Re: shopping for a new server

2011-08-25 Thread Tim Kellers

Thank you Max, that sounds like good news so far.

Tim Kellers

On 08/25/11 13:57, Maxim Khitrov wrote:

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Tim Kellerstimot...@wallnet.com  wrote:

Dell 2500 from 10 years back is soon to be very dead in the machine room at
work.  I'm thinking about replacing it with a Rack mount Dell R610  has
anyone used that and has compatibility issues or successes?  I'll be using a
RAID 5 setup and PERC version is up to 6i in this box, any issues with this
PERC?  The specs indicate R610 will way outperform the old 2500.  The 2500
currently supports mail (sendmail), web, db (pgsql and mysql), samba, etc.

I Googled and found a bunch of somewhat older posts that showed some NIC
issues and some PERC issues but it looked like most issues had been
corrected by the beginning of 2011.  Does anyone have any recent
duccess/failure stories?

I'd probably be looking to run 8.2 RELEASE AMD or 9.0 AMD when it becomes
release.

Thanks

Tim

I'm currently configuring FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 on an R610 with PERC H700
RAID controller. H700 uses the mfi(4) driver, I think that also goes
for PERC 6/I. Network uses the bce(4) driver. No real problems to
report.

One minor issue I ran into is that disabling serial ports in BIOS
causes FreeBSD to freeze when booting. The solution is simply to set
serial ports to be On without Console Redirection. You should also
leave Intel I/OAT disabled, since FreeBSD has no support for it.

- Max




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Re: shopping for a new server

2011-08-25 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Tim Kellers timot...@wallnet.com wrote:
 Dell 2500 from 10 years back is soon to be very dead in the machine room at
 work.  I'm thinking about replacing it with a Rack mount Dell R610  has
 anyone used that and has compatibility issues or successes?  I'll be using a
 RAID 5 setup and PERC version is up to 6i in this box, any issues with this
 PERC?  The specs indicate R610 will way outperform the old 2500.  The 2500
 currently supports mail (sendmail), web, db (pgsql and mysql), samba, etc.

 I Googled and found a bunch of somewhat older posts that showed some NIC
 issues and some PERC issues but it looked like most issues had been
 corrected by the beginning of 2011.  Does anyone have any recent
 duccess/failure stories?

 I'd probably be looking to run 8.2 RELEASE AMD or 9.0 AMD when it becomes
 release.

 Thanks

 Tim

I'm currently configuring FreeBSD 8.2 amd64 on an R610 with PERC H700
RAID controller. H700 uses the mfi(4) driver, I think that also goes
for PERC 6/I. Network uses the bce(4) driver. No real problems to
report.

One minor issue I ran into is that disabling serial ports in BIOS
causes FreeBSD to freeze when booting. The solution is simply to set
serial ports to be On without Console Redirection. You should also
leave Intel I/OAT disabled, since FreeBSD has no support for it.

- Max
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Re: shopping for a new server

2011-08-25 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:08:28 -0400
Tim Kellers articulated:

 Thank you Max, that sounds like good news so far.
 
  One minor issue I ran into is that disabling serial ports in BIOS
  causes FreeBSD to freeze when booting. The solution is simply to set
  serial ports to be On without Console Redirection. You should also
  leave Intel I/OAT disabled, since FreeBSD has no support for it.


Is anyone working on integrating support into FreeBSD? There is an
abundance of info available and drivers for both Windows (obviously)
and Linux.

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/network/IntelPRO/R167266/en/ioat.htm
http://www.intel.com/support/network/adapter/pro100/sb/CS-023725.htm

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Re: shopping for a new server

2011-08-25 Thread Outback Dingo
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:

 On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:08:28 -0400
 Tim Kellers articulated:

  Thank you Max, that sounds like good news so far.
  
   One minor issue I ran into is that disabling serial ports in BIOS
   causes FreeBSD to freeze when booting. The solution is simply to set
   serial ports to be On without Console Redirection. You should also
   leave Intel I/OAT disabled, since FreeBSD has no support for it.


 Is anyone working on integrating support into FreeBSD? There is an
 abundance of info available and drivers for both Windows (obviously)
 and Linux.

 http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/network/IntelPRO/R167266/en/ioat.htm
 http://www.intel.com/support/network/adapter/pro100/sb/CS-023725.htm


Just one more reason NOT to buy anything from Dell



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Re: shopping for a new server

2011-08-25 Thread Kevin Wilcox
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:45, Tim Kellers timot...@wallnet.com wrote:

 Dell 2500 from 10 years back is soon to be very dead in the machine room at
 work.  I'm thinking about replacing it with a Rack mount Dell R610  has
 anyone used that and has compatibility issues or successes?  I'll be using a
 RAID 5 setup and PERC version is up to 6i in this box, any issues with this
 PERC?  The specs indicate R610 will way outperform the old 2500.  The 2500
 currently supports mail (sendmail), web, db (pgsql and mysql), samba, etc.

I can't recommend the R610 highly enough. I have them as
firewall/routers and DNS servers and they are fantastic. 8.2-RELEASE
amd64.

As Maxim pointed out, they use the mfi and bce drivers...I've added
some Intel quad-port fibre NICs using the igb driver to the firewalls
and haven't had any issues.

My only suggestion is to pay attention to disk speed and RAID type if
you're going to do heavy database work. I have a 200GB PostGreSQL
database on RAID5 with 10K disks that crawls on data loads so I'm in
the process of verifying to RAID 1+0 performance (we're neither CPU-
nor memory-bound but the reported disk I/O via iostat is atrocious).
dmesg for any of our R610s available on request if you want specifics.

kmw
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Re: shopping for a new server

2011-08-25 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:38:26 -0400
Outback Dingo outbackdi...@gmail.com articulated:

 On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Jerry wrote:
 
  On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:08:28 -0400
  Tim Kellers articulated:
 
   Thank you Max, that sounds like good news so far.
   
One minor issue I ran into is that disabling serial ports in
BIOS causes FreeBSD to freeze when booting. The solution is
simply to set serial ports to be On without Console
Redirection. You should also leave Intel I/OAT disabled, since
FreeBSD has no support for it.
 
 
  Is anyone working on integrating support into FreeBSD? There is an
  abundance of info available and drivers for both Windows (obviously)
  and Linux.
 
  http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/network/IntelPRO/R167266/en/ioat.htm
  http://www.intel.com/support/network/adapter/pro100/sb/CS-023725.htm
 
 Just one more reason NOT to buy anything from Dell

I fail to see the reasoning behind your statement.

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Re: shopping for a new server

2011-08-25 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:
 On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:08:28 -0400
 Tim Kellers articulated:

 Thank you Max, that sounds like good news so far.
 
  One minor issue I ran into is that disabling serial ports in BIOS
  causes FreeBSD to freeze when booting. The solution is simply to set
  serial ports to be On without Console Redirection. You should also
  leave Intel I/OAT disabled, since FreeBSD has no support for it.


 Is anyone working on integrating support into FreeBSD? There is an
 abundance of info available and drivers for both Windows (obviously)
 and Linux.

 http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/network/IntelPRO/R167266/en/ioat.htm
 http://www.intel.com/support/network/adapter/pro100/sb/CS-023725.htm

Jack Vogel was working on this a number of years ago, but there wasn't
much interest at the time:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2006-August/011574.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2007-November/015911.html

Here's a more recent thread on the topic:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2011-June/035573.html

- Max
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