Recommendations for BSD Unix Toolbox: 1000+ Commands for FreeBSD BSD Books

2008-04-28 Thread loony

What are folks recommendations for the updated edition of BSD UNIX Toolbox: 
1000+ Commands for FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD (Paperback)by Christopher Negus 
(Author), Francois Caen (Author)?

Overall, Absolute FreeBSD boosted my confidence/competence but as my  only  
printed  Unix/Linux/BSD  resource although it is not the be one and end all  
resource to FreeBSD as I was hoping for, particularly when it comes to slightly 
more advanced topics as building a production LAMP server.  I have the budget 
for another book.

I don't have access to a print version so I can really check it out before I 
buy.  Has anyone found BSD UNIX useful, more than useless, or redundant?  Is it 
organized and indexed well?  Is a good read on the toilet or only when when 
your working on a box?  Hasn't some other sys admin documented their commands 
really well and shared them?  This recommendation would be for a FreeBSD novice 
user.  If they didn't know how to script and had a choice between BSD UNIX 
Toolbox and a book about how to script, what would they be better off getting?

On that note, does anyone have recommendations for a freebsd orientated 
beginners guide to scripting and using scripts to manage a freebsd box and 
common systems/services/daemons?

loonybomber


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Re: Recommendations for BSD Unix Toolbox: 1000+ Commands for FreeBSD BSD Books

2008-04-28 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 02:10:45PM -0700, loony wrote:
 
 Overall, Absolute FreeBSD boosted my confidence/competence but as my
 only  printed  Unix/Linux/BSD  resource although it is not the be one
 and end all  resource to FreeBSD as I was hoping for, particularly
 when it comes to slightly more advanced topics as building a
 production LAMP server.  I have the budget for another book. 

Configuring a ?AMP server is largely not really OS specific (apart from
things like firewalling). The AMP part should work on all UNIX-like
systems. Of course FreeBSD has ports, which makes installation of the
software easier.

Some searching on the internet is certain to give you lots of tutorials.

 This recommendation would be for a FreeBSD novice user.  If they
 didn't know how to script and had a choice between BSD UNIX Toolbox
 and a book about how to script, what would they be better off getting?

Depends on the persons other exerience. I switched to FreeBSD after
having used Slackware Linux for several years. With the Handbook and the
manual pages, I fealt at home straight away.

For novices, I would teach them system administration first, and
scripting later.

 On that note, does anyone have recommendations for a freebsd
 orientated beginners guide to scripting and using scripts to manage a
 freebsd box and common systems/services/daemons?

There is a lot of usefull documentation included with FreeBSD, starting
with the Handbook and FAQ. Look in /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books

Daemons belonging to the base system or available via ports come with a
control script in (/usr/local)/etc/rc.d. There is no need to write your
own, unless you want to contribute a new port, which is not really a job
for a novice. However, one can learn a lot by studying the already available
scripts and the infrastructure that supports them. 

I've also found the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide
[http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/] usefull, although one has to be carefull
of bash-specific features not supported by FreeBSD's /bin/sh.

Roland
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Re: Recommendations for BSD Unix Toolbox: 1000+ Commands for FreeBSD BSD Books

2008-04-28 Thread Jon Radel
loony wrote:
 
 What are folks recommendations for the updated edition of BSD UNIX Toolbox: 
 1000+ Commands for FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD (Paperback)by Christopher 
 Negus 
 (Author), Francois Caen (Author)?

Amazon.com started shipping pre-ordered copies only today, so I can't
imagine too many people have had a chance to form in-depth impressions
yet.  I'll try to say more after I actually have browsed my copy.  :-)

For the moment, I will strongly second Roland Smith's reminder that ?AMP
 is largely OS independent so long as you use a *n?x that
Apache/MySQL/etc. are well supported under.  You may well do better to
find a Use Apache to build a web site or (language of your choice)
with (database of your choice) book that suits your development
philosophy.

--Jon Radel


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