Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-25 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 21 Jul 2011, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:


On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 07:38:23AM -0600, Warren Block wrote:


Recent versions of VirtualBox claim to be able to run a 64-bit VM on a
32-bit host if the host CPU is 64-bit and has hardware virtualization
support: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=33940
(search for "64-bit guest")



So far I've only seen guest kernel panics when booting the kernel on an
E8400 i386 FreeBSD host.


I was using VB in a set-up like that up until a few weeks ago.


It works here now, too.  Apparently there's a difference between 
creating a 64-bit guest from the start, and creating a 32-bit guest and 
changing it to 64-bit afterwards.  Creating one that's 64-bit from the 
start works.

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Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-21 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 07:38:23AM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
 
> Recent versions of VirtualBox claim to be able to run a 64-bit VM on a 
> 32-bit host if the host CPU is 64-bit and has hardware virtualization 
> support: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=33940
> (search for "64-bit guest")
 
> So far I've only seen guest kernel panics when booting the kernel on an 
> E8400 i386 FreeBSD host.

I was using VB in a set-up like that up until a few weeks ago. I worked well I 
have to say but I couldn't get a full screen and in the end I installed 
dual-boot instead. This was with Win7(32bit) as the host, FreeBSD(64bit) as 
guest. I didn't try FreeBSD as host because I read that it's lacking USB 
support for the moment.
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Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-21 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Warren Block  wrote:

> Recent versions of VirtualBox claim to be able to run a 64-bit VM on a
> 32-bit host if the host CPU is 64-bit and has hardware virtualization
> support: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=33940
> (search for "64-bit guest")
>
> So far I've only seen guest kernel panics when booting the kernel on an
> E8400 i386 FreeBSD host.


That functionality has been around awhile, probably at least around the time
Vbox was introduced to FreeBSD ports.  I used to use 64 bit VM's on a 32 bit
FreeBSD host, but the only stipulation was only one 64 bit VM could be run
at a time.  I didn't have any stability issues.  This was in the early 3.X
series and I haven't tried recently.

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Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-21 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 01:18:15PM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote:
> 
> You have more than likely configured a 32bit virtual machine and not a 64bit
> one.
> Make that change to you're VM config and you will more than likely come
> right.
> 
> Is you're host operating system also 64bit?

It has been about five months, so I may misremember, but I think I had a
very similar problem earlier this year.  I had a 64 bit Win7 system (on a
64 bit processor, naturally -- Intel Core i5).  I installed VirtualBox
and set it up for a 64 bit FreeBSD install, then tried to install 64 bit
FreeBSD; I think it was 8.2, but I didn't keep careful notes that I can
check now.

It failed to work.  I think I got a "doesn't support long mode" error,
but again I am not 100% certain due to the passage of time and the fact I
have not really thought about it in the interim.

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Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-21 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 21 Jul 2011, Matthew Seaman wrote:


On 21/07/2011 09:48, Minipot Gregg wrote:

It installed fine but when I got to the boot menu and pressed [enter] x2 it
said CPU doesnt support longmode


This indicates trying to run an amd64 (64bit) kernel on an i386 (32bit)
processor.  That's a synthetic processor inside VirtualBox, so unlike
the real world, it's quite cheap to switch from one to the other...

If you go to Settings :: General for your VM, did you choose OS as 'BSD'
and Version as 'FreeBSD 64' ?

I'm assuming the host you're running VirtualBox on is 64bit capable...


Recent versions of VirtualBox claim to be able to run a 64-bit VM on a 
32-bit host if the host CPU is 64-bit and has hardware virtualization 
support: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=33940

(search for "64-bit guest")

So far I've only seen guest kernel panics when booting the kernel on an 
E8400 i386 FreeBSD host.

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Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-21 Thread Ross Cameron
Hi there Gregg

You have more than likely configured a 32bit virtual machine and not a 64bit
one.
Make that change to you're VM config and you will more than likely come
right.

Is you're host operating system also 64bit?



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Ross Cameron
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Phone : +27 (0)79 491-9954



On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Minipot Gregg wrote:

> I wanted to get freeBSD but I didn't wan't to dual boot so I used
> virtualbox
> 4.0 and downloaded the ISO of the freeBSD amd64 8.2.
> It installed fine but when I got to the boot menu and pressed [enter] x2 it
> said CPU doesnt support longmode and then come's up saying type '?' to show
> comands,
> or 'help' to show help.
> when I typed either of these commands it says '?' not found or 'help' not
> found whats wrong and what should I do?
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Re: virtualbox 4.0

2011-07-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 21/07/2011 09:48, Minipot Gregg wrote:
> It installed fine but when I got to the boot menu and pressed [enter] x2 it
> said CPU doesnt support longmode

This indicates trying to run an amd64 (64bit) kernel on an i386 (32bit)
processor.  That's a synthetic processor inside VirtualBox, so unlike
the real world, it's quite cheap to switch from one to the other...

If you go to Settings :: General for your VM, did you choose OS as 'BSD'
and Version as 'FreeBSD 64' ?

I'm assuming the host you're running VirtualBox on is 64bit capable...

Cheers,

Matthew

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