Re: seems i cannot fully understand {/,/usr/local/}/etc/rc.d/*

2012-06-20 Thread Robert Bonomi

> From: Wojciech Puchar 
>
> >> But still - do you know why it is necessary?
> >
> > An explanation written some 80 years ago;
> >  'Because that way it will work'.
> if you don't have anything to say - just don't do it.
practice what you preach.
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Re: seems i cannot fully understand {/,/usr/local/}/etc/rc.d/*

2012-06-20 Thread RW
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:02:48 -0400
Jerry wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:47:29 +0100
> RW articulated:
> 
> > On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:45:07 +0100
> > Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > 
> > > #!/bin/sh
> > > #
> > > # Persuade vboxheadless to start before samba.
> > > 
> > > # PROVIDE: precedence
> > > # REQUIRE: vboxheadless
> > > # BEFORE: samba
> > > 
> > > :
> > > 
> > > Make it executable.  Note -- the ':' does seem to be necessary.
> > 
> > Why? None of the dummy scripts in the base system have a ":".
> 
> From "man rc"
> 
> EXAMPLES
>  The following is a minimal rc.d/ style script.  Most scripts
> require lit- tle more than the following.
> 
>#!/bin/sh
>#
> 
># PROVIDE: foo
># REQUIRE: bar_service_required_to_precede_foo
> 
>. /etc/rc.subr
> 
>name="foo"
>rcvar=`set_rcvar`
>command="/usr/local/bin/foo"
> 
>load_rc_config $name
>run_rc_command "$1"
> 
> You will notice the prominent use of ":".

We were talking about the null command colon at the bottom of the
script, not the colons in comments at the top.
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Re: seems i cannot fully understand {/,/usr/local/}/etc/rc.d/*

2012-06-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 20/06/2012 12:47, RW wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:45:07 +0100
> Matthew Seaman wrote:
> 
>> #!/bin/sh
>> #
>> # Persuade vboxheadless to start before samba.
>>
>> # PROVIDE: precedence
>> # REQUIRE: vboxheadless
>> # BEFORE: samba
>>
>> :
>>
>> Make it executable.  Note -- the ':' does seem to be necessary.
> 
> Why? None of the dummy scripts in the base system have a ":".

It seems I was mistaken.  As far as rcorder goes, an empty script is
just as good as a single null command:

% cat precedence
#!/bin/sh
#
# Persuade postgresql to start before spamassassin.

# PROVIDE: precedence
# REQUIRE: postgresql
# BEFORE: spamd

% rcorder /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/* | grep -E
'postgresql|precedence|sa-spamd'
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/postgresql
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/precedence
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd

Hey -- I saved a whole two bytes.  Woohoo!

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: seems i cannot fully understand {/,/usr/local/}/etc/rc.d/*

2012-06-20 Thread Damien Fleuriot


On 6/20/12 11:09 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On 20/06/2012 09:51, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>>
>>> Create a new file in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/precedence with the following
>>> contents:
>>>
>>> #!/bin/sh
>>> #
>>> # Persuade vboxheadless to start before samba.
>>>
>>> # PROVIDE: precedence
>>> # REQUIRE: vboxheadless
>>> # BEFORE: samba
>>>
>>> :
>>>
>>> Make it executable.  Note -- the ':' does seem to be necessary.
>>>
>> thank you for help. I will test it when being on place and could reboot.
>>
>> But still - do you know why it is necessary?
>>
>> cannot i just add BEFORE: samba in vboxheadless?
>>
> 
> Yes, that should work too.  However any time you update vboxheadless
> you'll have to remember to add that modification back to the rc script.
>  Using a separate file stops that being a problem.
> 
> If you want to test that your changes are having the desired effect
> without having to reboot:
> 
># rcorder /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/*
> 
> which will print out the order all the rc-scripts would be run.  (It
> includes all the scripts, not just the ones enabled in /etc/rc.conf, but
> that shouldn't matter.)
> 
>   Cheers,
> 
>   Matthew
> 

A very helpful post, adding to favorites.


Might that, possibly, warrant a handbook entry ?
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Re: seems i cannot fully understand {/,/usr/local/}/etc/rc.d/*

2012-06-20 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:47:29 +0100
RW articulated:

> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:45:07 +0100
> Matthew Seaman wrote:
> 
> > #!/bin/sh
> > #
> > # Persuade vboxheadless to start before samba.
> > 
> > # PROVIDE: precedence
> > # REQUIRE: vboxheadless
> > # BEFORE: samba
> > 
> > :
> > 
> > Make it executable.  Note -- the ':' does seem to be necessary.
> 
> Why? None of the dummy scripts in the base system have a ":".

From "man rc"

EXAMPLES
 The following is a minimal rc.d/ style script.  Most scripts require lit-
 tle more than the following.

   #!/bin/sh
   #

   # PROVIDE: foo
   # REQUIRE: bar_service_required_to_precede_foo

   . /etc/rc.subr

   name="foo"
   rcvar=`set_rcvar`
   command="/usr/local/bin/foo"

   load_rc_config $name
   run_rc_command "$1"

You will notice the prominent use of ":". If you feel that is in error,
please feel free to submit a PR against it.

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Re: seems i cannot fully understand {/,/usr/local/}/etc/rc.d/*

2012-06-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar

But still - do you know why it is necessary?


An explanation written some 80 years ago;
 'Because that way it will work'.

if you don't have anything to say - just don't do it.
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Re: seems i cannot fully understand {/,/usr/local/}/etc/rc.d/*

2012-06-20 Thread RW
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:45:07 +0100
Matthew Seaman wrote:

> #!/bin/sh
> #
> # Persuade vboxheadless to start before samba.
> 
> # PROVIDE: precedence
> # REQUIRE: vboxheadless
> # BEFORE: samba
> 
> :
> 
> Make it executable.  Note -- the ':' does seem to be necessary.

Why? None of the dummy scripts in the base system have a ":".
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Re: seems i cannot fully understand {/,/usr/local/}/etc/rc.d/*

2012-06-20 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Wed Jun 20 03:51:43 2012
> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:51:04 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Wojciech Puchar 
> To: Matthew Seaman 
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: seems i cannot fully understand {/,/usr/local/}/etc/rc.d/*
>
> >
> > Create a new file in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/precedence with the following
> > contents:
> >
> > #!/bin/sh
> > #
> > # Persuade vboxheadless to start before samba.
> >
> > # PROVIDE: precedence
> > # REQUIRE: vboxheadless
> > # BEFORE: samba
> >
> > :
> >
> > Make it executable.  Note -- the ':' does seem to be necessary.
> >
> thank you for help. I will test it when being on place and could 
> reboot.
>
> But still - do you know why it is necessary?

An explanation written some 80 years ago; 
  'Because that way it will work'.
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Re: seems i cannot fully understand {/,/usr/local/}/etc/rc.d/*

2012-06-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar

#!/bin/sh
#
# Persuade vboxheadless to start before samba.

# PROVIDE: precedence
# REQUIRE: vboxheadless
# BEFORE: samba

:

Make it executable.  Note -- the ':' does seem to be necessary.


thank you for help. I will test it when being on place and could reboot.

But still - do you know why it is necessary?

cannot i just add BEFORE: samba in vboxheadless?



Yes, that should work too.  However any time you update vboxheadless
you'll have to remember to add that modification back to the rc script.
Using a separate file stops that being a problem.


now i understood completely. thank you
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Re: seems i cannot fully understand {/,/usr/local/}/etc/rc.d/*

2012-06-20 Thread Jerry
On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:51:04 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar articulated:

> > Create a new file in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/precedence with the
> > following contents:
> >
> > #!/bin/sh
> > #
> > # Persuade vboxheadless to start before samba.
> >
> > # PROVIDE: precedence
> > # REQUIRE: vboxheadless
> > # BEFORE: samba
> >
> > :
> >
> > Make it executable.  Note -- the ':' does seem to be necessary.
> >
> thank you for help. I will test it when being on place and could 
> reboot.
> 
> But still - do you know why it is necessary?
> 
> cannot i just add BEFORE: samba in vboxheadless?

I had a similar problem about two years ago. One program required
program "X" to load prior to it while program "Y" wanted to load it
after it. It was causing a conflict. It is slightly difficult to explain
in a few words. I had to manually check every file in
the /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory to straighten it out. I believe that
there is a way to have all of that information displayed without going
through that much intervention; however, I do not remember how to do it
at the moment.

Anyway, in the "samba" file, it has this notation:

# PROVIDE: nmbd smbd

I don't know if that makes any difference or not. I have never had to
move the starting order of samba around. I do know that in other
applications, they appear to have their name in the "PROVIDE" line. For
example, from the Postfix script:

# PROVIDE: postfix mail

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Re: seems i cannot fully understand {/,/usr/local/}/etc/rc.d/*

2012-06-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 20/06/2012 09:51, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>
>> Create a new file in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/precedence with the following
>> contents:
>>
>> #!/bin/sh
>> #
>> # Persuade vboxheadless to start before samba.
>>
>> # PROVIDE: precedence
>> # REQUIRE: vboxheadless
>> # BEFORE: samba
>>
>> :
>>
>> Make it executable.  Note -- the ':' does seem to be necessary.
>>
> thank you for help. I will test it when being on place and could reboot.
> 
> But still - do you know why it is necessary?
> 
> cannot i just add BEFORE: samba in vboxheadless?
> 

Yes, that should work too.  However any time you update vboxheadless
you'll have to remember to add that modification back to the rc script.
 Using a separate file stops that being a problem.

If you want to test that your changes are having the desired effect
without having to reboot:

   # rcorder /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/*

which will print out the order all the rc-scripts would be run.  (It
includes all the scripts, not just the ones enabled in /etc/rc.conf, but
that shouldn't matter.)

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: seems i cannot fully understand {/,/usr/local/}/etc/rc.d/*

2012-06-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar


Create a new file in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/precedence with the following
contents:

#!/bin/sh
#
# Persuade vboxheadless to start before samba.

# PROVIDE: precedence
# REQUIRE: vboxheadless
# BEFORE: samba

:

Make it executable.  Note -- the ':' does seem to be necessary.

thank you for help. I will test it when being on place and could 
reboot.


But still - do you know why it is necessary?

cannot i just add BEFORE: samba in vboxheadless?


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Re: seems i cannot fully understand {/,/usr/local/}/etc/rc.d/*

2012-06-20 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 20/06/2012 09:24, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> i have samba server and few virtualbox sessions using vboxnet which is
> started by /usr/local/etc/rc.d/vboxheadless
> 
> i want samba to be started AFTER vboxheadless as the latter configures
> vboxnet0 automatically when started, and samba do bind to vboxnet0.
> 
> so i appended vboxheadless to REQUIRE: line in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/samba
> because vboxheadless is a word after PROVIDE: in
> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/vboxheadless script
> 
> yet - samba still is started before vboxheadless.
> 
> what i am missing?

Create a new file in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/precedence with the following
contents:

#!/bin/sh
#
# Persuade vboxheadless to start before samba.

# PROVIDE: precedence
# REQUIRE: vboxheadless
# BEFORE: samba

:

Make it executable.  Note -- the ':' does seem to be necessary.

Cheers,

Matthew

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