Re: Can't boot 7.2-RELEASE i386 or AMD64 on an Abit KV8 Pro motherboard with Sempron 3100+ CPU
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Kent Stewart kstew...@owt.com wrote: On Saturday 20 June 2009 11:00:45 am ericr wrote: Hi, As the subject says, I can't get the 7.2-RELEASE i386 CD to boot on a system that has: Abit KV8 Pro (K8T800P-8237-6A7L1A1BC-26) motherboard with the most recent BIOS - BIOS release 26 4/20/2007 ( http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NA ME=KV8+ProfMTYPE=Socket+754) An AMD Sempron 3100+ 1.8Ghz CPU 1 Gb RAM An ATI 1050 256mb AGP video card I think I have turned off everything ACPI related in the BIOS setup. When I boot the i386 ISO, the kernel boots to the point of probing the PCI bus and then hangs completely, even the keyboard is locked up. I've unplugged all the disks, so the only things in the system are the CD drive, the floppy drive, and the video card. I have turned off acpi at boot time, and when I boot the i386 ISO verbosely, the last few lines the kernel spews are: pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x8000c060 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x8000 (0x8000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=06] [hdr=80] is there (id=02821106) pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 pcib0: MPTable Host-PCI bridge pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: PCI Bus on pcib0 pci0: domain=0, physical bus=0 There's no PCI cards plugged in, just the AGP video card. When I try booting the AMD64 ISO, the boot loader runs, I get the boot menu, and regardless of what boot options I give the kernel, I get the message CPU doesn't support long mode and then I get the OK prompt. I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a h/w problem, it'll boot and install Fedora 11, Win2K, WinXP, and runs every DOS based diagnostic app I can find with no problems. Anyone have any suggestions, or should I file a PR? Did you follow the suggestion on the release announcement of using the other CDs and switching before you start the install. Yes. None of the FreeBSD kernels will boot on this system. Doesn't matter if I use the livefs disk, or the install disk, it only gets as far as described above, then hangs. - ericr ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can't boot 7.2-RELEASE i386 or AMD64 on an Abit KV8 Pro motherboard with Sempron 3100+ CPU
--- On Tue, 6/23/09, ericr erobi...@gmail.com wrote: From: ericr erobi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Can't boot 7.2-RELEASE i386 or AMD64 on an Abit KV8 Pro motherboard with Sempron 3100+ CPU To: Kent Stewart kstew...@owt.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 12:44 PM On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Kent Stewart kstew...@owt.com wrote: On Saturday 20 June 2009 11:00:45 am ericr wrote: Hi, As the subject says, I can't get the 7.2-RELEASE i386 CD to boot on a system that has: Abit KV8 Pro (K8T800P-8237-6A7L1A1BC-26) motherboard with the most recent BIOS - BIOS release 26 4/20/2007 ( http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NA ME=KV8+ProfMTYPE=Socket+754) An AMD Sempron 3100+ 1.8Ghz CPU 1 Gb RAM An ATI 1050 256mb AGP video card I think I have turned off everything ACPI related in the BIOS setup. When I boot the i386 ISO, the kernel boots to the point of probing the PCI bus and then hangs completely, even the keyboard is locked up. I've unplugged all the disks, so the only things in the system are the CD drive, the floppy drive, and the video card. I have turned off acpi at boot time, and when I boot the i386 ISO verbosely, the last few lines the kernel spews are: pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x8000c060 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x8000 (0x8000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=06] [hdr=80] is there (id=02821106) pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 pcib0: MPTable Host-PCI bridge pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: PCI Bus on pcib0 pci0: domain=0, physical bus=0 There's no PCI cards plugged in, just the AGP video card. When I try booting the AMD64 ISO, the boot loader runs, I get the boot menu, and regardless of what boot options I give the kernel, I get the message CPU doesn't support long mode and then I get the OK prompt. I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a h/w problem, it'll boot and install Fedora 11, Win2K, WinXP, and runs every DOS based diagnostic app I can find with no problems. Anyone have any suggestions, or should I file a PR? Did you follow the suggestion on the release announcement of using the other CDs and switching before you start the install. Yes. None of the FreeBSD kernels will boot on this system. Doesn't matter if I use the livefs disk, or the install disk, it only gets as far as described above, then hangs. - ericr I'll risk the flames, and say go back to basics. Make sure of the drive cabling and jumpers. I was reloading a home-grown nas the other day and the cable and jumpers gave me a bugger of a time. 7.2 would start to boot and then just hang. I unplugged everything except the harddrive on the primary and the optical drive on the secondary. After the OS was loaded, I was able move everything where I wanted. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can't boot 7.2-RELEASE i386 or AMD64 on an Abit KV8 Pro motherboard with Sempron 3100+ CPU
ericr wrote: On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Kent Stewart kstew...@owt.com wrote: On Saturday 20 June 2009 11:00:45 am ericr wrote: Hi, As the subject says, I can't get the 7.2-RELEASE i386 CD to boot on a system that has: Abit KV8 Pro (K8T800P-8237-6A7L1A1BC-26) motherboard with the most recent BIOS - BIOS release 26 4/20/2007 ( snip Anyone have any suggestions, or should I file a PR? Did you follow the suggestion on the release announcement of using the other CDs and switching before you start the install. Yes. None of the FreeBSD kernels will boot on this system. Doesn't matter if I use the livefs disk, or the install disk, it only gets as far as described above, then hangs. - ericrCan Try leaving it for a few minutes at the hang http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1705690+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2009/freebsd-questions/20090517.freebsd-questions I got mine going by putting the hard disk in another machine, installing fbsd on that and building a kernel with most stuff taken out, after which I could boot my motherboard with that hard disk. Once it was booting I kept putting drivers back into the kernel until I found what was stopping it (device sbp in my case). You can use an external usb caddy and another machine with capability to boot from usb to do the same thing. You might have to modify /etc/fstab. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Can't boot 7.2-RELEASE i386 or AMD64 on an Abit KV8 Pro motherboard with Sempron 3100+ CPU
Hi, As the subject says, I can't get the 7.2-RELEASE i386 CD to boot on a system that has: Abit KV8 Pro (K8T800P-8237-6A7L1A1BC-26) motherboard with the most recent BIOS - BIOS release 26 4/20/2007 ( http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=KV8+ProfMTYPE=Socket+754) An AMD Sempron 3100+ 1.8Ghz CPU 1 Gb RAM An ATI 1050 256mb AGP video card I think I have turned off everything ACPI related in the BIOS setup. When I boot the i386 ISO, the kernel boots to the point of probing the PCI bus and then hangs completely, even the keyboard is locked up. I've unplugged all the disks, so the only things in the system are the CD drive, the floppy drive, and the video card. I have turned off acpi at boot time, and when I boot the i386 ISO verbosely, the last few lines the kernel spews are: pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x8000c060 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x8000 (0x8000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=06] [hdr=80] is there (id=02821106) pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 pcib0: MPTable Host-PCI bridge pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: PCI Bus on pcib0 pci0: domain=0, physical bus=0 There's no PCI cards plugged in, just the AGP video card. When I try booting the AMD64 ISO, the boot loader runs, I get the boot menu, and regardless of what boot options I give the kernel, I get the message CPU doesn't support long mode and then I get the OK prompt. I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a h/w problem, it'll boot and install Fedora 11, Win2K, WinXP, and runs every DOS based diagnostic app I can find with no problems. Anyone have any suggestions, or should I file a PR? Thanks! - ericr ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can't boot 7.2-RELEASE i386 or AMD64 on an Abit KV8 Pro motherboard with Sempron 3100+ CPU
On Saturday 20 June 2009 11:00:45 am ericr wrote: Hi, As the subject says, I can't get the 7.2-RELEASE i386 CD to boot on a system that has: Abit KV8 Pro (K8T800P-8237-6A7L1A1BC-26) motherboard with the most recent BIOS - BIOS release 26 4/20/2007 ( http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NA ME=KV8+ProfMTYPE=Socket+754) An AMD Sempron 3100+ 1.8Ghz CPU 1 Gb RAM An ATI 1050 256mb AGP video card I think I have turned off everything ACPI related in the BIOS setup. When I boot the i386 ISO, the kernel boots to the point of probing the PCI bus and then hangs completely, even the keyboard is locked up. I've unplugged all the disks, so the only things in the system are the CD drive, the floppy drive, and the video card. I have turned off acpi at boot time, and when I boot the i386 ISO verbosely, the last few lines the kernel spews are: pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x8000c060 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x8000 (0x8000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=06] [hdr=80] is there (id=02821106) pcibios: BIOS version 2.10 pcib0: MPTable Host-PCI bridge pcibus 0 on motherboard pci0: PCI Bus on pcib0 pci0: domain=0, physical bus=0 There's no PCI cards plugged in, just the AGP video card. When I try booting the AMD64 ISO, the boot loader runs, I get the boot menu, and regardless of what boot options I give the kernel, I get the message CPU doesn't support long mode and then I get the OK prompt. I'm pretty sure it doesn't have a h/w problem, it'll boot and install Fedora 11, Win2K, WinXP, and runs every DOS based diagnostic app I can find with no problems. Anyone have any suggestions, or should I file a PR? Did you follow the suggestion on the release announcement of using the other CDs and switching before you start the install. Kent Thanks! - ericr ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD platform for AMD Sempron 64 2600 (socket 754, Palermo) Box ?
Dear ..., I would like to ask you to which platform belong this processor AMD Sempron 64 2600 (socket 754, Palermo) Box ? Is this the FreeBSD/amd64 Platform or FreeBSD/i386 Platform ??? So which installation should I use when I own a computer with this processor ? Thanks you very much Petr PS: Sorry, I cannot find it in documentation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD platform for AMD Sempron 64 2600 (socket 754, Palermo) Box ?
On Monday 07 November 2005 12:37, Petr Karasek wrote: Dear ..., I would like to ask you to which platform belong this processor AMD Sempron 64 2600 (socket 754, Palermo) Box ? Is this the FreeBSD/amd64 Platform or FreeBSD/i386 Platform Any Sempron will run as i386 Some socket 754 semprons are a form of amd64 with less cache and the 64-bit mode disabled, but since it's designated as AMD Sempron 64, I guess this isn't one of them, so it should be able to run amd64 as well. Some software will run quicker on amd64, but some ports don't yet work on it, for example wine and the Nvidia driver (for 3d-support). I use i386 myself. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Sempron CPUTYPE Co.
On 9/23/05, jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew P. wrote: On 9/22/05, jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew P. wrote: Hello! So I have a Sempron 2500+ CPU, one that supports SSE3. What should I place in my /etc/make.conf? I use ssh with X11Forward very often, so OpenSSL should be compiled to be as fast as it can be on this CPU. Here's a part of dmesg: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2500+ (1407.05-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x20fc2 Stepping = 2 Features=0x78bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR, PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV, PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2 Features2=0x1SSE3 AMD Features=0xe2500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+, b25,LM,3DNow+,3DNow I want to use SSE3, but I don't want to set CPUTYPE to nocona, cause that way compilers won't ever use AMD features. Is there a way to tell compilers to use every feature I've got? Thanks very much, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] man make.conf and man gcc You will be limited by the gcc version on FreeBSD. You can use gcc 4 for your apps, and all that SSE and 3DNow stuff is not currently allowed in the kernel. I remember ready, maybe on slashdot, where a man did very little work to do a native port of ssh to native amd64 code and got a hugh speed boost. Making sure you get a optimized version os ssh like what I described will make a much bigger difference than just adding amd64 as your cp type to make.conf. Jason I run FreeBSD/i386, not amd64. make.conf, gcc and cpp manpages tell you nothing about the subj. I roamed mailing lists for a few hours and settled on adding -march=pentium4 -msse3 to CFLAGS and COPTFLAGS. I didn't do any serious benchmarking, but the `top` output feels like sshd got 2-3% performance boost. Will try to recompile with -mfpmath=sse later. Also, I tried forwarding X11 over network without SSH, and some things kept lagging. My guess is network connection and my solution is a Gigabit switch; the funny thing is that I have Gb NICs in most of my PCs, but I still use a 100Mb switch. Hmm, that sucks. The K8 core in 32bit mode. I have heard of native 32 bit semprons, is that what you have? Well check this man page http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html#i386-and-x86_002d64-Options it will have everything, I hope, you need to know. Native 32-bit mode? All AMD Athlon64/Sempron/Opteron CPUs support 32-bit mode quite natively. As for Semprons - there are some called 64-bit enabled. I have one of those. Thanks very much for the link. I put some knobs into my make.conf file - but it's not just that easy, no. Some apps do not like the newer knobs like -msse3, so I have yet to come up with a better solution than to edit make.conf before each build. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Sempron CPUTYPE Co.
Andrew P. wrote: Hello! So I have a Sempron 2500+ CPU, one that supports SSE3. What should I place in my /etc/make.conf? I use ssh with X11Forward very often, so OpenSSL should be compiled to be as fast as it can be on this CPU. Here's a part of dmesg: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2500+ (1407.05-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x20fc2 Stepping = 2 Features=0x78bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR, PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV, PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2 Features2=0x1SSE3 AMD Features=0xe2500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+, b25,LM,3DNow+,3DNow I want to use SSE3, but I don't want to set CPUTYPE to nocona, cause that way compilers won't ever use AMD features. Is there a way to tell compilers to use every feature I've got? Thanks very much, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] man make.conf and man gcc You will be limited by the gcc version on FreeBSD. You can use gcc 4 for your apps, and all that SSE and 3DNow stuff is not currently allowed in the kernel. I remember ready, maybe on slashdot, where a man did very little work to do a native port of ssh to native amd64 code and got a hugh speed boost. Making sure you get a optimized version os ssh like what I described will make a much bigger difference than just adding amd64 as your cp type to make.conf. Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Sempron CPUTYPE Co.
On 9/22/05, jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew P. wrote: Hello! So I have a Sempron 2500+ CPU, one that supports SSE3. What should I place in my /etc/make.conf? I use ssh with X11Forward very often, so OpenSSL should be compiled to be as fast as it can be on this CPU. Here's a part of dmesg: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2500+ (1407.05-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x20fc2 Stepping = 2 Features=0x78bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR, PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV, PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2 Features2=0x1SSE3 AMD Features=0xe2500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+, b25,LM,3DNow+,3DNow I want to use SSE3, but I don't want to set CPUTYPE to nocona, cause that way compilers won't ever use AMD features. Is there a way to tell compilers to use every feature I've got? Thanks very much, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] man make.conf and man gcc You will be limited by the gcc version on FreeBSD. You can use gcc 4 for your apps, and all that SSE and 3DNow stuff is not currently allowed in the kernel. I remember ready, maybe on slashdot, where a man did very little work to do a native port of ssh to native amd64 code and got a hugh speed boost. Making sure you get a optimized version os ssh like what I described will make a much bigger difference than just adding amd64 as your cp type to make.conf. Jason I run FreeBSD/i386, not amd64. make.conf, gcc and cpp manpages tell you nothing about the subj. I roamed mailing lists for a few hours and settled on adding -march=pentium4 -msse3 to CFLAGS and COPTFLAGS. I didn't do any serious benchmarking, but the `top` output feels like sshd got 2-3% performance boost. Will try to recompile with -mfpmath=sse later. Also, I tried forwarding X11 over network without SSH, and some things kept lagging. My guess is network connection and my solution is a Gigabit switch; the funny thing is that I have Gb NICs in most of my PCs, but I still use a 100Mb switch. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Sempron CPUTYPE Co.
Andrew P. wrote: On 9/22/05, jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew P. wrote: Hello! So I have a Sempron 2500+ CPU, one that supports SSE3. What should I place in my /etc/make.conf? I use ssh with X11Forward very often, so OpenSSL should be compiled to be as fast as it can be on this CPU. Here's a part of dmesg: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2500+ (1407.05-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x20fc2 Stepping = 2 Features=0x78bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR, PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV, PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2 Features2=0x1SSE3 AMD Features=0xe2500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+, b25,LM,3DNow+,3DNow I want to use SSE3, but I don't want to set CPUTYPE to nocona, cause that way compilers won't ever use AMD features. Is there a way to tell compilers to use every feature I've got? Thanks very much, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] man make.conf and man gcc You will be limited by the gcc version on FreeBSD. You can use gcc 4 for your apps, and all that SSE and 3DNow stuff is not currently allowed in the kernel. I remember ready, maybe on slashdot, where a man did very little work to do a native port of ssh to native amd64 code and got a hugh speed boost. Making sure you get a optimized version os ssh like what I described will make a much bigger difference than just adding amd64 as your cp type to make.conf. Jason I run FreeBSD/i386, not amd64. make.conf, gcc and cpp manpages tell you nothing about the subj. I roamed mailing lists for a few hours and settled on adding -march=pentium4 -msse3 to CFLAGS and COPTFLAGS. I didn't do any serious benchmarking, but the `top` output feels like sshd got 2-3% performance boost. Will try to recompile with -mfpmath=sse later. Also, I tried forwarding X11 over network without SSH, and some things kept lagging. My guess is network connection and my solution is a Gigabit switch; the funny thing is that I have Gb NICs in most of my PCs, but I still use a 100Mb switch. Hmm, that sucks. The K8 core in 32bit mode. I have heard of native 32 bit semprons, is that what you have? Well check this man page http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html#i386-and-x86_002d64-Options it will have everything, I hope, you need to know. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Sempron CPUTYPE Co.
On 9/21/05, Josh Paetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 20 September 2005 15:21, Andrew P. wrote: Hello! So I have a Sempron 2500+ CPU, one that supports SSE3. What should I place in my /etc/make.conf? I use ssh with X11Forward very often, so OpenSSL should be compiled to be as fast as it can be on this CPU. Here's a part of dmesg: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2500+ (1407.05-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x20fc2 Stepping = 2 Features=0x78bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR, PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV, PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2 Features2=0x1SSE3 AMD Features=0xe2500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+, b25,LM,3DNow+,3DNow I want to use SSE3, but I don't want to set CPUTYPE to nocona, cause that way compilers won't ever use AMD features. Is there a way to tell compilers to use every feature I've got? Thanks very much, Andrew P. I don't know what options to put in /etc/make.conf, but I see that you are running your FSB @ 133mhz when it should be @ 166mhz. A Sempron 2500+ runs at 1.75ghz There are different Semprons marked 2500+. Mine is equipped with 256Kb L2 cache and runs and 1.4GHz. Any other suggestions? :) Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Sempron CPUTYPE Co.
On 9/21/05, Josh Paetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 20 September 2005 15:21, Andrew P. wrote: Hello! So I have a Sempron 2500+ CPU, one that supports SSE3. What should I place in my /etc/make.conf? I use ssh with X11Forward very often, so OpenSSL should be compiled to be as fast as it can be on this CPU. Here's a part of dmesg: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2500+ (1407.05-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x20fc2 Stepping = 2 Features=0x78bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR, PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV, PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2 Features2=0x1SSE3 AMD Features=0xe2500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+, b25,LM,3DNow+,3DNow I want to use SSE3, but I don't want to set CPUTYPE to nocona, cause that way compilers won't ever use AMD features. Is there a way to tell compilers to use every feature I've got? Thanks very much, Andrew P. I don't know what options to put in /etc/make.conf, but I see that you are running your FSB @ 133mhz when it should be @ 166mhz. A Sempron 2500+ runs at 1.75ghz Not necessarily. There are several 2500+ Sempron models that operate at different speeds, check out for example this one: http://www.computergate.com/products/item.cfm?prodcd=IP8AS25RB@ -- Dmitry Mityugov, St. Petersburg, Russia I ignore all messages with confidentiality statements We live less by imagination than despite it - Rockwell Kent, N by E ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AMD Sempron CPUTYPE Co.
Hello! So I have a Sempron 2500+ CPU, one that supports SSE3. What should I place in my /etc/make.conf? I use ssh with X11Forward very often, so OpenSSL should be compiled to be as fast as it can be on this CPU. Here's a part of dmesg: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2500+ (1407.05-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x20fc2 Stepping = 2 Features=0x78bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR, PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV, PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2 Features2=0x1SSE3 AMD Features=0xe2500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+, b25,LM,3DNow+,3DNow I want to use SSE3, but I don't want to set CPUTYPE to nocona, cause that way compilers won't ever use AMD features. Is there a way to tell compilers to use every feature I've got? Thanks very much, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD Sempron CPUTYPE Co.
On Tuesday 20 September 2005 15:21, Andrew P. wrote: Hello! So I have a Sempron 2500+ CPU, one that supports SSE3. What should I place in my /etc/make.conf? I use ssh with X11Forward very often, so OpenSSL should be compiled to be as fast as it can be on this CPU. Here's a part of dmesg: CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2500+ (1407.05-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = AuthenticAMD Id = 0x20fc2 Stepping = 2 Features=0x78bfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR, PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV, PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2 Features2=0x1SSE3 AMD Features=0xe2500800SYSCALL,NX,MMX+, b25,LM,3DNow+,3DNow I want to use SSE3, but I don't want to set CPUTYPE to nocona, cause that way compilers won't ever use AMD features. Is there a way to tell compilers to use every feature I've got? Thanks very much, Andrew P. I don't know what options to put in /etc/make.conf, but I see that you are running your FSB @ 133mhz when it should be @ 166mhz. A Sempron 2500+ runs at 1.75ghz -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
I just got a Sempron 754, will it run under FreeBSD 4.11 i386? I don't have time to reinstall the OS, so if the 754 doesn't run on i386 i'll swop the chip for a socket A. ... or will the 754 be substantially quicker that the equivalent speed Socket A? The machine is being used as a development server. Thanks for your advice Gareth ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
Gareth Bailey wrote: I just got a Sempron 754, will it run under FreeBSD 4.11 i386? Yes, sure I don't have time to reinstall the OS, so if the 754 doesn't run on i386 i'll swop the chip for a socket A. ... or will the 754 be substantially quicker that the equivalent speed Socket A? Not really, no The machine is being used as a development server. Thanks for your advice Gareth ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
Gareth Bailey wrote: Thanks. Can anyone else comment on the following points?: The 754 Sempron: - Will run in FreeBSD 4.11 i386? - Will not be faster than Sempron socket A? Thanks Gareth I think you forgot to cc this message to freebsd-questions. Anyways, to further comment on these issues: Sempron cores are identical in Socket A and Socket 754 versions. Both support only 32-bit instruction sets (i686 in terms of CPUTYPE and i386 in terms of MACHINE). Any x86 OS will run on Sempron/754 smoothly. Personally, I think it's a much better choice than Celeron D. Sempron/754 might be a little faster than it's Socket A version - but that's _only_ because of the chipsets for Socket 754 are more advanced than Socket A ones. I would generally recommend using Sempron/754, as you could upgrade to Athlon 64 later and FreeBSD/x64 then. On the other hand, s754 will be deprecated in a few years in favour of s939. Best wishes, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
Thanks for the info Andrew. Much appreciated, Gareth On Apr 4, 2005 3:33 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gareth Bailey wrote: Thanks. Can anyone else comment on the following points?: The 754 Sempron: - Will run in FreeBSD 4.11 i386? - Will not be faster than Sempron socket A? Thanks Gareth I think you forgot to cc this message to freebsd-questions. Anyways, to further comment on these issues: Sempron cores are identical in Socket A and Socket 754 versions. Both support only 32-bit instruction sets (i686 in terms of CPUTYPE and i386 in terms of MACHINE). Any x86 OS will run on Sempron/754 smoothly. Personally, I think it's a much better choice than Celeron D. Sempron/754 might be a little faster than it's Socket A version - but that's _only_ because of the chipsets for Socket 754 are more advanced than Socket A ones. I would generally recommend using Sempron/754, as you could upgrade to Athlon 64 later and FreeBSD/x64 then. On the other hand, s754 will be deprecated in a few years in favour of s939. Best wishes, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
On Apr 4, 2005 3:33 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gareth Bailey wrote: Thanks. Can anyone else comment on the following points?: The 754 Sempron: - Will run in FreeBSD 4.11 i386? - Will not be faster than Sempron socket A? Thanks Gareth I think you forgot to cc this message to freebsd-questions. Anyways, to further comment on these issues: Sempron cores are identical in Socket A and Socket 754 versions. Both support only 32-bit Are you sure? The s754 versions have an on die memory controller and a K8 core (although with disabled 64-bit mode), which should make it significantly faster then the K7 based Sempron on sA. instruction sets (i686 in terms of CPUTYPE and i386 in terms of MACHINE). Any x86 OS will run on Sempron/754 smoothly. Personally, I think it's a much better choice than Celeron D. Sempron/754 might be a little faster than it's Socket A version - but that's _only_ because of the chipsets for Socket 754 are more advanced than Socket A ones. I would generally recommend using Sempron/754, as you could upgrade to Athlon 64 later and FreeBSD/x64 then. On the other hand, s754 will be deprecated in a few years in favour of s939. Even for Sempron? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
Olaf van der Spek wrote: On Apr 4, 2005 3:33 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gareth Bailey wrote: Thanks. Can anyone else comment on the following points?: The 754 Sempron: - Will run in FreeBSD 4.11 i386? - Will not be faster than Sempron socket A? Sempron cores are identical in Socket A and Socket 754 versions. Both support only 32-bit Are you sure? The s754 versions have an on die memory controller and a K8 core (although with disabled 64-bit mode), which should make it significantly faster then the K7 based Sempron on sA. Yeah, it appears I got a wrong idea from some poor article. As a matter of fact, Sempron/sA is based on Barton core, while Sempron/s754 is a K8 sister. The latter has an on-chip memory controller and SSE2 instruction set supported. They are pretty same in all other aspects though, and I still suppose the perfomance margin is negligible. http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_11599_11604,00.html Sempron/754 might be a little faster than it's Socket A version - but that's _only_ because of the chipsets for Socket 754 are more advanced than Socket A ones. I would generally recommend using Sempron/754, as you could upgrade to Athlon 64 later and FreeBSD/x64 then. On the other hand, s754 will be deprecated in a few years in favour of s939. Even for Sempron? Yeah, it has been announced a few times, that Sempron/s939 will be available somewhen in 2005 as market requires: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_608,00.html Best wishes, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
On Apr 4, 2005 6:13 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure? The s754 versions have an on die memory controller and a K8 core (although with disabled 64-bit mode), which should make it significantly faster then the K7 based Sempron on sA. Yeah, it appears I got a wrong idea from some poor article. As a matter of fact, Sempron/sA is based on Barton core, while Sempron/s754 is a K8 sister. The latter has an on-chip memory controller and SSE2 instruction set supported. They are pretty same in all other aspects though, and I still suppose the perfomance margin is negligible. Why do you expect so much performance to be lost compared to the Athlon 64 s754? The Athlon 64 s754 is significantly faster than the Athlon XP. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sempron 754 run with FreeBSD i386?
Olaf van der Spek wrote: On Apr 4, 2005 6:13 PM, Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure? The s754 versions have an on die memory controller and a K8 core (although with disabled 64-bit mode), which should make it significantly faster then the K7 based Sempron on sA. Yeah, it appears I got a wrong idea from some poor article. As a matter of fact, Sempron/sA is based on Barton core, while Sempron/s754 is a K8 sister. The latter has an on-chip memory controller and SSE2 instruction set supported. They are pretty same in all other aspects though, and I still suppose the perfomance margin is negligible. Why do you expect so much performance to be lost compared to the Athlon 64 s754? The Athlon 64 s754 is significantly faster than the Athlon XP. I haven't seen any tests, yet I've seen Sempron/Socket-A in action and it was impressive. I also have Athlon 64 and Athlon XP pc's at home and I don't think K8 is so superior. In non-sse2 non-very-memory-intensive applications it performs better, but not turbo-charged. Besides, AMD is pricing Socket-A Semprons even higher than s754 versions. Considering the fact that s754 is clocked lower than sA of the same PR, it can be hard to determine the speed difference. Anyway, I really think there's nothing for us to argue about :) Gareth is staying with s754 and we should be glad for him :) Very best wishes, Andrew P. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sempron
Please tell me if I can install freebsd in a Sempron 2400 machine. Thanks, Renato ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sempron
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Dr Renato Barrios wrote: Please tell me if I can install freebsd in a Sempron 2400 machine. Thanks, Yes it will install fine Rus -- e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : t: 01635 281120 http://www.vaserv.com - Now Open http://www.storemypic.com - Free Image Hosting http://www.vpsforums.com - Talk for VPS users and Providers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
