation danny!
--ams

 --- Danny MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 
 On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 08:56:54AM -0700, jason
 wrote:
  Danny MacMillan wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 11:34:14PM -0700, eodyna
 wrote:
   hi everyone,
   
   I can play mp3's :) but i cant seam to be able
 to play
   cd's.
   
   any ideas?
   
   thanks again.
   
   It seems likely that the tiny analog or digital
 cable
   between your sound card and your CD-ROM drive is
 not
   connected.
  
  My cds play just fine without that cable.
 
 There are two ways sound gets from the CD to the
 sound card.
 It can go directly from the CD to the sound card
 through the
 analog or digital cable connecting the two.  Or it
 can be
 read from the CD as data via the IDE interface and
 channeled
 to the sound card through the system bus in the same
 way as
 MP3s or any other digital sound information.  How
 the sound
 actually travels is a function of what application
 is used
 to play the sound.  The former is a more efficient
 use of
 system resources.
 
 Since the original poster can play MP3s but not CDs,
 there
 are two probable candidates for failure.  The first
 and most
 likely is that the CD-ROM and sound card are not
 connected
 by that little cable, and that the original poster
 is using
 an application that just tells the CD-ROM drive to
 start
 playing instead of actually reading the music from
 the CD.
 The other and less likely is that the CD-ROM is not
 able to
 read the CD at all.
 
 -- 
 Danny
  

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Re: problems with sound :[

2004-11-11 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 05:27:27PM -0700, eodyna wrote:
 Hi all
 
 thank-you ohh so much for your help thus far!
 It was indeed that little cable. When i looked it
 didn't exist :) [not very good with hardware] i will
 need to buy one and try that out!

In the meantime, I think there are other applications that play
CDs the hard way, especially as evidenced by Jason's post.  I
don't know what they are, as  I've actually never played an
audio CD in any of my FreeBSD boxes.

-- 
Danny
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Re: problems with sound :[

2004-11-10 Thread jason
eodyna wrote:
hi there again,
im having trouble trying to get my sound card to work.
it looks like the driver gets loaded but no sound
comes out.
I test this through gnome, running the cd cdplayer
under the multimedia tab. Ive checked that the volume
is up through the volume control in the same menu.
any ideas on how i can fix this?
Oh im using 5.3
thanks for your help.
ps: im not on the mailing list. may you please cc me?
thanks again
-- /boot/loader.conf
snd_ich_load=yes
 

Does gnome has a sound server or manager?  KDE will try to control the 
sound and you get nothing until you disable kde's internal sound 
server.  Also add some vchans.  To see if it is gnome try to play some 
sound on the command line, without x(gnome) running.
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Re: problems with sound :[

2004-11-10 Thread Jorge Mario G.
hi there
are you sure your sound card is an ich?
first try loading all sound drivers

check you sndstat
#cat /dev/sndstat

trow something to your /dev/dsp

and read you dmesg


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Re: problems with sound :[

2004-11-10 Thread eodyna
Hi jason,

thanks for your advice,
i will try the vchans. Although i read somewhere that
it has some problems associated with it.

Thanks

 --- jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 eodyna wrote:
 
 hi there again,
 
 im having trouble trying to get my sound card to
 work.
 it looks like the driver gets loaded but no sound
 comes out.
 
 I test this through gnome, running the cd cdplayer
 under the multimedia tab. Ive checked that the
 volume
 is up through the volume control in the same menu.
 
 any ideas on how i can fix this?
 
 Oh im using 5.3
 
 thanks for your help.
 ps: im not on the mailing list. may you please cc
 me?
 thanks again
 -- /boot/loader.conf
 snd_ich_load=yes
   
 
 Does gnome has a sound server or manager?  KDE will
 try to control the 
 sound and you get nothing until you disable kde's
 internal sound 
 server.  Also add some vchans.  To see if it is
 gnome try to play some 
 sound on the command line, without x(gnome) running.
  

Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
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Re: problems with sound :[

2004-11-10 Thread eodyna
Hi Jorge,

Thankyou for your advice..

I orginally installed snd_driver (which contains all
the drivers) and it indeed picked up snd_ich.

my current /dev/sndstat and dmesg also point to
snd_ich.

--ams
 --- Jorge Mario G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 hi there
 are you sure your sound card is an ich?
 first try loading all sound drivers
 
 check you sndstat
 #cat /dev/sndstat
 
 trow something to your /dev/dsp
 
 and read you dmesg
 
 
 Jorge
 

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Re: problems with sound :[

2004-11-10 Thread jason
eodyna wrote:
Hi jason,
thanks for your advice,
i will try the vchans. Although i read somewhere that
it has some problems associated with it.
Thanks
 

I think ich is for the intel stuff, maybe ac97.   Problems?  It is in 
the handbook, you will get problems from playing multiply sound sources 
at the same time without vchans.
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Re: problems with sound :[

2004-11-10 Thread eodyna
hi everyone,

I can play mp3's :) but i cant seam to be able to play
cd's.

any ideas?

thanks again.

--ams
 --- jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 eodyna wrote:
 
 hi there again,
 
 im having trouble trying to get my sound card to
 work.
 it looks like the driver gets loaded but no sound
 comes out.
 
 I test this through gnome, running the cd cdplayer
 under the multimedia tab. Ive checked that the
 volume
 is up through the volume control in the same menu.
 
 any ideas on how i can fix this?
 
 Oh im using 5.3
 
 thanks for your help.
 ps: im not on the mailing list. may you please cc
 me?
 thanks again
 -- /boot/loader.conf
 snd_ich_load=yes
   
 
 Does gnome has a sound server or manager?  KDE will
 try to control the 
 sound and you get nothing until you disable kde's
 internal sound 
 server.  Also add some vchans.  To see if it is
 gnome try to play some 
 sound on the command line, without x(gnome) running.
  

Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
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RE: problems with sound :[

2004-11-10 Thread Subhro

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Subject: Re: problems with sound :[

hi everyone,

I can play mp3's :) but i cant seam to be able to play
cd's.

any ideas?

Is the audio cable connected properly between your CD drive and the sound
card?

Regards
S.




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Re: problems with sound :[

2004-11-10 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 11:34:14PM -0700, eodyna wrote:
 hi everyone,
 
 I can play mp3's :) but i cant seam to be able to play
 cd's.
 
 any ideas?
 
 thanks again.

It seems likely that the tiny analog or digital cable between
your sound card and your CD-ROM drive is not connected.

-- 
Danny
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