Re: Replacement hard drives, was: Re: Hard error??
Chuck Swiger wrote: Your drive should still be under warrantee, then...? To answer your question: I've been fairly happy with Seagate over the years, and Maxtor has been okay. Seagate's flagship products tend to do well, at least if you've got an open budget available-- one main fileserver I run has four Seagate ST336752LC drives (Cheetah X15 36LP?) in a RAID-1,0. They rock. Maxtor has sometimes seemed to have better price/performance for their normal drives, which is useful when one's budget it more constrained. Avoid Quantum at all costs. While there was an educational benefit to learning how to coax more life from one of those famous 105MB's with stiction, newer Quantum drives are better in the sense that they hold more data, and worse in that they tend to fail more abruptly and more permanently. IBM and Fujitsu have both been having quality control issues recently, although the IBM UltraStar lineup used to be pretty good at one point. I'd also like to give a big thumbs up to recent the Western Digital series of SE drives with 8MB of cache. WD's previous SCSI drives, like the 10K 18GB Vantage were good, too. As for laptop drives, well, what you want is a single platter drive with low power consumption, hence low heat-- ie, ones for ultra-thin/light laptops, something like what Sony's got in their VAIO 505's; expect a slower spindle speed, though. Even so, laptops tend to take a beating, and even good laptop drives seem to have about a 25% mortality rate after 3 years, give or take. Anyone know of a laptop that takes SCA (80-pin SCSI) drives? Failing that, be nice once SATA + individual IDE channels per drive + RAID hardware + SCSI layers (TCQ/command protocol/iSCSI/etc) becomes more common. SATA for the cabling alone will do a world of good. While I'm thinking about it, a platform-spanning PCI-X version of a SATA/RAID card would remind me favorably of Adaptec's 2940 (U/UW/OF/etc) series. -Chuck Disclaimer: Any Clutch fans out there? Last night's show-- in the hinterlands of Brooklyn, New York; Lamours-- is responsible; any opinions represented above I may or may not agree with once I finish recovering. Very good show, finished very late. :-) I'm wondering if whether or not the whole thing was due to my own misdoing. A buddy of mine scolded me after having explained the situation, as I apparently had messed things up (you know, the way newbies do). I guess I bit off more than I could chew when I started cvsupping and rebuilding the world. ;) Anyway, I formatted the drive and did a clean install, and it seems to be working fine now, for the time being at least. No hard errors yet. But still, thanks for the suggestions. In case it starts acting up again, I'll have this reference. -Henrik FreeBSD newbie and fanatic. _ MSN Messenger http://www.msn.no/messenger - Den korteste veien mellom deg og dine venner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Replacement hard drives, was: Re: Hard error??
the new Seagate 120gb seems to be real quiet and stable for me I cant even hear it running, they have a new motor design and probably is the best bang for the buck right now about $140.00 I had bad luck with quantum, maxtor and IBM and WD but Seagate seem to be very good for me right now. I think there is a website called drivereview.com or something that can better give you a hint. On Saturday 15 February 2003 02:45 pm, Chuck Swiger wrote: Henrik W Lund wrote: [ ... ] Anyway, it seems like I have just got to get myself a new drive. On that note, has anybody got any idea what I should go for? Any vendors whose drives do NOT cave in after half a year? ;) Your drive should still be under warrantee, then...? To answer your question: I've been fairly happy with Seagate over the years, and Maxtor has been okay. Seagate's flagship products tend to do well, at least if you've got an open budget available-- one main fileserver I run has four Seagate ST336752LC drives (Cheetah X15 36LP?) in a RAID-1,0. They rock. Maxtor has sometimes seemed to have better price/performance for their normal drives, which is useful when one's budget it more constrained. Avoid Quantum at all costs. While there was an educational benefit to learning how to coax more life from one of those famous 105MB's with stiction, newer Quantum drives are better in the sense that they hold more data, and worse in that they tend to fail more abruptly and more permanently. IBM and Fujitsu have both been having quality control issues recently, although the IBM UltraStar lineup used to be pretty good at one point. I'd also like to give a big thumbs up to recent the Western Digital series of SE drives with 8MB of cache. WD's previous SCSI drives, like the 10K 18GB Vantage were good, too. As for laptop drives, well, what you want is a single platter drive with low power consumption, hence low heat-- ie, ones for ultra-thin/light laptops, something like what Sony's got in their VAIO 505's; expect a slower spindle speed, though. Even so, laptops tend to take a beating, and even good laptop drives seem to have about a 25% mortality rate after 3 years, give or take. Anyone know of a laptop that takes SCA (80-pin SCSI) drives? Failing that, be nice once SATA + individual IDE channels per drive + RAID hardware + SCSI layers (TCQ/command protocol/iSCSI/etc) becomes more common. SATA for the cabling alone will do a world of good. While I'm thinking about it, a platform-spanning PCI-X version of a SATA/RAID card would remind me favorably of Adaptec's 2940 (U/UW/OF/etc) series. -Chuck Disclaimer: Any Clutch fans out there? Last night's show-- in the hinterlands of Brooklyn, New York; Lamours-- is responsible; any opinions represented above I may or may not agree with once I finish recovering. Very good show, finished very late. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Replacement hard drives, was: Re: Hard error??
Henrik W Lund wrote: [ ... ] Anyway, it seems like I have just got to get myself a new drive. On that note, has anybody got any idea what I should go for? Any vendors whose drives do NOT cave in after half a year? ;) Your drive should still be under warrantee, then...? To answer your question: I've been fairly happy with Seagate over the years, and Maxtor has been okay. Seagate's flagship products tend to do well, at least if you've got an open budget available-- one main fileserver I run has four Seagate ST336752LC drives (Cheetah X15 36LP?) in a RAID-1,0. They rock. Maxtor has sometimes seemed to have better price/performance for their normal drives, which is useful when one's budget it more constrained. Avoid Quantum at all costs. While there was an educational benefit to learning how to coax more life from one of those famous 105MB's with stiction, newer Quantum drives are better in the sense that they hold more data, and worse in that they tend to fail more abruptly and more permanently. IBM and Fujitsu have both been having quality control issues recently, although the IBM UltraStar lineup used to be pretty good at one point. I'd also like to give a big thumbs up to recent the Western Digital series of SE drives with 8MB of cache. WD's previous SCSI drives, like the 10K 18GB Vantage were good, too. As for laptop drives, well, what you want is a single platter drive with low power consumption, hence low heat-- ie, ones for ultra-thin/light laptops, something like what Sony's got in their VAIO 505's; expect a slower spindle speed, though. Even so, laptops tend to take a beating, and even good laptop drives seem to have about a 25% mortality rate after 3 years, give or take. Anyone know of a laptop that takes SCA (80-pin SCSI) drives? Failing that, be nice once SATA + individual IDE channels per drive + RAID hardware + SCSI layers (TCQ/command protocol/iSCSI/etc) becomes more common. SATA for the cabling alone will do a world of good. While I'm thinking about it, a platform-spanning PCI-X version of a SATA/RAID card would remind me favorably of Adaptec's 2940 (U/UW/OF/etc) series. -Chuck Disclaimer: Any Clutch fans out there? Last night's show-- in the hinterlands of Brooklyn, New York; Lamours-- is responsible; any opinions represented above I may or may not agree with once I finish recovering. Very good show, finished very late. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
